To John, BAR, Greg, Richard, FlaJim, and ....
 

On 9/10/2013 2:37 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/10/13 2:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:36:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Because I was busy.

That is why we need a draft.


We had a draft back then. I wasn't drafted. I went to college and was
classified 2-S. After college, I was "available," but I never got a
letter from the draft board.

Why do we need a draft now?

To cover for O'Bama's wars. I'm sure volunteerism is down the past few
years.

To John, BAR, Greg, Richard, FlaJim, and ....
 

In article , says...

On 9/10/13 8:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...


My issues generally aren't with the individuals who were drafted or
enlisted and sent over to Vietnam. I do have issues, though, with
right-wingers who think there was something wonderful and honorable
about going over there to kill SE Asians because they were somehow being
"patriotic." That's a nice rationalization, but Vietnam wasn't Germany,
Japan, or even Italy.

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I don't know a single person .... veteran or non veteran ....
right-winger or left-winger who thinks is was something wonderful and
honorable about killing anyone period. If you served in a war zone, it
was a question of kill or be killed. Your views and claims on the
subject are typical of someone who has little knowledge or experience
with what the military is all about, other than what you read in books.

And again, you demonstrate *my* point that you continue to miss. You
said this:

" This was in the early 1960s, and there simply wasn't much going on
militarily for us anywhere, at least not much that was talked about on
the Nightly News."

Harry, deciding to serve your country has little to do with "what's in
it for me?"




Draftees "served" because they were drafted. Many but not all of those
who enlisted signed up because they had nothing else to do. That was the
case of the one guy I knew from high school who enlisted. He spent his
three years of high school fooling around and I suppose decided he
couldn't make it at college or in a disciplined apprenticeship program
to learn a skilled trade. So he joined the army.

There was a lot of the "my country right or wrong" bull**** in the mid
to late 1960's...I think Vietnam helped most thinking Americans get over
that kind of absurdity.

I volunteered to be a program officer for an agricultural program in
Vietnam and trained for it and when I got there, I found out the program
had been cancelled. So I was given an opportunity to volunteer for other
civilian duty over there and I took it. There are many ways to "serve"
one's country without wearing a uniform and patting yourself on the back
for the rest of your life because you did so. These days, and for
decades, I have been more impressed with the service of teachers,
nurses, social workers, anti-poverty workers, firemen, et cetera, than I
have been by the service of soldiers, because the civilians are working
every day to improve the lives of Americans who need help.

So my working for the USDA qualifies for service to my country, according to you?

To John, BAR, Greg, Richard, FlaJim, and ....
 

In article , says...

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 09:03:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Apparently Lieutenant William Calley didn't have flat feet, so he was
qualified to be an officer. Ergo, the military did take just about
anybody who enlisted or who it drafted.

He was a college man.

It must have been his fine Liberal Arts education at an institute of higher learning that
caused him to flip out when put into a stressful situaiton.

To John, BAR, Greg, Richard, FlaJim, and ....
 

In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On 9/10/13 12:15 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 06:58:04 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:


Because I was busy. I was in college for much of the 1960's,
full-time,
pursuing a B.A. and an M.A., and for three of those same years,
working
full-time at a newspaper.

"I had other priorities in the '60s than military service."

-- Dick Cheney

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Are you suggesting that Harry and Dick Cheney are birds of a feather?
That ought to go over big.

Opposites attract.....

To John, BAR, Greg, Richard, FlaJim, and ....
 

In article , says...

On 9/10/13 2:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:36:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Because I was busy.

That is why we need a draft.


We had a draft back then. I wasn't drafted. I went to college and was
classified 2-S. After college, I was "available," but I never got a
letter from the draft board.

Why do we need a draft now?

You could have volunteered.

To John, BAR, Greg, Richard, FlaJim, and ....
 

On Monday, September 9, 2013 7:38:20 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:

Harry, you should have taken advantage of it while you could have. I enjoyed my stint.

Harry is a proven coward. Unwilling to greet someone at his front door.

You know....Criminals like Krause like to hide due to the number of people he's ****ed out of money already.

To John, BAR, Greg, Richard, FlaJim, and ....
 

On Monday, September 9, 2013 10:21:40 AM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I've already written to my U.S. Representative and U.S. Senators and

expressed my opinion on these matters.



Too bad ****face Krause is in THEIR Bozo Bin....Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahah

To John, BAR, Greg, Richard, FlaJim, and ....
 

True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 September 2013 11:10:03 UTC-3, skin a cat wrote:
On 9/10/2013 9:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

"skin a cat" wrote in message ...
harry only says what he feels will get a response out of you. You could
stop it in one post if you wanted...
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Why? It's a civil discussion or debate, representing different points
of view. It's not like either of us are exchanging vile, vulgar
comments about wives or family members in an attempt to score "points".


I guess you get to set your bars where you like... The way harry, kevin,

and don talk about military service and veterans is as vulgar to me as

anything I have ever said.. Quite frankly, I find your repeated response

to such nonsense, repulsive...But like I said, you get to set your own

bars...

What are you blathering about MiniMan?
The only veterans I might ridicule are a certain handful in here and it has little to do with whatever military service they may or may not have provided.

True. You follow your lame leader.