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On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 05:19:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 7:42:01 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
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On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 20:14:46 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



It is typical that abused women don't press charges the first few times

they are abused. It usually takes a hell of a beating for this to

happen. Well-documented in "the literature."



Nobody ever alleged that Shellie was ever touched but don't let the

facts get in the way of a good rant.

He was in a scuffle with the father in law according to the 9-11 call.

It is yet to be seen how that started.



As I said, I really do not care. Lock them all up as far as I am

concerned. If this was anyone but Zimmerman nobody would care.

I bet the Orange County cops got 2 dozen calls that were virtually the

same deal today.

Weren't you here talking about a speeding ticket a week ago?



You seem to be the one who is obsessed



YOU are the one obsessed with making Zimmerman out to be an angel.



"He punched my dad in the nose my dad has a mark on the nose. I saw his

glasses were on the floor," Shellie Zimmerman said in the call. "He then

accosted my father then took my iPad out of my hands. He then smashed it

and cut it with a pocketknife, and there is a Lake Mary city worker

across the street that I believe saw all of it."

She also said on the call that he had his hand on his gun. It now turns she never saw his gun.

"Hours later, Shellie Zimmerman changed her story and said she never saw a firearm, said Bracknell. For the time being, "domestic violence can't be invoked because she has changed her story and says she didn't see a firearm," Bracknell said."

She's a liar. Z's no angel, but Ms. Z is coming across as pretty loopy.

Whoops. There goes the firearm bull****.

Yup, she's a liar.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Amazing! You pigs are so hypnotized by FOX that you defend a person who
has in the past, and now again abused his wife.

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 09:14:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 05:19:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 7:42:01 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...



On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 20:14:46 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



It is typical that abused women don't press charges the first few times

they are abused. It usually takes a hell of a beating for this to

happen. Well-documented in "the literature."



Nobody ever alleged that Shellie was ever touched but don't let the

facts get in the way of a good rant.

He was in a scuffle with the father in law according to the 9-11 call.

It is yet to be seen how that started.



As I said, I really do not care. Lock them all up as far as I am

concerned. If this was anyone but Zimmerman nobody would care.

I bet the Orange County cops got 2 dozen calls that were virtually the

same deal today.

Weren't you here talking about a speeding ticket a week ago?



You seem to be the one who is obsessed



YOU are the one obsessed with making Zimmerman out to be an angel.



"He punched my dad in the nose my dad has a mark on the nose. I saw his

glasses were on the floor," Shellie Zimmerman said in the call. "He then

accosted my father then took my iPad out of my hands. He then smashed it

and cut it with a pocketknife, and there is a Lake Mary city worker

across the street that I believe saw all of it."

She also said on the call that he had his hand on his gun. It now turns she never saw his gun.

"Hours later, Shellie Zimmerman changed her story and said she never saw a firearm, said Bracknell. For the time being, "domestic violence can't be invoked because she has changed her story and says she didn't see a firearm," Bracknell said."

She's a liar. Z's no angel, but Ms. Z is coming across as pretty loopy.

Whoops. There goes the firearm bull****.

Yup, she's a liar.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Amazing! You pigs are so hypnotized by FOX that you defend a person who
has in the past, and now again abused his wife.

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.
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Hope you're having a great day!

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On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 09:14:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 05:19:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 7:42:01 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...



On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 20:14:46 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



It is typical that abused women don't press charges the first few times

they are abused. It usually takes a hell of a beating for this to

happen. Well-documented in "the literature."



Nobody ever alleged that Shellie was ever touched but don't let the

facts get in the way of a good rant.

He was in a scuffle with the father in law according to the 9-11 call.

It is yet to be seen how that started.



As I said, I really do not care. Lock them all up as far as I am

concerned. If this was anyone but Zimmerman nobody would care.

I bet the Orange County cops got 2 dozen calls that were virtually the

same deal today.

Weren't you here talking about a speeding ticket a week ago?



You seem to be the one who is obsessed



YOU are the one obsessed with making Zimmerman out to be an angel.



"He punched my dad in the nose my dad has a mark on the nose. I saw his

glasses were on the floor," Shellie Zimmerman said in the call. "He then

accosted my father then took my iPad out of my hands. He then smashed it

and cut it with a pocketknife, and there is a Lake Mary city worker

across the street that I believe saw all of it."

She also said on the call that he had his hand on his gun. It now turns she never saw his gun.

"Hours later, Shellie Zimmerman changed her story and said she never saw a firearm, said Bracknell. For the time being, "domestic violence can't be invoked because she has changed her story and says she didn't see a firearm," Bracknell said."

She's a liar. Z's no angel, but Ms. Z is coming across as pretty loopy.

Whoops. There goes the firearm bull****.

Yup, she's a liar.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Amazing! You pigs are so hypnotized by FOX that you defend a person who
has in the past, and now again abused his wife.

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

REC.BOATS.

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:26:03 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 09:14:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:



In article ,

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On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 05:19:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:



On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 7:42:01 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,



says...







On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 20:14:46 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:







It is typical that abused women don't press charges the first few times



they are abused. It usually takes a hell of a beating for this to



happen. Well-documented in "the literature."







Nobody ever alleged that Shellie was ever touched but don't let the



facts get in the way of a good rant.



He was in a scuffle with the father in law according to the 9-11 call.



It is yet to be seen how that started.







As I said, I really do not care. Lock them all up as far as I am



concerned. If this was anyone but Zimmerman nobody would care.



I bet the Orange County cops got 2 dozen calls that were virtually the



same deal today.



Weren't you here talking about a speeding ticket a week ago?







You seem to be the one who is obsessed







YOU are the one obsessed with making Zimmerman out to be an angel.







"He punched my dad in the nose my dad has a mark on the nose. I saw his



glasses were on the floor," Shellie Zimmerman said in the call. "He then



accosted my father then took my iPad out of my hands. He then smashed it



and cut it with a pocketknife, and there is a Lake Mary city worker



across the street that I believe saw all of it."



She also said on the call that he had his hand on his gun. It now turns she never saw his gun.



"Hours later, Shellie Zimmerman changed her story and said she never saw a firearm, said Bracknell. For the time being, "domestic violence can't be invoked because she has changed her story and says she didn't see a firearm," Bracknell said."



She's a liar. Z's no angel, but Ms. Z is coming across as pretty loopy.



Whoops. There goes the firearm bull****.



Yup, she's a liar.



John (Gun Nut) H.



Amazing! You pigs are so hypnotized by FOX that you defend a person who

has in the past, and now again abused his wife.



Cite?



John (Gun Nut) H.



REC.BOATS.

Cite that he actually "abused his wife", Kevin.

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On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:26:03 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

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On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 09:14:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:



In article ,

says...



On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 05:19:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:



On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 7:42:01 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,



says...







On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 20:14:46 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:







It is typical that abused women don't press charges the first few times



they are abused. It usually takes a hell of a beating for this to



happen. Well-documented in "the literature."







Nobody ever alleged that Shellie was ever touched but don't let the



facts get in the way of a good rant.



He was in a scuffle with the father in law according to the 9-11 call.



It is yet to be seen how that started.







As I said, I really do not care. Lock them all up as far as I am



concerned. If this was anyone but Zimmerman nobody would care.



I bet the Orange County cops got 2 dozen calls that were virtually the



same deal today.



Weren't you here talking about a speeding ticket a week ago?







You seem to be the one who is obsessed







YOU are the one obsessed with making Zimmerman out to be an angel.







"He punched my dad in the nose my dad has a mark on the nose. I saw his



glasses were on the floor," Shellie Zimmerman said in the call. "He then



accosted my father then took my iPad out of my hands. He then smashed it



and cut it with a pocketknife, and there is a Lake Mary city worker



across the street that I believe saw all of it."



She also said on the call that he had his hand on his gun. It now turns she never saw his gun.



"Hours later, Shellie Zimmerman changed her story and said she never saw a firearm, said Bracknell. For the time being, "domestic violence can't be invoked because she has changed her story and says she didn't see a firearm," Bracknell said."



She's a liar. Z's no angel, but Ms. Z is coming across as pretty loopy.



Whoops. There goes the firearm bull****.



Yup, she's a liar.



John (Gun Nut) H.



Amazing! You pigs are so hypnotized by FOX that you defend a person who

has in the past, and now again abused his wife.



Cite?



John (Gun Nut) H.



REC.BOATS.

Cite that he actually "abused his wife", Kevin.

George Zimmerman was taken into custody Monday after what the police are
calling a domestic altercation with his wife and her father at a home in
Lake Mary, Florida.?

AND it's not the first time, it happened also in 2005, so there is a
pattern of abuse. Not that any of this matters to the FOX sheeple. They
will still contend that Zimmerman is just a great guy.

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:02:23 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
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Cite that he actually "abused his wife", Kevin.



George Zimmerman was taken into custody Monday after what the police are
calling a domestic altercation with his wife and her father at a home in
Lake Mary, Florida.?

All three were detained, and released, without charges. Not arrested, and the police state that CDV is off the table. So, no cite there.


AND it's not the first time, it happened also in 2005, so there is a
pattern of abuse.

Actually 2005 was an ex-fiancé, and was mutual restraining orders. So no wife, no abuse.

You'd do better if you could stick to facts.

Not that any of this matters to the FOX sheeple. They
will still contend that Zimmerman is just a great guy.

They're doing that on FOX? Do tell!

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On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:02:23 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

Cite that he actually "abused his wife", Kevin.



George Zimmerman was taken into custody Monday after what the police are
calling a domestic altercation with his wife and her father at a home in
Lake Mary, Florida.?

All three were detained, and released, without charges. Not arrested, and the police state that CDV is off the table. So, no cite there.

No they weren't. Only Zimmerman himself was detained.


AND it's not the first time, it happened also in 2005, so there is a
pattern of abuse.

Actually 2005 was an ex-fiancé, and was mutual restraining orders. So no wife, no abuse.

Oh, so abusing a fiancé is okay, got it.

You'd do better if you could stick to facts.

Not that any of this matters to the FOX sheeple. They
will still contend that Zimmerman is just a great guy.

They're doing that on FOX? Do tell!

Again, I find it absolutely appalling that anyone is so narrow minded
that they find his type of behavior to another woman just dandy.

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On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 10:02:23 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


Cite that he actually "abused his wife", Kevin.

George Zimmerman was taken into custody Monday after what the police are
calling a domestic altercation with his wife and her father at a home in
Lake Mary, Florida.?

AND it's not the first time, it happened also in 2005, so there is a
pattern of abuse. Not that any of this matters to the FOX sheeple. They
will still contend that Zimmerman is just a great guy.

Unfortunately for Shellie, they were on camera this time and all that
happened was he broke her Ipad.
That is why they recanted. She certainly did not want to swear out a
complaint that was another lie since she is already on probation for
perjury.

I don't really care any more about the battling Zimmermans.
I don't watch the Kardasians or those arguing motorcycle guys either.
I have a life, you should get one. It is pretty cool.

Wait, I'm not the one who comes here and defends Zimmerman and his
boorish behavior. And I didn't know who the hell the "Kardasians" were
until I just looked them up! I know nothing of "arguing motorcycle
guys". I think maybe you should turn off the T.V. Watching that bull****
isn't "a life".

On 9/10/13 7:33 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 13:07:27 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 10:02:23 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


Cite that he actually "abused his wife", Kevin.

George Zimmerman was taken into custody Monday after what the police are
calling a domestic altercation with his wife and her father at a home in
Lake Mary, Florida.?

AND it's not the first time, it happened also in 2005, so there is a
pattern of abuse. Not that any of this matters to the FOX sheeple. They
will still contend that Zimmerman is just a great guy.

Unfortunately for Shellie, they were on camera this time and all that
happened was he broke her Ipad.
That is why they recanted. She certainly did not want to swear out a
complaint that was another lie since she is already on probation for
perjury.

I don't really care any more about the battling Zimmermans.
I don't watch the Kardasians or those arguing motorcycle guys either.
I have a life, you should get one. It is pretty cool.

Wait, I'm not the one who comes here and defends Zimmerman and his
boorish behavior. And I didn't know who the hell the "Kardasians" were
until I just looked them up! I know nothing of "arguing motorcycle
guys". I think maybe you should turn off the T.V. Watching that bull****
isn't "a life".
Kardashians? You must not have ever been to a grocery store. The short
answer, they appear to be famous for being famous, Other than that I
don't care.
The feuding guys are on Discovery/History and you can't watch
Mythbusters without being bombarded by promos about feuding bike
builders, bail bondsmen, truckers and fishermen.
I don't care about them and I don't care about the battling Zimmermans


My only issue was the self defense case.

Ignore what you think happened in Sanford

Can a guy, watching a suspicious person, waiting on the police, defend
himself if that person attacks him?

Should race matter at all?


Interesting...today the Sanford police who cuffed and searched Zimmerman
claimed he did not have a gun on him, but his lawyer from the trial was
there and interviewed, and said Zimmerman had his gun.

The police also said they did not search Zimmerman's car.

D'oh.

I still predict Zimmerman is going to come to a violent end, and
probably soon. Maybe a woman will take him out.

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On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 13:07:27 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 10:02:23 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


Cite that he actually "abused his wife", Kevin.

George Zimmerman was taken into custody Monday after what the police are
calling a domestic altercation with his wife and her father at a home in
Lake Mary, Florida.?

AND it's not the first time, it happened also in 2005, so there is a
pattern of abuse. Not that any of this matters to the FOX sheeple. They
will still contend that Zimmerman is just a great guy.

Unfortunately for Shellie, they were on camera this time and all that
happened was he broke her Ipad.
That is why they recanted. She certainly did not want to swear out a
complaint that was another lie since she is already on probation for
perjury.

I don't really care any more about the battling Zimmermans.
I don't watch the Kardasians or those arguing motorcycle guys either.
I have a life, you should get one. It is pretty cool.

Wait, I'm not the one who comes here and defends Zimmerman and his
boorish behavior. And I didn't know who the hell the "Kardasians" were
until I just looked them up! I know nothing of "arguing motorcycle
guys". I think maybe you should turn off the T.V. Watching that bull****
isn't "a life".
Kardashians? You must not have ever been to a grocery store. The short
answer, they appear to be famous for being famous, Other than that I
don't care.
The feuding guys are on Discovery/History and you can't watch
Mythbusters without being bombarded by promos about feuding bike
builders, bail bondsmen, truckers and fishermen.
I don't care about them and I don't care about the battling Zimmermans


My only issue was the self defense case.

Ignore what you think happened in Sanford

Can a guy, watching a suspicious person, waiting on the police, defend
himself if that person attacks him?

Yes, if that is truly what happened. But the funny thing is that you
don't think that if Zimmerman confronted Martin, that he should have
that same luxury.

Should race matter at all?

Absolutely not.