On 9/10/2013 9:53 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/10/13 9:46 AM, skin a cat wrote:


With all due respect... I think you have it backwards. kevin or harry
make an inane comment, based on nothing, doing no research or thinking
at all... Kind of like holding a pointer for a cat with one hand, and
cooking breakfast with the other.. .You guys drop everything and spend
paragraph after paragraph or reasoning, hours of research and citing..
and they laugh and turn the pointer on again...

Actually, I doubt we "do our research" on Facebook, as you do.


You shouldn't bother doing research. You never come up with correct
assessments of what you read, anyway.

On 9/10/2013 9:22 AM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 09:14:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 05:19:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 7:42:01 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...



On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 20:14:46 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



It is typical that abused women don't press charges the first few times

they are abused. It usually takes a hell of a beating for this to

happen. Well-documented in "the literature."



Nobody ever alleged that Shellie was ever touched but don't let the

facts get in the way of a good rant.

He was in a scuffle with the father in law according to the 9-11 call.

It is yet to be seen how that started.



As I said, I really do not care. Lock them all up as far as I am

concerned. If this was anyone but Zimmerman nobody would care.

I bet the Orange County cops got 2 dozen calls that were virtually the

same deal today.

Weren't you here talking about a speeding ticket a week ago?



You seem to be the one who is obsessed



YOU are the one obsessed with making Zimmerman out to be an angel.



"He punched my dad in the nose my dad has a mark on the nose. I saw his

glasses were on the floor," Shellie Zimmerman said in the call. "He then

accosted my father then took my iPad out of my hands. He then smashed it

and cut it with a pocketknife, and there is a Lake Mary city worker

across the street that I believe saw all of it."

She also said on the call that he had his hand on his gun. It now turns she never saw his gun.

"Hours later, Shellie Zimmerman changed her story and said she never saw a firearm, said Bracknell. For the time being, "domestic violence can't be invoked because she has changed her story and says she didn't see a firearm," Bracknell said."

She's a liar. Z's no angel, but Ms. Z is coming across as pretty loopy.

Whoops. There goes the firearm bull****.

Yup, she's a liar.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Amazing! You pigs are so hypnotized by FOX that you defend a person who
has in the past, and now again abused his wife.

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Where does he come up with this stuff? He's as outrageous as Harry The
Krause?

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:02:23 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

Cite that he actually "abused his wife", Kevin.



George Zimmerman was taken into custody Monday after what the police are
calling a domestic altercation with his wife and her father at a home in
Lake Mary, Florida.?

All three were detained, and released, without charges. Not arrested, and the police state that CDV is off the table. So, no cite there.


AND it's not the first time, it happened also in 2005, so there is a
pattern of abuse.

Actually 2005 was an ex-fiancé, and was mutual restraining orders. So no wife, no abuse.

You'd do better if you could stick to facts.

Not that any of this matters to the FOX sheeple. They
will still contend that Zimmerman is just a great guy.

They're doing that on FOX? Do tell!

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 10:50:14 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/10/2013 9:22 AM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 09:14:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 05:19:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 7:42:01 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...



On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 20:14:46 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



It is typical that abused women don't press charges the first few times

they are abused. It usually takes a hell of a beating for this to

happen. Well-documented in "the literature."



Nobody ever alleged that Shellie was ever touched but don't let the

facts get in the way of a good rant.

He was in a scuffle with the father in law according to the 9-11 call.

It is yet to be seen how that started.



As I said, I really do not care. Lock them all up as far as I am

concerned. If this was anyone but Zimmerman nobody would care.

I bet the Orange County cops got 2 dozen calls that were virtually the

same deal today.

Weren't you here talking about a speeding ticket a week ago?



You seem to be the one who is obsessed



YOU are the one obsessed with making Zimmerman out to be an angel.



"He punched my dad in the nose my dad has a mark on the nose. I saw his

glasses were on the floor," Shellie Zimmerman said in the call. "He then

accosted my father then took my iPad out of my hands. He then smashed it

and cut it with a pocketknife, and there is a Lake Mary city worker

across the street that I believe saw all of it."

She also said on the call that he had his hand on his gun. It now turns she never saw his gun.

"Hours later, Shellie Zimmerman changed her story and said she never saw a firearm, said Bracknell. For the time being, "domestic violence can't be invoked because she has changed her story and says she didn't see a firearm," Bracknell said."

She's a liar. Z's no angel, but Ms. Z is coming across as pretty loopy.

Whoops. There goes the firearm bull****.

Yup, she's a liar.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Amazing! You pigs are so hypnotized by FOX that you defend a person who
has in the past, and now again abused his wife.

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Where does he come up with this stuff? He's as outrageous as Harry The
Krause?

As often as he 'quotes' FOX, he must spend a hell of a lot of time there. That can not be good for
his serenity.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On 9/10/2013 10:48 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 9/10/2013 9:53 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/10/13 9:46 AM, skin a cat wrote:


With all due respect... I think you have it backwards. kevin or harry
make an inane comment, based on nothing, doing no research or thinking
at all... Kind of like holding a pointer for a cat with one hand, and
cooking breakfast with the other.. .You guys drop everything and spend
paragraph after paragraph or reasoning, hours of research and citing..
and they laugh and turn the pointer on again...

Actually, I doubt we "do our research" on Facebook, as you do.


You shouldn't bother doing research. You never come up with correct
assessments of what you read, anyway.


That whole "FB" thing they do is just their way of deflecting... I do my
research elsewhere, I just happen to see imaginative memes on FB that go
along with my conclusions, *OR* I just find funny or curious....

In article ,
says...

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:02:23 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

Cite that he actually "abused his wife", Kevin.



George Zimmerman was taken into custody Monday after what the police are
calling a domestic altercation with his wife and her father at a home in
Lake Mary, Florida.?

All three were detained, and released, without charges. Not arrested, and the police state that CDV is off the table. So, no cite there.

No they weren't. Only Zimmerman himself was detained.


AND it's not the first time, it happened also in 2005, so there is a
pattern of abuse.

Actually 2005 was an ex-fiancé, and was mutual restraining orders. So no wife, no abuse.

Oh, so abusing a fiancé is okay, got it.

You'd do better if you could stick to facts.

Not that any of this matters to the FOX sheeple. They
will still contend that Zimmerman is just a great guy.

They're doing that on FOX? Do tell!

Again, I find it absolutely appalling that anyone is so narrow minded
that they find his type of behavior to another woman just dandy.

In article ,
says...

On 9/10/2013 10:48 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 9/10/2013 9:53 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/10/13 9:46 AM, skin a cat wrote:


With all due respect... I think you have it backwards. kevin or harry
make an inane comment, based on nothing, doing no research or thinking
at all... Kind of like holding a pointer for a cat with one hand, and
cooking breakfast with the other.. .You guys drop everything and spend
paragraph after paragraph or reasoning, hours of research and citing..
and they laugh and turn the pointer on again...

Actually, I doubt we "do our research" on Facebook, as you do.


You shouldn't bother doing research. You never come up with correct
assessments of what you read, anyway.


That whole "FB" thing they do is just their way of deflecting... I do my
research elsewhere, I just happen to see imaginative memes on FB that go
along with my conclusions, *OR* I just find funny or curious....

Everything you've posted a "research" lately has come from facebook.

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:38:18 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:02:23 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

Cite that he actually "abused his wife", Kevin.



George Zimmerman was taken into custody Monday after what the police are
calling a domestic altercation with his wife and her father at a home in
Lake Mary, Florida.?

All three were detained, and released, without charges. Not arrested, and the police state that CDV is off the table. So, no cite there.

No they weren't. Only Zimmerman himself was detained.


AND it's not the first time, it happened also in 2005, so there is a
pattern of abuse.

Actually 2005 was an ex-fiancé, and was mutual restraining orders. So no wife, no abuse.

Oh, so abusing a fiancé is okay, got it.

You'd do better if you could stick to facts.

Not that any of this matters to the FOX sheeple. They
will still contend that Zimmerman is just a great guy.

They're doing that on FOX? Do tell!

Again, I find it absolutely appalling that anyone is so narrow minded
that they find his type of behavior to another woman just dandy.


What type of behavior? 'Domestic altercation' could be a loud argument.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:38:18 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...



On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:02:23 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,



Cite that he actually "abused his wife", Kevin.


George Zimmerman was taken into custody Monday after what the police are
calling a domestic altercation with his wife and her father at a home in
Lake Mary, Florida.?


All three were detained, and released, without charges. Not arrested, and the police state that CDV is off the table. So, no cite there.

No they weren't. Only Zimmerman himself was detained.

One of the early stories stated all three were detained. Meh.

AND it's not the first time, it happened also in 2005, so there is a
pattern of abuse.

Actually 2005 was an ex-fiancé, and was mutual restraining orders. So no wife, no abuse.


Oh, so abusing a fiancé is okay, got it.

Where on earth would you get that idea, Kevin?

You'd do better if you could stick to facts.

Again, I find it absolutely appalling that anyone is so narrow minded
that they find his type of behavior to another woman just dandy.

Again, you're making stuff up.

Fact is, he's never been arrested for, charged with, and convicted of CDV (wife abuse). Just like Travon and his gun and drug dealing and petty theft, you can't state it as fact if he hasn't been charged with it and convicted. You have no cite for your BS statement.

Have a nice day.

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 12:35:45 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:

What type of behavior? 'Domestic altercation' could be a loud argument.

John (Gun Nut) H.

You see the latest story? Now some of the news orgs are saying that he had another woman with him in his car and that set Shellie off. She was the aggressor.

"As the stomach turns."