....other fellow veterans.

I especially appreciate #11

http://www.upworthy.com/hahaha-so-tr...red-of-hearing

On Sunday, September 8, 2013 9:42:12 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
...other fellow veterans.



I especially appreciate #11



http://www.upworthy.com/hahaha-so-tr...red-of-hearing

#5's reply isn't bad either...

On 9/8/13 10:42 PM, Tim wrote:
...other fellow veterans.

I especially appreciate #11

http://www.upworthy.com/hahaha-so-tr...red-of-hearing



Yeah, because U.S. military adventurism has turned out so well for us
since the end of World War II, eh?

On Monday, September 9, 2013 5:48:24 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/8/13 10:42 PM, Tim wrote:

...other fellow veterans.



I especially appreciate #11



http://www.upworthy.com/hahaha-so-tr...red-of-hearing







Yeah, because U.S. military adventurism has turned out so well for us

since the end of World War II, eh?

Harry, you should have taken advantage of it while you could have. I enjoyed my stint.

On 9/9/13 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, September 9, 2013 5:48:24 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/8/13 10:42 PM, Tim wrote:

...other fellow veterans.



I especially appreciate #11



http://www.upworthy.com/hahaha-so-tr...red-of-hearing







Yeah, because U.S. military adventurism has turned out so well for us

since the end of World War II, eh?

Harry, you should have taken advantage of it while you could have. I enjoyed my stint.


Sorry, Tim, but I was never drafted and signing up just encourages
militarism. Beside, I thought getting an education and starting a career
were more important than killing SE Asians who posed no threat to the
United States.

On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 09:47:45 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Taking sides in civil wars
when the new guys are as bad as the old guys doesn't seem to work out
for us.

===

He's your president. Let him know.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I think we *win* when we sent our military forces into underdeveloped
countries to provide disaster relief, food, medical care, potable
water,
repairing of light infrastructure, et cetera, with everything marked
as
"A Gift from the People of the United States," or when we align with
other major powers to serve as peacekeepers. Taking sides in civil
wars
when the new guys are as bad as the old guys doesn't seem to work out
for us.

------------------------------

Those goals are not ... and have never been ... the purpose of our
military.

The military is for fighting and winning wars or major military
conflicts.
Peacemaking, disaster relief, medical care, etc., is best performed
by other organizations.

On 9/9/13 10:26 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I think we *win* when we sent our military forces into underdeveloped
countries to provide disaster relief, food, medical care, potable water,
repairing of light infrastructure, et cetera, with everything marked as
"A Gift from the People of the United States," or when we align with
other major powers to serve as peacekeepers. Taking sides in civil wars
when the new guys are as bad as the old guys doesn't seem to work out
for us.

------------------------------

Those goals are not ... and have never been ... the purpose of our
military.

The military is for fighting and winning wars or major military conflicts.
Peacemaking, disaster relief, medical care, etc., is best performed by
other organizations.



We don't have major military conflicts or wars anymore, unless we create
them, and history the last 70 years pretty much shows we shouldn't be
fighting wars or major military conflicts.

Working in the ways I've described will increase the prestige and esteem
of this nation around the world, and it will give the military something
actually *useful and helpful* to do.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 9/9/13 10:26 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I think we *win* when we sent our military forces into
underdeveloped
countries to provide disaster relief, food, medical care, potable
water,
repairing of light infrastructure, et cetera, with everything marked
as
"A Gift from the People of the United States," or when we align with
other major powers to serve as peacekeepers. Taking sides in civil
wars
when the new guys are as bad as the old guys doesn't seem to work
out
for us.

------------------------------

Those goals are not ... and have never been ... the purpose of our
military.

The military is for fighting and winning wars or major military
conflicts.
Peacemaking, disaster relief, medical care, etc., is best performed
by
other organizations.



We don't have major military conflicts or wars anymore, unless we
create
them, and history the last 70 years pretty much shows we shouldn't be
fighting wars or major military conflicts.

Working in the ways I've described will increase the prestige and
esteem
of this nation around the world, and it will give the military
something
actually *useful and helpful* to do.

------------------------

Again, that's not the purpose of the military. The military forces
are trained and maintained to deal with threats to our national
interests and to maintain a strong deterrent to foreign aggression .

The National Guard (mostly reservists) are occasionally called upon
to help with domestic natural disasters or civil unrest that threaten
civilians, however their role is usually secondary to local law
enforcement.

Sometimes you appear to have an unrealistic, utopian view of the
world. Without the strong military capability that we have, we
probably wouldn't be the USA today.

On 9/9/13 10:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 9/9/13 10:26 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I think we *win* when we sent our military forces into underdeveloped
countries to provide disaster relief, food, medical care, potable water,
repairing of light infrastructure, et cetera, with everything marked as
"A Gift from the People of the United States," or when we align with
other major powers to serve as peacekeepers. Taking sides in civil wars
when the new guys are as bad as the old guys doesn't seem to work out
for us.

------------------------------

Those goals are not ... and have never been ... the purpose of our
military.

The military is for fighting and winning wars or major military
conflicts.
Peacemaking, disaster relief, medical care, etc., is best performed by
other organizations.



We don't have major military conflicts or wars anymore, unless we create
them, and history the last 70 years pretty much shows we shouldn't be
fighting wars or major military conflicts.

Working in the ways I've described will increase the prestige and esteem
of this nation around the world, and it will give the military something
actually *useful and helpful* to do.

------------------------

Again, that's not the purpose of the military. The military forces are
trained and maintained to deal with threats to our national interests
and to maintain a strong deterrent to foreign aggression .

The National Guard (mostly reservists) are occasionally called upon to
help with domestic natural disasters or civil unrest that threaten
civilians, however their role is usually secondary to local law
enforcement.

Sometimes you appear to have an unrealistic, utopian view of the
world. Without the strong military capability that we have, we
probably wouldn't be the USA today.




I understand what the purpose of the military is. The problems seem to
arise when the military is used actively as the military.