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On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 19:42:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
...other fellow veterans. I especially appreciate #11 http://www.upworthy.com/hahaha-so-tr...red-of-hearing Love 'em all, but #11 is a true winner. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 9/9/13 10:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/9/13 10:26 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... I think we *win* when we sent our military forces into underdeveloped countries to provide disaster relief, food, medical care, potable water, repairing of light infrastructure, et cetera, with everything marked as "A Gift from the People of the United States," or when we align with other major powers to serve as peacekeepers. Taking sides in civil wars when the new guys are as bad as the old guys doesn't seem to work out for us. ------------------------------ Those goals are not ... and have never been ... the purpose of our military. The military is for fighting and winning wars or major military conflicts. Peacemaking, disaster relief, medical care, etc., is best performed by other organizations. We don't have major military conflicts or wars anymore, unless we create them, and history the last 70 years pretty much shows we shouldn't be fighting wars or major military conflicts. Working in the ways I've described will increase the prestige and esteem of this nation around the world, and it will give the military something actually *useful and helpful* to do. ------------------------ Again, that's not the purpose of the military. The military forces are trained and maintained to deal with threats to our national interests and to maintain a strong deterrent to foreign aggression . The National Guard (mostly reservists) are occasionally called upon to help with domestic natural disasters or civil unrest that threaten civilians, however their role is usually secondary to local law enforcement. Sometimes you appear to have an unrealistic, utopian view of the world. Without the strong military capability that we have, we probably wouldn't be the USA today. I understand what the purpose of the military is. The problems seem to arise when the military is used actively as the military. --------------------------- I disagree. The problems arise when the military is actively used for purposes it is not intended and politicians try to rely on it to solve diplomatic or foreign policy issues like nation building. |
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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:48:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/9/13 10:26 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... I think we *win* when we sent our military forces into underdeveloped countries to provide disaster relief, food, medical care, potable water, repairing of light infrastructure, et cetera, with everything marked as "A Gift from the People of the United States," or when we align with other major powers to serve as peacekeepers. Taking sides in civil wars when the new guys are as bad as the old guys doesn't seem to work out for us. ------------------------------ Those goals are not ... and have never been ... the purpose of our military. The military is for fighting and winning wars or major military conflicts. Peacemaking, disaster relief, medical care, etc., is best performed by other organizations. We don't have major military conflicts or wars anymore, unless we create them, and history the last 70 years pretty much shows we shouldn't be fighting wars or major military conflicts. Working in the ways I've described will increase the prestige and esteem of this nation around the world, and it will give the military something actually *useful and helpful* to do. ------------------------ Again, that's not the purpose of the military. The military forces are trained and maintained to deal with threats to our national interests and to maintain a strong deterrent to foreign aggression . The National Guard (mostly reservists) are occasionally called upon to help with domestic natural disasters or civil unrest that threaten civilians, however their role is usually secondary to local law enforcement. Sometimes you appear to have an unrealistic, utopian view of the world. Without the strong military capability that we have, we probably wouldn't be the USA today. You're doing a pretty good job, definitely devoting a lot more time to FQAD then he deserves. However, members of the National Guard are not called 'reservists'. Members of the US Army Reserve are called Reservists. Both organizations are part of the Reserve components, but they're quite different. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 10:58:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/9/13 10:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/9/13 10:26 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... I think we *win* when we sent our military forces into underdeveloped countries to provide disaster relief, food, medical care, potable water, repairing of light infrastructure, et cetera, with everything marked as "A Gift from the People of the United States," or when we align with other major powers to serve as peacekeepers. Taking sides in civil wars when the new guys are as bad as the old guys doesn't seem to work out for us. ------------------------------ Those goals are not ... and have never been ... the purpose of our military. The military is for fighting and winning wars or major military conflicts. Peacemaking, disaster relief, medical care, etc., is best performed by other organizations. We don't have major military conflicts or wars anymore, unless we create them, and history the last 70 years pretty much shows we shouldn't be fighting wars or major military conflicts. Working in the ways I've described will increase the prestige and esteem of this nation around the world, and it will give the military something actually *useful and helpful* to do. ------------------------ Again, that's not the purpose of the military. The military forces are trained and maintained to deal with threats to our national interests and to maintain a strong deterrent to foreign aggression . The National Guard (mostly reservists) are occasionally called upon to help with domestic natural disasters or civil unrest that threaten civilians, however their role is usually secondary to local law enforcement. Sometimes you appear to have an unrealistic, utopian view of the world. Without the strong military capability that we have, we probably wouldn't be the USA today. I understand what the purpose of the military is. The problems seem to arise when the military is used actively as the military. ....which is a political call. Liberal politicians tend to screw it up a lot. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 9/9/13 11:24 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 9/9/13 10:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/9/13 10:26 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... I think we *win* when we sent our military forces into underdeveloped countries to provide disaster relief, food, medical care, potable water, repairing of light infrastructure, et cetera, with everything marked as "A Gift from the People of the United States," or when we align with other major powers to serve as peacekeepers. Taking sides in civil wars when the new guys are as bad as the old guys doesn't seem to work out for us. ------------------------------ Those goals are not ... and have never been ... the purpose of our military. The military is for fighting and winning wars or major military conflicts. Peacemaking, disaster relief, medical care, etc., is best performed by other organizations. We don't have major military conflicts or wars anymore, unless we create them, and history the last 70 years pretty much shows we shouldn't be fighting wars or major military conflicts. Working in the ways I've described will increase the prestige and esteem of this nation around the world, and it will give the military something actually *useful and helpful* to do. ------------------------ Again, that's not the purpose of the military. The military forces are trained and maintained to deal with threats to our national interests and to maintain a strong deterrent to foreign aggression . The National Guard (mostly reservists) are occasionally called upon to help with domestic natural disasters or civil unrest that threaten civilians, however their role is usually secondary to local law enforcement. Sometimes you appear to have an unrealistic, utopian view of the world. Without the strong military capability that we have, we probably wouldn't be the USA today. I understand what the purpose of the military is. The problems seem to arise when the military is used actively as the military. --------------------------- I disagree. The problems arise when the military is actively used for purposes it is not intended and politicians try to rely on it to solve diplomatic or foreign policy issues like nation building. Use of the military is almost always a political call. |
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On 9/9/2013 8:19 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/9/13 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Monday, September 9, 2013 5:48:24 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 9/8/13 10:42 PM, Tim wrote: ...other fellow veterans. I especially appreciate #11 http://www.upworthy.com/hahaha-so-tr...red-of-hearing Yeah, because U.S. military adventurism has turned out so well for us since the end of World War II, eh? Harry, you should have taken advantage of it while you could have. I enjoyed my stint. Sorry, Tim, but I was never drafted and signing up just encourages militarism. Beside, I thought getting an education and starting a career were more important than killing SE Asians who posed no threat to the United States. We understand. You getting accepted into any college was a minor miracle. That's probably why you think so highly of that feat. |
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