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says... In article , says... On 8/29/13 2:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. What "God"? The one Herring hallucinated about when he spent three months at a VA hospital getting detoxed. It usually only takes two weeks. Wow, he must have been really messed up then. |
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On 8/30/13 8:59 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... In article , says... On 8/29/13 2:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. What "God"? The one Herring hallucinated about when he spent three months at a VA hospital getting detoxed. It usually only takes two weeks. Wow, he must have been really messed up then. Actually, length of stay for detox and stabilization depends on a number of factors. If you are indigent and picked up by the police, you might find yourself in a three day detox/stabilization and then dumped back out on the street. If you have decent insurance and you are on heroin, you might end up in a 30-day detox/stabilization/therapy program with outpatient followups. Perhaps someday Herring will share his experiences in getting his alcohol abuse under a modicum of control. |
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On 8/30/2013 9:06 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/30/13 8:59 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On 8/29/13 2:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. What "God"? The one Herring hallucinated about when he spent three months at a VA hospital getting detoxed. It usually only takes two weeks. Wow, he must have been really messed up then. Actually, length of stay for detox and stabilization depends on a number of factors. If you are indigent and picked up by the police, you might find yourself in a three day detox/stabilization and then dumped back out on the street. If you have decent insurance and you are on heroin, you might end up in a 30-day detox/stabilization/therapy program with outpatient followups. Perhaps someday Herring will share his experiences in getting his alcohol abuse under a modicum of control. What is the source of the anecdotal information you are presenting? I suspect it's from a doctoral thesis presented by a PHD wanna be. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Actually, length of stay for detox and stabilization depends on a number of factors. If you are indigent and picked up by the police, you might find yourself in a three day detox/stabilization and then dumped back out on the street. If you have decent insurance and you are on heroin, you might end up in a 30-day detox/stabilization/therapy program with outpatient followups. --------------------------- Only if the addict *wants* help. In many, if not most cases they are in denial that they even have a problem, particularly with alcoholism. The booze really screws up their ability to think in any rational way. Entering a treatment center for detox, rehab and therapy is voluntary, except in very difficult to obtain court ordered cases. |
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On 8/30/13 8:59 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On 8/29/13 2:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. What "God"? The one Herring hallucinated about when he spent three months at a VA hospital getting detoxed. It usually only takes two weeks. Wow, he must have been really messed up then. Actually, length of stay for detox and stabilization depends on a number of factors. If you are indigent and picked up by the police, you might find yourself in a three day detox/stabilization and then dumped back out on the street. If you have decent insurance and you are on heroin, you might end up in a 30-day detox/stabilization/therapy program with outpatient followups. How many people have "decent" insurance and who are on Heroin? Perhaps someday Herring will share his experiences in getting his alcohol abuse under a modicum of control. Maybe you can tell us about all of your fiscal issues someday. You know, the ones where you had to be sued by the federal, state and local governments to pay your fair share. |
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On 8/30/13 9:45 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Actually, length of stay for detox and stabilization depends on a number of factors. If you are indigent and picked up by the police, you might find yourself in a three day detox/stabilization and then dumped back out on the street. If you have decent insurance and you are on heroin, you might end up in a 30-day detox/stabilization/therapy program with outpatient followups. --------------------------- Only if the addict *wants* help. In many, if not most cases they are in denial that they even have a problem, particularly with alcoholism. The booze really screws up their ability to think in any rational way. Entering a treatment center for detox, rehab and therapy is voluntary, except in very difficult to obtain court ordered cases. Absolutely. |
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On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 08:59:01 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... In article , says... On 8/29/13 2:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. What "God"? The one Herring hallucinated about when he spent three months at a VA hospital getting detoxed. It usually only takes two weeks. Wow, he must have been really messed up then. I wasn't in a VA hospital. Wasn't getting detoxed. Was 'messed up'! John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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says... On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 08:59:01 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On 8/29/13 2:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. What "God"? The one Herring hallucinated about when he spent three months at a VA hospital getting detoxed. It usually only takes two weeks. Wow, he must have been really messed up then. I wasn't in a VA hospital. Wasn't getting detoxed. Was 'messed up'! John (Gun Nut) H. And still are. |
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On 8/31/13 10:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 08:59:01 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On 8/29/13 2:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. What "God"? The one Herring hallucinated about when he spent three months at a VA hospital getting detoxed. It usually only takes two weeks. Wow, he must have been really messed up then. I wasn't in a VA hospital. Wasn't getting detoxed. Was 'messed up'! John (Gun Nut) H. And still are. Indeed. |
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On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 10:33:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 08:59:01 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On 8/29/13 2:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. What "God"? The one Herring hallucinated about when he spent three months at a VA hospital getting detoxed. It usually only takes two weeks. Wow, he must have been really messed up then. I wasn't in a VA hospital. Wasn't getting detoxed. Was 'messed up'! John (Gun Nut) H. And still are. Actually, they fixed me up pretty good. No complaints and very impressed with the hospital. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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