On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:21:27 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 8/29/2013 2:04 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...


Well....their pickup diesel engines left something to be desired in
terms of reputation. Otherwise
I'd be driving a Ford diesel.

John (Gun Nut) H.

-----------------------

The old Powerstroke 7.2L was a reliable workhorse based on reports of
people that had them. The bad rap Ford diesels received was the 6.0L
replacement, and I can vouch for that. It was introduced under pressure
from Ford marketing before it was fully tested and developed.

The replacement for it ... the current 6.4L has a much better track
record and reputation.

I like diesel powered vehicles, particularly pickup trucks. I would
have purchased another one back in 2008 except they had just introduced
the mandated catalytic converter "burn off" systems. Sounded a little
*too* crazy and new for me, so I went for a gas powered F250 instead.
It serves my purposes and is now almost 6 model years old but has under
19,000 miles on it.

On the same note, I was reading the other day that diesel power may
soon become the engine of choice for a wide range of both passenger
vehicles as well as trucks. The new ones are clean, very fuel efficient
and make more practical sense than any of the electric hybrids currently
available.

One thing I'd like to see:

A diesel engine was never really designed to run over a wide range of
RPMs. It was designed to run at a fixed, optimum RPM where it develops
the most torque for the fuel it consumes. Diesel powered trains run
at a constant RPM and the power generated is converted to electricity to
run electric drive motors. I'd really be interested in how applying
that concept in cars or trucks, using the newer, high efficiency diesels
and electric motors available today.





I have often said the same thing... Wonder how a diesel powered,
electric car would do...

It would probably happen under this administration if they could figure a way to make a diesel
engine that would run with a 50% ethanol mixture.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:21:27 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 8/29/2013 2:04 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...


Well....their pickup diesel engines left something to be desired in
terms of reputation. Otherwise
I'd be driving a Ford diesel.

John (Gun Nut) H.

-----------------------

The old Powerstroke 7.2L was a reliable workhorse based on reports of
people that had them. The bad rap Ford diesels received was the 6.0L
replacement, and I can vouch for that. It was introduced under pressure
from Ford marketing before it was fully tested and developed.

The replacement for it ... the current 6.4L has a much better track
record and reputation.

I like diesel powered vehicles, particularly pickup trucks. I would
have purchased another one back in 2008 except they had just introduced
the mandated catalytic converter "burn off" systems. Sounded a little
*too* crazy and new for me, so I went for a gas powered F250 instead.
It serves my purposes and is now almost 6 model years old but has under
19,000 miles on it.

On the same note, I was reading the other day that diesel power may
soon become the engine of choice for a wide range of both passenger
vehicles as well as trucks. The new ones are clean, very fuel efficient
and make more practical sense than any of the electric hybrids currently
available.

One thing I'd like to see:

A diesel engine was never really designed to run over a wide range of
RPMs. It was designed to run at a fixed, optimum RPM where it develops
the most torque for the fuel it consumes. Diesel powered trains run
at a constant RPM and the power generated is converted to electricity to
run electric drive motors. I'd really be interested in how applying
that concept in cars or trucks, using the newer, high efficiency diesels
and electric motors available today.





I have often said the same thing... Wonder how a diesel powered,
electric car would do...

It would probably happen under this administration if they could figure a way to make a diesel
engine that would run with a 50% ethanol mixture.

John (Gun Nut) H.

You sure make some stupid comments, and that is one of the dumbest yet.

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:06:55 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:11:42 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:21:27 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 8/29/2013 2:04 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I have often said the same thing... Wonder how a diesel powered,
electric car would do...

It would probably happen under this administration if they could figure a way to make a diesel
engine that would run with a 50% ethanol mixture.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Bio diesel is the sweetheart of the moment. There are so many people
around here burning cooking oil that used oil has gone from something
they had to pay to haul away to another profit center. (usually pure
cash for the chef or restaurant manager)

At my wife's place they trade it for free electrical work. Their
electrician runs his trucks on cooking oil.

My owner's manual specifically prohibits it. But I hear it's pretty damn cheap!

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:12:34 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:06:55 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:11:42 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:21:27 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 8/29/2013 2:04 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I have often said the same thing... Wonder how a diesel powered,
electric car would do...

It would probably happen under this administration if they could
figure a way to make a diesel
engine that would run with a 50% ethanol mixture.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Bio diesel is the sweetheart of the moment. There are so many people
around here burning cooking oil that used oil has gone from something
they had to pay to haul away to another profit center. (usually pure
cash for the chef or restaurant manager)

At my wife's place they trade it for free electrical work. Their
electrician runs his trucks on cooking oil.

My owner's manual specifically prohibits it. But I hear it's pretty damn cheap!

John (Gun Nut) H.

This guy has a home built reprocessing facility in his shop and he
says the resulting oil is as good as anything you get from a pump.

The problem with 100% biodiesel is a low cetane number, and almost no
lubricity. Mix it 50/50 and is much better. Do not know what it does to
seals. My primer pump on my Duramax had to change the O-rings as the low
sulphur fuel was not good with the variety of seal material GM used. Can
buy the Vitol seal kit for $11 and takes about an hour to change.

On 8/29/2013 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:12:34 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:06:55 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:11:42 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:21:27 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 8/29/2013 2:04 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I have often said the same thing... Wonder how a diesel powered,
electric car would do...

It would probably happen under this administration if they could figure a way to make a diesel
engine that would run with a 50% ethanol mixture.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Bio diesel is the sweetheart of the moment. There are so many people
around here burning cooking oil that used oil has gone from something
they had to pay to haul away to another profit center. (usually pure
cash for the chef or restaurant manager)

At my wife's place they trade it for free electrical work. Their
electrician runs his trucks on cooking oil.

My owner's manual specifically prohibits it. But I hear it's pretty damn cheap!

John (Gun Nut) H.

This guy has a home built reprocessing facility in his shop and he
says the resulting oil is as good as anything you get from a pump.


I gotta' look back through my FB posts.. I have a picture of a hippie
bus in there I ran into last year at the end of the season. They came
and got about 6 gallons of cooking oil from my fryer and ran it in their
bus. The bus is equipt with a filter pump and system right in line so
you pour the straight cooking oil in one tank, it cleans and filters it,
and runs it in the engine all in one shot....

In article ,
says...

On 8/29/2013 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:12:34 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:06:55 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:11:42 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:21:27 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 8/29/2013 2:04 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I have often said the same thing... Wonder how a diesel powered,
electric car would do...

It would probably happen under this administration if they could figure a way to make a diesel
engine that would run with a 50% ethanol mixture.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Bio diesel is the sweetheart of the moment. There are so many people
around here burning cooking oil that used oil has gone from something
they had to pay to haul away to another profit center. (usually pure
cash for the chef or restaurant manager)

At my wife's place they trade it for free electrical work. Their
electrician runs his trucks on cooking oil.

My owner's manual specifically prohibits it. But I hear it's pretty damn cheap!

John (Gun Nut) H.

This guy has a home built reprocessing facility in his shop and he
says the resulting oil is as good as anything you get from a pump.


I gotta' look back through my FB posts.. I have a picture of a hippie
bus in there I ran into last year at the end of the season. They came
and got about 6 gallons of cooking oil from my fryer and ran it in their
bus. The bus is equipt with a filter pump and system right in line so
you pour the straight cooking oil in one tank, it cleans and filters it,
and runs it in the engine all in one shot....

Oh, horse****! It just isn't that easy.

On 8/29/13 7:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:11:42 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:21:27 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 8/29/2013 2:04 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I have often said the same thing... Wonder how a diesel powered,
electric car would do...

It would probably happen under this administration if they could figure a way to make a diesel
engine that would run with a 50% ethanol mixture.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Bio diesel is the sweetheart of the moment. There are so many people
around here burning cooking oil that used oil has gone from something
they had to pay to haul away to another profit center. (usually pure
cash for the chef or restaurant manager)

At my wife's place they trade it for free electrical work. Their
electrician runs his trucks on cooking oil.



The Larry guy from South Carolina who used to be active in boating news
groups talked all the time about running his old Mercedes diesel sedan
on used cooking oil. Saw a tanker truck today pumping out the used
cooking oil tanks at a restaurant today. I wonder who will be
reprocessing the used oil.