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BAR[_2_] August 27th 13 08:06 PM

Do I need this?
 
In article , says...

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:07:51 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:08:18 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 8/27/2013 10:40 AM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 18:07:05 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...


Greg may have a point in using the laser to help with the 'yips'. One
could dry fire at the TV and
try to keep the laser steady. I'd be hesitant to use it at the range
until I could control it well
enough to keep folks from laughing at all the jiggling.

John (Gun Nut) H.

--------------------------

Don't worry about the laughter. Unless you are indoors, they won't be
able to see it either.

I learned to reduce the jitters by simply relaxing a bit, and also not
locking my elbows and arms.
It's like when I first tried golf. I was gripping the club so hard
my fingers where turning white.
A friend who was an experienced (and very good) golfer noticed and
worked with me to relax my grip.
He had me walking down the fairway shaking my hands like they were wet
and I was trying to air dry them.

At the next tee, I tried my new, improved "relaxed grip" and tossed
the club about 25 yards down the fairway.
Re-adjusted a bit back to a slightly stronger grip and my golf game
improved dramatically.


The range I use is indoors, so the 'spot' would be very visible. I don't have a laser on any of the
guns, but we did do some giggling at the range when we saw the 'spot' jiggling all over the target.

I wish I could find an easy cure for my golf game. I've been stuck in the doldrum 90's for too long
now.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Get a pro for a few lessons.... We were gifted some "lessons" by the
team and have gotten to work with a currently ranked pro rider... Jess
has had a problem called "dabbing" that has hurt her corners for years.
When you dab, your inside foot in a corner hits the ground, and you fall
in losing contact with the outside leg and foot peg... This means you
come off the throttle, etc... Anyway, we have been working for two
years on keeping the weight on the outside peg... driving me nuts. Turns
out, five minutes into our lesson he says "she's dabbing, her inside
elbow is wrong"... Two years of agony solved with five minutes of pro
advice.... anyway, spend a few bucks, enjoy your sport more than you do
now...:)

I've tried lessons with pros on four occasions. One of them was working very well when the pro moved
to California. The other three didn't do so well, although one was really nice looking! But, she
wasn't cheap, and the course is a long drive from my house.

http://www.larkingolf.com/

John (Gun Nut) H.


At some point you have to decide whether your enjoyment of playing the game as you can or
trying to improve to a certain targed performance level with all of the time and effort that
is involved in trying to achieve that targed performance level. Me, I am happy with my game
and really enjoy playing and don't want to put 20 hours a week into practicing.


I'm enjoying the game. Not happy with my performance. Not willing to put in 20 hours a week of
practice, but do go to the range a couple times a week to bang balls. I can always say the main
reason I'm playing the game is for the exercise!

John (Gun Nut) H.


I will hit three balls on the range before a round and I will kit about 4 to 6 putts in the
practice green, then it is off to the first tee.

John H[_2_] August 27th 13 08:15 PM

Do I need this?
 
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:06:37 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:07:51 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:08:18 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 8/27/2013 10:40 AM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 18:07:05 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...


Greg may have a point in using the laser to help with the 'yips'. One
could dry fire at the TV and
try to keep the laser steady. I'd be hesitant to use it at the range
until I could control it well
enough to keep folks from laughing at all the jiggling.

John (Gun Nut) H.

--------------------------

Don't worry about the laughter. Unless you are indoors, they won't be
able to see it either.

I learned to reduce the jitters by simply relaxing a bit, and also not
locking my elbows and arms.
It's like when I first tried golf. I was gripping the club so hard
my fingers where turning white.
A friend who was an experienced (and very good) golfer noticed and
worked with me to relax my grip.
He had me walking down the fairway shaking my hands like they were wet
and I was trying to air dry them.

At the next tee, I tried my new, improved "relaxed grip" and tossed
the club about 25 yards down the fairway.
Re-adjusted a bit back to a slightly stronger grip and my golf game
improved dramatically.


The range I use is indoors, so the 'spot' would be very visible. I don't have a laser on any of the
guns, but we did do some giggling at the range when we saw the 'spot' jiggling all over the target.

I wish I could find an easy cure for my golf game. I've been stuck in the doldrum 90's for too long
now.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Get a pro for a few lessons.... We were gifted some "lessons" by the
team and have gotten to work with a currently ranked pro rider... Jess
has had a problem called "dabbing" that has hurt her corners for years.
When you dab, your inside foot in a corner hits the ground, and you fall
in losing contact with the outside leg and foot peg... This means you
come off the throttle, etc... Anyway, we have been working for two
years on keeping the weight on the outside peg... driving me nuts. Turns
out, five minutes into our lesson he says "she's dabbing, her inside
elbow is wrong"... Two years of agony solved with five minutes of pro
advice.... anyway, spend a few bucks, enjoy your sport more than you do
now...:)

I've tried lessons with pros on four occasions. One of them was working very well when the pro moved
to California. The other three didn't do so well, although one was really nice looking! But, she
wasn't cheap, and the course is a long drive from my house.

http://www.larkingolf.com/

John (Gun Nut) H.

At some point you have to decide whether your enjoyment of playing the game as you can or
trying to improve to a certain targed performance level with all of the time and effort that
is involved in trying to achieve that targed performance level. Me, I am happy with my game
and really enjoy playing and don't want to put 20 hours a week into practicing.


I'm enjoying the game. Not happy with my performance. Not willing to put in 20 hours a week of
practice, but do go to the range a couple times a week to bang balls. I can always say the main
reason I'm playing the game is for the exercise!

John (Gun Nut) H.


I will hit three balls on the range before a round and I will kit about 4 to 6 putts in the
practice green, then it is off to the first tee.


My local course doesn't have a range, although it does have a practice green, which is usually wet
with dew when I get there. How do you get three balls to hit on the range? Did you buy a bucket and
just keep it in your car? (Now that I think of it, that's not a bad idea!)


John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

[email protected] August 27th 13 09:45 PM

Do I need this?
 
On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 1:34:53 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:


As opposed to what? Getting advice from a moron like you who was

socially promoted out of high school?


Or a "cellar-dwelling " greasy slug like you....****face.

BAR[_2_] August 27th 13 11:39 PM

Do I need this?
 
In article , says...

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:06:37 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:07:51 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:08:18 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 8/27/2013 10:40 AM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 18:07:05 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...


Greg may have a point in using the laser to help with the 'yips'. One
could dry fire at the TV and
try to keep the laser steady. I'd be hesitant to use it at the range
until I could control it well
enough to keep folks from laughing at all the jiggling.

John (Gun Nut) H.

--------------------------

Don't worry about the laughter. Unless you are indoors, they won't be
able to see it either.

I learned to reduce the jitters by simply relaxing a bit, and also not
locking my elbows and arms.
It's like when I first tried golf. I was gripping the club so hard
my fingers where turning white.
A friend who was an experienced (and very good) golfer noticed and
worked with me to relax my grip.
He had me walking down the fairway shaking my hands like they were wet
and I was trying to air dry them.

At the next tee, I tried my new, improved "relaxed grip" and tossed
the club about 25 yards down the fairway.
Re-adjusted a bit back to a slightly stronger grip and my golf game
improved dramatically.


The range I use is indoors, so the 'spot' would be very visible. I don't have a laser on any of the
guns, but we did do some giggling at the range when we saw the 'spot' jiggling all over the target.

I wish I could find an easy cure for my golf game. I've been stuck in the doldrum 90's for too long
now.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Get a pro for a few lessons.... We were gifted some "lessons" by the
team and have gotten to work with a currently ranked pro rider... Jess
has had a problem called "dabbing" that has hurt her corners for years.
When you dab, your inside foot in a corner hits the ground, and you fall
in losing contact with the outside leg and foot peg... This means you
come off the throttle, etc... Anyway, we have been working for two
years on keeping the weight on the outside peg... driving me nuts. Turns
out, five minutes into our lesson he says "she's dabbing, her inside
elbow is wrong"... Two years of agony solved with five minutes of pro
advice.... anyway, spend a few bucks, enjoy your sport more than you do
now...:)

I've tried lessons with pros on four occasions. One of them was working very well when the pro moved
to California. The other three didn't do so well, although one was really nice looking! But, she
wasn't cheap, and the course is a long drive from my house.

http://www.larkingolf.com/

John (Gun Nut) H.

At some point you have to decide whether your enjoyment of playing the game as you can or
trying to improve to a certain targed performance level with all of the time and effort that
is involved in trying to achieve that targed performance level. Me, I am happy with my game
and really enjoy playing and don't want to put 20 hours a week into practicing.


I'm enjoying the game. Not happy with my performance. Not willing to put in 20 hours a week of
practice, but do go to the range a couple times a week to bang balls. I can always say the main
reason I'm playing the game is for the exercise!

John (Gun Nut) H.


I will hit three balls on the range before a round and I will kit about 4 to 6 putts in the
practice green, then it is off to the first tee.


My local course doesn't have a range, although it does have a practice green, which is usually wet
with dew when I get there. How do you get three balls to hit on the range? Did you buy a bucket and
just keep it in your car? (Now that I think of it, that's not a bad idea!)


I let someone else buy the bucket of balls or a pick some up from the chipping green.

I have a friend who keeps a bucket in his trunk.

Earl[_91_] August 28th 13 01:21 AM

Do I need this?
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:


"Earl" wrote in message
...

BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:59:27 -0400, John H
wrote:

Beautiful gun. Nice price.

http://tinyurl.com/ls8jvo5

John (Gun Nut) H.
That is a lot of gun to carry.
Kimber does make a nice mini 9mm that my neighbor has. It is $1500 or
so.

I am looking at a couple of Sig's, P239 and P938, a Beretta Nano and
the gun I have always
wanted a Colt Mustang .380.


Check out the S&W Bodyguard, too.

----------------------------------

I have a S&W Bodyguard 380. As the name suggests, it's a close up,
self defense pistol only and not something you'd go to the target
range with except maybe to practice at 7 yards or so. Double action
only with an excessively long, 10 lb. trigger pull as it comes from
the factory. It took me a while to adjust for the tendency to shoot
low because of the long trigger pull.

It's also a pain in the rear to break down for cleaning because of the
weird little lever/pin that must be positioned and manipulated in
exactly the right way in order to re-assemble. I've had mine apart
many times and still have difficulty sometimes getting it back
together properly.

Despite it's drawbacks, I still like it. It's small, light and is
easily concealed if you carry. The long trigger pull and lack of an
exposed hammer makes it a very safe carry pistol. I bought a pocket
holster for it and on the few occasions that I carry, I just stick it
in my pants pocket.


I have the Beretta 21A Bobcat Inox on order for my pocket carry. I
prefer a safety and this gun is tiny. I have .380's but this .22LR can
get the job done in a small package with SA and DA.

Tim August 28th 13 01:25 AM

Do I need this?
 
On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 7:11:22 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

... A sign from that mysterious imaginary being of mythology and
superstition ...


Which one?


Tim August 28th 13 01:27 AM

Do I need this?
 
On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 9:42:34 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:14:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:



On Monday, August 26, 2013 5:51:05 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:






I don't practice shooting using human targets.
















Well, then, why would you want a laser sight? They're not much good




for




target shooting.








----------------------------------------








If you re-read the thread you will find that I have stated that I




think the lasers are worthless and wouldn't pay anything extra or seek




out a particular gun only because it has one. The two handguns that




I own that have them came standard with them. I don't use them.








For reasons already stated in another post, I don't think they are of




much value in a home defense, intruder situation either.




I'd rather practice shooting at close range without sighting, using




the handgun I'd reach for in the event of a home intruder.




At 10-15 feet or so, I've become fairly proficient at hitting a small




(8-inch) target, some near the bull's eye, with the 38 Chief's




Special revolver, without sighting.




Exactly right, Rick. I've always thought using laser sights was a waste and actually can be harmful especially in a smoky or light fog situation.




My son was thinking about getting a laser sight for his Taurus 9mm. and I advised him that if push came to shove it could actually be dangerous for him. and I used the Classic CZ "Duty" video commercial for reference. Here's a copy of the letter i wrote to him....






"OK, so you can see the Hollywood 'action' in this CZ pistol video. Now, looking at the bigger picture, you can see why these ninny's wouldn't last one minute against armed (usually para-military) terrorists etc, before they were taken out. Noise, racket, flashlights, yelling, laser sighting, stalling and dropping to their knees (slowly) before taking a shot. BTW, it also looks like the one guy gets up while his partner is still shooting- a good way to take one in the back."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaDlSKrep0I



Those CZ folks ain't too bright - unless lit up by a flashlight.



John (Gun Nut) H.




Hope you're having a great day!


"Follow the bouncing ball"

F.O.A.D. August 28th 13 01:40 AM

Do I need this?
 
Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 7:11:22 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

... A sign from that mysterious imaginary being of mythology and
superstition ...


Which one?


All of them.

Mr. Luddite August 28th 13 01:51 AM

Do I need this?
 


"Earl" wrote in message
...

Mr. Luddite wrote:


"Earl" wrote in message
...

BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:59:27 -0400, John H
wrote:

Beautiful gun. Nice price.

http://tinyurl.com/ls8jvo5

John (Gun Nut) H.
That is a lot of gun to carry.
Kimber does make a nice mini 9mm that my neighbor has. It is $1500
or
so.

I am looking at a couple of Sig's, P239 and P938, a Beretta Nano
and the gun I have always
wanted a Colt Mustang .380.


Check out the S&W Bodyguard, too.

----------------------------------

I have a S&W Bodyguard 380. As the name suggests, it's a close up,
self defense pistol only and not something you'd go to the target
range with except maybe to practice at 7 yards or so. Double action
only with an excessively long, 10 lb. trigger pull as it comes from
the factory. It took me a while to adjust for the tendency to shoot
low because of the long trigger pull.

It's also a pain in the rear to break down for cleaning because of
the weird little lever/pin that must be positioned and manipulated
in exactly the right way in order to re-assemble. I've had mine
apart many times and still have difficulty sometimes getting it back
together properly.

Despite it's drawbacks, I still like it. It's small, light and is
easily concealed if you carry. The long trigger pull and lack of an
exposed hammer makes it a very safe carry pistol. I bought a
pocket holster for it and on the few occasions that I carry, I just
stick it in my pants pocket.


I have the Beretta 21A Bobcat Inox on order for my pocket carry. I
prefer a safety and this gun is tiny. I have .380's but this .22LR
can
get the job done in a small package with SA and DA.

-----------------------------

Yeah, a good friend of mine has a pre-ban Beretta Bobcat. I really
liked it but unfortunately, it's not on the "compliant" list here.
I'll have to keep an eye out for a pre-ban, used one that has always
been in MA.



Earl[_91_] August 29th 13 12:51 AM

Do I need this?
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:


"Earl" wrote in message
...

Mr. Luddite wrote:


"Earl" wrote in message
...

BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:59:27 -0400, John H
wrote:

Beautiful gun. Nice price.

http://tinyurl.com/ls8jvo5

John (Gun Nut) H.
That is a lot of gun to carry.
Kimber does make a nice mini 9mm that my neighbor has. It is $1500 or
so.
I am looking at a couple of Sig's, P239 and P938, a Beretta Nano and
the gun I have always
wanted a Colt Mustang .380.


Check out the S&W Bodyguard, too.

----------------------------------

I have a S&W Bodyguard 380. As the name suggests, it's a close up,
self defense pistol only and not something you'd go to the target
range with except maybe to practice at 7 yards or so. Double action
only with an excessively long, 10 lb. trigger pull as it comes from
the factory. It took me a while to adjust for the tendency to shoot
low because of the long trigger pull.

It's also a pain in the rear to break down for cleaning because of
the weird little lever/pin that must be positioned and manipulated in
exactly the right way in order to re-assemble. I've had mine apart
many times and still have difficulty sometimes getting it back
together properly.

Despite it's drawbacks, I still like it. It's small, light and is
easily concealed if you carry. The long trigger pull and lack of an
exposed hammer makes it a very safe carry pistol. I bought a pocket
holster for it and on the few occasions that I carry, I just stick it
in my pants pocket.


I have the Beretta 21A Bobcat Inox on order for my pocket carry. I
prefer a safety and this gun is tiny. I have .380's but this .22LR can
get the job done in a small package with SA and DA.

-----------------------------

Yeah, a good friend of mine has a pre-ban Beretta Bobcat. I really
liked it but unfortunately, it's not on the "compliant" list here.
I'll have to keep an eye out for a pre-ban, used one that has always
been in MA.


I owned an older model, a .25, that I sold and regretted later. Even
though .25 is hard to find, it packed a decent punch.

I'm looking forward to the new one. It's stainless steel - the other
was steel and needed more care and oil to keep the finish always looking
new. The stainless is a better choice for the pocket.

Tim August 29th 13 01:21 AM

Do I need this?
 
On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 7:40:54 PM UTC-5, F. O. A. D. wrote:
Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 7:11:22 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:




... A sign from that mysterious imaginary being of mythology and


superstition ...




Which one?




All of them.


Then why didn't you say something to the effect of- " ... 'sign[s] from 'those' imaginary being[s]...?"



F.O.A.D. August 29th 13 01:36 AM

Do I need this?
 
On 8/28/13 8:21 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 7:40:54 PM UTC-5, F. O. A. D. wrote:
Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 7:11:22 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:




... A sign from that mysterious imaginary being of mythology and


superstition ...




Which one?




All of them.


Then why didn't you say something to the effect of- " ... 'sign[s] from 'those' imaginary being[s]...?"





Tim, I'm not writing garden-path sentences. The imaginary being(s) are
all part of the conceptions of a god, the god, gods, whatever, all part
of the same sort of superstition.

Tim August 29th 13 01:40 AM

Do I need this?
 
On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 7:36:48 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/28/13 8:21 PM, Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 7:40:54 PM UTC-5, F. O. A. D. wrote:


Tim wrote:




On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 7:11:22 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:








... A sign from that mysterious imaginary being of mythology and




superstition ...








Which one?








All of them.




Then why didn't you say something to the effect of- " ... 'sign[s] from 'those' imaginary being[s]...?"












Tim, I'm not writing garden-path sentences. The imaginary being(s) are

all part of the conceptions of a god, the god, gods, whatever, all part

of the same sort of superstition.


But still, it doesn't make sense at least to me why you'd write singular then plural- back and forth etc.


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