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On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:01:32 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:29:25 -0400, John H wrote: http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ John (Gun Nut) H. Oh ****, another WMD war. Is he going to find them? Carney says that Kerry says that more info is coming in the next few days. I'll tell you, this sure sounds much like the Bush administration's rationale and reasoning. But, this time the Syrian leader is not threatening the USA - unless we take action. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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John H wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:01:32 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:29:25 -0400, John H wrote: http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ John (Gun Nut) H. Oh ****, another WMD war. Is he going to find them? Carney says that Kerry says that more info is coming in the next few days. I'll tell you, this sure sounds much like the Bush administration's rationale and reasoning. But, this time the Syrian leader is not threatening the USA - unless we take action. John (Gun Nut) H. And the Russkies and Chinese say to stay out? Sounds like good advice. Let them reduce their population without USA help. Neither side is our friend. |
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On 8/27/13 11:53 AM, Califbill wrote:
John H wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:01:32 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:29:25 -0400, John H wrote: http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ John (Gun Nut) H. Oh ****, another WMD war. Is he going to find them? Carney says that Kerry says that more info is coming in the next few days. I'll tell you, this sure sounds much like the Bush administration's rationale and reasoning. But, this time the Syrian leader is not threatening the USA - unless we take action. John (Gun Nut) H. And the Russkies and Chinese say to stay out? Sounds like good advice. Let them reduce their population without USA help. Neither side is our friend. It's that humanitarian approach in you pro-fetus types I find so enlightening. |
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:53:33 -0500, Califbill wrote:
John H wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:01:32 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:29:25 -0400, John H wrote: http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ John (Gun Nut) H. Oh ****, another WMD war. Is he going to find them? Carney says that Kerry says that more info is coming in the next few days. I'll tell you, this sure sounds much like the Bush administration's rationale and reasoning. But, this time the Syrian leader is not threatening the USA - unless we take action. John (Gun Nut) H. And the Russkies and Chinese say to stay out? Sounds like good advice. Let them reduce their population without USA help. Neither side is our friend. Agreed. Let the Russians get involved. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 8/27/13 11:53 AM, Califbill wrote: John H wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:01:32 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:29:25 -0400, John H wrote: http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ John (Gun Nut) H. Oh ****, another WMD war. Is he going to find them? Carney says that Kerry says that more info is coming in the next few days. I'll tell you, this sure sounds much like the Bush administration's rationale and reasoning. But, this time the Syrian leader is not threatening the USA - unless we take action. John (Gun Nut) H. And the Russkies and Chinese say to stay out? Sounds like good advice. Let them reduce their population without USA help. Neither side is our friend. It's that humanitarian approach in you pro-fetus types I find so enlightening. I am humanitarian. Keep our soldiers healthy and safe. Why send our kids over where neither side wants them. Also, what happens when we attack a country that did not attack us? Seems as they then have a right to attack us. More 9/11's? |
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On 8/27/13 12:07 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 8/27/13 11:53 AM, Califbill wrote: John H wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:01:32 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:29:25 -0400, John H wrote: http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ John (Gun Nut) H. Oh ****, another WMD war. Is he going to find them? Carney says that Kerry says that more info is coming in the next few days. I'll tell you, this sure sounds much like the Bush administration's rationale and reasoning. But, this time the Syrian leader is not threatening the USA - unless we take action. John (Gun Nut) H. And the Russkies and Chinese say to stay out? Sounds like good advice. Let them reduce their population without USA help. Neither side is our friend. It's that humanitarian approach in you pro-fetus types I find so enlightening. I am humanitarian. Keep our soldiers healthy and safe. Why send our kids over where neither side wants them. Also, what happens when we attack a country that did not attack us? Seems as they then have a right to attack us. More 9/11's? I was referring to your comment about letting both sides in Syria "reduce their population without USA help." *That* is not a humanitarian comment. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 8/27/13 12:07 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 8/27/13 11:53 AM, Califbill wrote: John H wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:01:32 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:29:25 -0400, John H wrote: http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ John (Gun Nut) H. Oh ****, another WMD war. Is he going to find them? Carney says that Kerry says that more info is coming in the next few days. I'll tell you, this sure sounds much like the Bush administration's rationale and reasoning. But, this time the Syrian leader is not threatening the USA - unless we take action. John (Gun Nut) H. And the Russkies and Chinese say to stay out? Sounds like good advice. Let them reduce their population without USA help. Neither side is our friend. It's that humanitarian approach in you pro-fetus types I find so enlightening. I am humanitarian. Keep our soldiers healthy and safe. Why send our kids over where neither side wants them. Also, what happens when we attack a country that did not attack us? Seems as they then have a right to attack us. More 9/11's? I was referring to your comment about letting both sides in Syria "reduce their population without USA help." *That* is not a humanitarian comment. They seem to be a bang up job of reducing their population now. Why should we get involved? Maybe if they had to spend time growing food, instead of depending on humanitarian aid, they would have less time and materials for reducing their population via war. |
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On 8/27/2013 2:05 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 8/27/13 12:07 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 8/27/13 11:53 AM, Califbill wrote: John H wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:01:32 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:29:25 -0400, John H wrote: http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ John (Gun Nut) H. Oh ****, another WMD war. Is he going to find them? Carney says that Kerry says that more info is coming in the next few days. I'll tell you, this sure sounds much like the Bush administration's rationale and reasoning. But, this time the Syrian leader is not threatening the USA - unless we take action. John (Gun Nut) H. And the Russkies and Chinese say to stay out? Sounds like good advice. Let them reduce their population without USA help. Neither side is our friend. It's that humanitarian approach in you pro-fetus types I find so enlightening. I am humanitarian. Keep our soldiers healthy and safe. Why send our kids over where neither side wants them. Also, what happens when we attack a country that did not attack us? Seems as they then have a right to attack us. More 9/11's? I was referring to your comment about letting both sides in Syria "reduce their population without USA help." *That* is not a humanitarian comment. They seem to be a bang up job of reducing their population now. Why should we get involved? Maybe if they had to spend time growing food, instead of depending on humanitarian aid, they would have less time and materials for reducing their population via war. Quote of the day right there... |
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On 8/27/13 5:29 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 8/27/2013 2:05 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 8/27/13 12:07 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 8/27/13 11:53 AM, Califbill wrote: John H wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:01:32 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:29:25 -0400, John H wrote: http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ John (Gun Nut) H. Oh ****, another WMD war. Is he going to find them? Carney says that Kerry says that more info is coming in the next few days. I'll tell you, this sure sounds much like the Bush administration's rationale and reasoning. But, this time the Syrian leader is not threatening the USA - unless we take action. John (Gun Nut) H. And the Russkies and Chinese say to stay out? Sounds like good advice. Let them reduce their population without USA help. Neither side is our friend. It's that humanitarian approach in you pro-fetus types I find so enlightening. I am humanitarian. Keep our soldiers healthy and safe. Why send our kids over where neither side wants them. Also, what happens when we attack a country that did not attack us? Seems as they then have a right to attack us. More 9/11's? I was referring to your comment about letting both sides in Syria "reduce their population without USA help." *That* is not a humanitarian comment. They seem to be a bang up job of reducing their population now. Why should we get involved? Maybe if they had to spend time growing food, instead of depending on humanitarian aid, they would have less time and materials for reducing their population via war. Quote of the day right there... No question that you and your right-wing moron buddies Herring and Bilious Bill get woodys over statements that indicate no displeasure over the situation in Syria. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Richard had a proposal I support. I've supported that same sort of idea in other places...a massive influx of multinational humanitarian forces to take care of the sick, wounded non-combatants, with more than enough heavily equipped multinational warriors to take care of any who attack the humanitarian effort or those seeking it. And by multinational, I mean the Russians and Chinese, too, along with plenty of fighters from Muslim countries. As in, "you morons attack this effort militarily in any way, we'll slaughter you without quarter." ----------------------------- It would be interesting to try. Puts Putin in an awkward position for a change. What's he going to do, threaten military action against a multinational humanitarian effort? Or veto it in the UN? |
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On 8/27/2013 4:11 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Do this enough times, and we'll eliminate violent religious and other sorts of intolerance. Um, Harry. You are intolerance personified. Do us a favor and eliminate yourself for the good of mankind. |
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...."would turn tale"...??
Just what tales would they turn..the Adventures of Peter Pan and TinkerBell? |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 8/27/13 5:29 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 8/27/2013 2:05 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 8/27/13 12:07 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 8/27/13 11:53 AM, Califbill wrote: John H wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:01:32 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:29:25 -0400, John H wrote: http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ John (Gun Nut) H. Oh ****, another WMD war. Is he going to find them? Carney says that Kerry says that more info is coming in the next few days. I'll tell you, this sure sounds much like the Bush administration's rationale and reasoning. But, this time the Syrian leader is not threatening the USA - unless we take action. John (Gun Nut) H. And the Russkies and Chinese say to stay out? Sounds like good advice. Let them reduce their population without USA help. Neither side is our friend. It's that humanitarian approach in you pro-fetus types I find so enlightening. I am humanitarian. Keep our soldiers healthy and safe. Why send our kids over where neither side wants them. Also, what happens when we attack a country that did not attack us? Seems as they then have a right to attack us. More 9/11's? I was referring to your comment about letting both sides in Syria "reduce their population without USA help." *That* is not a humanitarian comment. They seem to be a bang up job of reducing their population now. Why should we get involved? Maybe if they had to spend time growing food, instead of depending on humanitarian aid, they would have less time and materials for reducing their population via war. Quote of the day right there... No question that you and your right-wing moron buddies Herring and Bilious Bill get woodys over statements that indicate no displeasure over the situation in Syria. I see no pleasure in the Syrian situation. Also Iraq and Afghanistan. Look what getting involved in those two places as accomplished. You want to have a 3rd front? |
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On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 9:23:17 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
..."would turn tale"...?? Just what tales would they turn..the Adventures of Peter Pan and TinkerBell? The above comment is why there are some of us who would love to cause mortal injuries to the fat **** of an author that posted them. |
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On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 9:31:12 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Some have the freedom of forming a personal opinion. You don't. That's the difference. The above reason that dick.....is a DICKLICKER. |
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On Wednesday, 28 August 2013 08:13:00 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
Sorry dick, not gonna' bother with your self serving drivel.... Boy... Iboater sure does have you pegged. Now you're in the 'poor little me ..everyone's picking on me' quarter of your monthly cycle. Man up and acknowledge your faults. That's the first step to correcting them. |
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On 8/28/2013 11:43 AM, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 28 August 2013 08:13:00 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote: Sorry dick, not gonna' bother with your self serving drivel.... Boy... Iboater sure does have you pegged. Now you're in the 'poor little me ..everyone's picking on me' quarter of your monthly cycle. Man up and acknowledge your faults. That's the first step to correcting them. HOLY CRAP!.. LOL! |
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On 8/28/13 12:57 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:11:46 -0400, John H wrote: So far, there's been nothing to show that the rebels were *not* the ones using the chemical weapons just to get the reaction they're getting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM_FElma6Cw&feature Sheesh...is there no right wing lunatic "source" you righties don't believe? Gordon Duff? Heheheh. |
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On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:57:58 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:11:46 -0400, John H wrote: So far, there's been nothing to show that the rebels were *not* the ones using the chemical weapons just to get the reaction they're getting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM_FElma6Cw&feature Gosh, who'da thunk. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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says... On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:57:58 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:11:46 -0400, John H wrote: So far, there's been nothing to show that the rebels were *not* the ones using the chemical weapons just to get the reaction they're getting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM_FElma6Cw&feature Gosh, who'da thunk. John (Gun Nut) H. You. |
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says... "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 8/27/13 2:40 PM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 12:02:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: And the Russkies and Chinese say to stay out? Sounds like good advice. Let them reduce their population without USA help. Neither side is our friend. It's that humanitarian approach in you pro-fetus types I find so enlightening. Replacing a Hamas backed Assad with an Al Qeada based radical muslim government is a tumor transplant at best. I'm curious: do you or "the others" see something in my post about humanitarianism that calls for any sort of military action? I don't. What I was commenting upon was the freeper's comment about "reducing population" and how that comment was not humanitarian. Why would I want to support an idea that calls for massive deaths on both sides? Abstract thinking, an ability in short supply in rec.boats. Actually that is abstract thinking at it's best. If you can not see it, you lack abstract-ness. The earth is over populated, and in olden times disease and war kept the population in bounds. The people in the Middle East seem to think killing each other is OK. So let them have at it. Get-r-done. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. |
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"BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) |
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On 8/28/13 6:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) If you haven't figured out Bertie A. Robbins yet, he's the card-carrying member of the John Birch Society, except a century and a a half earlier. The age of reason and enlightenment skipped him. It's why he's on my do not read list...there's nothing there but hate. |
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BAR wrote:
In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. |
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, says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... |
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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iBoaterer wrote:
In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... Before man, the natural fires cleaned out the dead stuff. Plus we had more mixed forest. Now after logging, it is single type tree being planted. |
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says... On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. What "God"? |
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On 8/29/13 2:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. What "God"? The one Herring hallucinated about when he spent three months at a VA hospital getting detoxed. |
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:50:56 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 8/29/13 2:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. What "God"? The one Herring hallucinated about when he spent three months at a VA hospital getting detoxed. Never spent any time in a VA hospital, other than appointments. Perhaps a little reading comprehension would help, although I don't expect you to know much about different military hospitals. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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In article ,
says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... Before man, the natural fires cleaned out the dead stuff. Plus we had more mixed forest. Now after logging, it is single type tree being planted. Trees are a crop!!! |
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On 8/29/13 2:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. What "God"? The one Herring hallucinated about when he spent three months at a VA hospital getting detoxed. It usually only takes two weeks. |
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In article , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... Before man, the natural fires cleaned out the dead stuff. Plus we had more mixed forest. Now after logging, it is single type tree being planted. Trees are a crop!!! They are, but planting single specie is not a healthy way to farm. |
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:16:50 -0400, BAR wrote: Before man, the natural fires cleaned out the dead stuff. Plus we had more mixed forest. Now after logging, it is single type tree being planted. Trees are a crop!!! Certainly true on a tree farm but we also need forests. I spend a lot of time in our national forests (hiking) and even the ones that allow logging, still manage the forest fairly well. You really don't see a lot of it if you are not in the Rockies and points west, all the way to the coast. They have national forests in the east but they are just "woods" compared to western forests. But in the National forests the clear cut is planted as required. But they use only one type tree. My former business partner's son and wife are forest managers for the national forests. He hydrologist and wife time sales manager. Big problem is with the tree hugger crowd. The want all logging stopped. But then a fire, and the breaks and roads the Cat cuts are really bad for erosion. Where managed forests cuts and roads are designed for erosion control. |
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