On 8/1/2013 9:37 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/1/13 9:16 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 8/1/13 8:13 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 8/1/13 7:11 PM, Eisboch wrote:


Somebody here (forget who) recently made a comment about John
suggesting
that he may be a recovering alcoholic. Didn't say he *was*. Just
suggested that maybe he was. It was uncalled for and obviously the
poster has absolutely no idea if it is true or not.

Harry liked that of course, picked up on it and within the hour was
commenting on John's alcoholism, as if it was a proven fact.
That's the crap that gets me ****ed off sometimes. Cute but
transparent.


I think it is possible Herring is an alcoholic in recovery. If he is,
there's nothing wrong with that. Recovery means you are controlling the
illness, and it isn't controlling you. And I surely think those
Republicans who so obviously hate the poor, minorities and the
disenfranchised are Republic-trash. Absolutely.

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It's also possible that you (or I) are methamphetamine addicts, but
there is no evidence of that being a fact.
My complaint was your follow-up post insinuating that he indeed *is* an
alcoholic. You have no knowledge of that that I or anyone else is aware
of.

As for Jim, you claim to have him in your Bozo bin, so I don't
understand your frequent comments about his posts. Well, that's not
true. I completely understand the purpose of your responses. I see
his posts and frankly they are often funny as hell. I suspect he gets
as big a kick out of your accusations and disparaging remarks about him
as you enjoy making them. Pretty harmless, overall, unlike some of the
mean spirited and blatantly false statements and assumptions you often
make about people who don't agree with you. That's why I get ****ed off
sometimes.

Reminds me of five year olds sometimes. "He hit me first". Only thing
is I am one of several people who actually remember who started it.




I see the occasional flajim post second or third hand, when someone
quotes him.

And, as I posted earlier, you think flajim's snarky behavior here is
"funny as hell." So it is ok when your right-wing buddy does it. Right?
Hypocrisy.

If you wanted a nicer newsgroup, you'd share your wrath.

---------------------------------

I'd suggest that we let others be the judge and jury.




Most of the "others" are right-wing Republitrash, as if you didn't know.
Note that I stated "most," not all.

Hey, it's okay with me...this newsgroup is in the dumpster and it isn't
going to get out of there so long as a majority of the overwhelming
number of righties here continue to trash everyone who doesn't share
their racist, anti-ethnic, anti-female, more guns for everyone bull****.

As always, have a nice day.

Have some warm milk and go to bed. Maybe you'll feel less down trodden
in the morning.

On Thursday, August 1, 2013 8:55:18 AM UTC-5, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message

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On 8/1/13 8:48 AM, Eisboch wrote:





So much for turning the newsgroup back to the "regular" insulters as

you

stated in a previous post.

Oh. I forgot. You are a "special" insulter.







Didn't you tell me your buddy FlaJim thinks such behavior is fun? I'm

just trying it out to see if it is true. So far, it seems like fun for

the feeble minded, which, I suppose, is why your feeble-minded buddy

likes it.



---------------------------------------------



Please Harry. You have contributed more to the demise of rec.boats as

a boating newsgroup and place of information and experience sharing

than anyone else who has followed the group for any period of time.

You singlehandedly have converted it into a social commentary forum

and pen hateful, mean spirited comments to anyone who disagree with

you unless they show you the proper respect that you seem to think you

deserve. That requires others to not engage in the same type of

constant insults that you do.



Maybe if you backed off and allowed other points of view without

instantly classifying them as trash, racist, looney or whatever the

current and popular liberal descriptors are, this place could be fun

to participate in again. You have to remember .... the demise of

rec.boats started many years ago, primarily led by you. I think you

stay here now because you get some sort of perverse, bizarre pleasure

in trying to be a verbal bully.



I remember when I first subscribed to rec.boats. You came across as

having a well developed ego, which is ok as long as it doesn't cross

the line of looking down your nose at others that don't share your

views. I recognized that immediately, but realized that everyone is

different and a strong ego doesn't necessarily make someone bad. But

when your self assigned air of superiority leads to general insults

and snarky comments, it can only result in ill feelings and a tendency

to "fight back" by those you have offended. Maybe that's what you

find so entertaining. I don't know. But at your age (and mine) one

would think we would have outgrow it.


Here's just a partial list of the names Krause has called posters he

Crap-for-Brains
Turd
racist pig
Eat me
sh*thead
ball-less.
Turdmonger
Worthless
twerp
slime-filled
sour old failure
dumbf*ch
a**hole
peabrain
little sh*t
a puke.
dumb turds
dirtbags
idiots
numnutz
obsessed a**hole
dummy
suck puppet
trashman
drippynose
dimwit
dipstick
snarky asshole
dip****
flaming ass
dirtball
Liar
fuxked up p.o.s.
rip****
little ****
know-it-all asshole
Reggieturd.

On Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:51:43 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/1/13 7:11 PM, Eisboch wrote:





"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message

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What is harsh but true is what Dick has said about harry lately. Got him

pinned for exactly the loser he is...



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It's not my goal to pin anybody. That makes me as bad as those I

complain about and I plead guilty occasionally. Sometimes I get tired

of people who make statements that I know to be false that are intended

to disparage people they don't even know.



Many of us have posted things here in the heat of debate exchanges that

we later probably regret. But not Harry. Virtually everything he

posts, he means and it's done for a purpose. He seems to get a perverse

delight in such. I usually try to maintain a civil attitude for the

most part but lately he's been ****ing me off.



Examples:



Somebody here (forget who) recently made a comment about John suggesting

that he may be a recovering alcoholic. Didn't say he *was*. Just

suggested that maybe he was. It was uncalled for and obviously the

poster has absolutely no idea if it is true or not.



Harry liked that of course, picked up on it and within the hour was

commenting on John's alcoholism, as if it was a proven fact.

That's the crap that gets me ****ed off sometimes. Cute but transparent.



Then there's his endless social commentary and comments on the status of

minorities, the poor and the disenfranchised. If others don't see it

his way, they are obviously either racist or "republi-trash". Yet, in

another thread about building permits, etc., Harry went out of his way

to make sure we all are aware that he lives in a very desirable area

with fine restaurants, stringent building codes and future development

statutes that are intended to restrict those who may wish to build and

move in. I think Harry would serve humanity better if he moved to

Detroit and became a community organizer rather that call people names

on a goofy newsgroup.



Harry blames everyone else for the demise of rec.boats as a useful

newsgroup, yet he is by far the biggest contributor to it's decline.

Just ask him. It has been his goal and he delights in yanking your chain.







You do go on, and yet you never try to castigate your good buddy here.

Mildly interesting.



We live in a nice area, but it certainly isn't the locale of the "super

rich." There are only a couple of expensive restaurants around here, the

building codes are ordinary but enforced, but the zoning is stringent to

maintain a semi-rural atmosphere outside of the commercial areas, and

there are no statutes to restrict anyone from moving in. The local

impact fee, as I mentioned, may or may not still be in effect, but

Gregg's area has a much higher one.



I think it is possible Herring is an alcoholic in recovery. If he is,

there's nothing wrong with that. Recovery means you are controlling the

illness, and it isn't controlling you. And I surely think those

Republicans who so obviously hate the poor, minorities and the

disenfranchised are Republic-trash. Absolutely.



Oh, I did live in Birmingham, Michigan, a suburb of Detroit, and I

worked in downtown Detroit. I also worked a full year in Chicago for an

organization run by...Saul Alinsky. When I was hired by the teachers

union, I hired Alinsky to come to a conference of state teacher leaders

in New York to put on presentations on how to use the system, a task at

which Alinsky was unsurpassed.



You mean *this* Saul Alinsky?

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2314

On 8/1/13 10:04 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 21:33:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/1/13 9:14 PM, Wayne.B wrote:

Just about everything you need to know about Harry can be found right
he

Ohhh...the bankster speaketh.

====

Just about everything we to know about you can be found right
he

Shouldn't you be out stalking half-naked women in bikinis so you can
take sneaky photos of them from a few hundred yards away? That, at
least, is something useful and potentially interesting.

Have a nice day, bankster.

On 8/2/13 12:31 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:51:43 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/1/13 7:11 PM, Eisboch wrote:





"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message

...





What is harsh but true is what Dick has said about harry lately. Got him

pinned for exactly the loser he is...



---------------------------------------



It's not my goal to pin anybody. That makes me as bad as those I

complain about and I plead guilty occasionally. Sometimes I get tired

of people who make statements that I know to be false that are intended

to disparage people they don't even know.



Many of us have posted things here in the heat of debate exchanges that

we later probably regret. But not Harry. Virtually everything he

posts, he means and it's done for a purpose. He seems to get a perverse

delight in such. I usually try to maintain a civil attitude for the

most part but lately he's been ****ing me off.



Examples:



Somebody here (forget who) recently made a comment about John suggesting

that he may be a recovering alcoholic. Didn't say he *was*. Just

suggested that maybe he was. It was uncalled for and obviously the

poster has absolutely no idea if it is true or not.



Harry liked that of course, picked up on it and within the hour was

commenting on John's alcoholism, as if it was a proven fact.

That's the crap that gets me ****ed off sometimes. Cute but transparent.



Then there's his endless social commentary and comments on the status of

minorities, the poor and the disenfranchised. If others don't see it

his way, they are obviously either racist or "republi-trash". Yet, in

another thread about building permits, etc., Harry went out of his way

to make sure we all are aware that he lives in a very desirable area

with fine restaurants, stringent building codes and future development

statutes that are intended to restrict those who may wish to build and

move in. I think Harry would serve humanity better if he moved to

Detroit and became a community organizer rather that call people names

on a goofy newsgroup.



Harry blames everyone else for the demise of rec.boats as a useful

newsgroup, yet he is by far the biggest contributor to it's decline.

Just ask him. It has been his goal and he delights in yanking your chain.







You do go on, and yet you never try to castigate your good buddy here.

Mildly interesting.



We live in a nice area, but it certainly isn't the locale of the "super

rich." There are only a couple of expensive restaurants around here, the

building codes are ordinary but enforced, but the zoning is stringent to

maintain a semi-rural atmosphere outside of the commercial areas, and

there are no statutes to restrict anyone from moving in. The local

impact fee, as I mentioned, may or may not still be in effect, but

Gregg's area has a much higher one.



I think it is possible Herring is an alcoholic in recovery. If he is,

there's nothing wrong with that. Recovery means you are controlling the

illness, and it isn't controlling you. And I surely think those

Republicans who so obviously hate the poor, minorities and the

disenfranchised are Republic-trash. Absolutely.



Oh, I did live in Birmingham, Michigan, a suburb of Detroit, and I

worked in downtown Detroit. I also worked a full year in Chicago for an

organization run by...Saul Alinsky. When I was hired by the teachers

union, I hired Alinsky to come to a conference of state teacher leaders

in New York to put on presentations on how to use the system, a task at

which Alinsky was unsurpassed.



You mean *this* Saul Alinsky?

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2314



The very same. The funny thing is that Saul was far less a radical than
the elected creeps and non-elected creeps who run today's Republican
party. Saul's goal was to empower the powerless. The Republican credo
today is to "unempower" the powerless and concentrate all the wealth in
the pockets of the rich and powerful. Saul, a Russian Jew and a
patriotic socialist, understood and appreciated the teachings of Jesus.
Today's Republican hierarchy is more like the Roman aristocracy.

On Friday, August 2, 2013 4:15:27 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/2/13 12:31 AM, Tim wrote:

On Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:51:43 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 8/1/13 7:11 PM, Eisboch wrote:











"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message



...











What is harsh but true is what Dick has said about harry lately. Got him



pinned for exactly the loser he is...







---------------------------------------







It's not my goal to pin anybody. That makes me as bad as those I



complain about and I plead guilty occasionally. Sometimes I get tired



of people who make statements that I know to be false that are intended



to disparage people they don't even know.







Many of us have posted things here in the heat of debate exchanges that



we later probably regret. But not Harry. Virtually everything he



posts, he means and it's done for a purpose. He seems to get a perverse



delight in such. I usually try to maintain a civil attitude for the



most part but lately he's been ****ing me off.







Examples:







Somebody here (forget who) recently made a comment about John suggesting



that he may be a recovering alcoholic. Didn't say he *was*. Just



suggested that maybe he was. It was uncalled for and obviously the



poster has absolutely no idea if it is true or not.







Harry liked that of course, picked up on it and within the hour was



commenting on John's alcoholism, as if it was a proven fact.



That's the crap that gets me ****ed off sometimes. Cute but transparent.







Then there's his endless social commentary and comments on the status of



minorities, the poor and the disenfranchised. If others don't see it



his way, they are obviously either racist or "republi-trash". Yet, in



another thread about building permits, etc., Harry went out of his way



to make sure we all are aware that he lives in a very desirable area



with fine restaurants, stringent building codes and future development



statutes that are intended to restrict those who may wish to build and



move in. I think Harry would serve humanity better if he moved to



Detroit and became a community organizer rather that call people names



on a goofy newsgroup.







Harry blames everyone else for the demise of rec.boats as a useful



newsgroup, yet he is by far the biggest contributor to it's decline.



Just ask him. It has been his goal and he delights in yanking your chain.















You do go on, and yet you never try to castigate your good buddy here.



Mildly interesting.







We live in a nice area, but it certainly isn't the locale of the "super



rich." There are only a couple of expensive restaurants around here, the



building codes are ordinary but enforced, but the zoning is stringent to



maintain a semi-rural atmosphere outside of the commercial areas, and



there are no statutes to restrict anyone from moving in. The local



impact fee, as I mentioned, may or may not still be in effect, but



Gregg's area has a much higher one.







I think it is possible Herring is an alcoholic in recovery. If he is,



there's nothing wrong with that. Recovery means you are controlling the



illness, and it isn't controlling you. And I surely think those



Republicans who so obviously hate the poor, minorities and the



disenfranchised are Republic-trash. Absolutely.







Oh, I did live in Birmingham, Michigan, a suburb of Detroit, and I



worked in downtown Detroit. I also worked a full year in Chicago for an



organization run by...Saul Alinsky. When I was hired by the teachers



union, I hired Alinsky to come to a conference of state teacher leaders



in New York to put on presentations on how to use the system, a task at



which Alinsky was unsurpassed.







You mean *this* Saul Alinsky?



http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2314







The very same. The funny thing is that Saul was far less a radical than

the elected creeps and non-elected creeps who run today's Republican

party. Saul's goal was to empower the powerless. The Republican credo

today is to "unempower" the powerless and concentrate all the wealth in

the pockets of the rich and powerful. Saul, a Russian Jew and a

patriotic socialist, understood and appreciated the teachings of Jesus.

Today's Republican hierarchy is more like the Roman aristocracy.


He was a communist that also supported anarchy, Harry.

On 8/2/13 7:29 AM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, August 2, 2013 4:15:27 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

You mean *this* Saul Alinsky?



http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2314







The very same. The funny thing is that Saul was far less a radical than

the elected creeps and non-elected creeps who run today's Republican

party. Saul's goal was to empower the powerless. The Republican credo

today is to "unempower" the powerless and concentrate all the wealth in

the pockets of the rich and powerful. Saul, a Russian Jew and a

patriotic socialist, understood and appreciated the teachings of Jesus.

Today's Republican hierarchy is more like the Roman aristocracy.


He was a communist that also supported anarchy, Harry.


Saul wasn't a communist, and said so anytime he was asked, as in this
quote I swiped from wiki:

Alinsky did not join political parties. When asked during an interview
whether he ever considered becoming a Communist party member, he replied:

Not at any time. I've never joined any organization—not even the ones
I've organized myself. I prize my own independence too much. And
philosophically, I could never accept any rigid dogma or ideology,
whether it's Christianity or Marxism. One of the most important things
in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner
doubt as to whether you're right.' If you don't have that, if you think
you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire,
humorless and intellectually constipated. The greatest crimes in history
have been perpetrated by such religious and political and racial
fanatics, from the persecutions of the Inquisition on down to Communist
purges and Nazi genocide.

He wasn't an anarchist, either. But he did help the disenfranchised
shake up and change the white power structure, which was a good thing
then and is a good thing now.

When I brought him to the teachers' convention in NY State, a number of
members loudly protested. Outside of NYC at the time, the state's
teachers and their unions were fairly conservative. They thought Alinsky
was too radical.

"That's the whole point," I told them.

Right after that late summer meeting, somewhere between 50 and 60 local
teachers unions called strikes, even though they were illegal. Made me
proud!

In article ,
says...

On 8/1/2013 4:23 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 8/1/2013 3:56 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/1/13 3:04 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


That is a ****ing lie. The last time you took off, just a few weeks back
we all (except don) stopped the ****... you and don picked it ups as
soon as you came back...

You are a psychotic, and get the attention you do from your "buds" here
so your fellow righties can pull your strings and the few of the rest of
us who read your posts can get our giggles from the manifestations of
your mental illness. Harsh but true.

You would get your giggles from another's mental illness? How sick is that?

What is harsh but true is what Dick has said about harry lately. Got him
pinned for exactly the loser he is...

I'm going to bet that's not what Richard believes or said.

In article ,
says...

On 8/1/2013 7:11 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...


What is harsh but true is what Dick has said about harry lately. Got him
pinned for exactly the loser he is...

---------------------------------------

It's not my goal to pin anybody. That makes me as bad as those I
complain about and I plead guilty occasionally. Sometimes I get tired
of people who make statements that I know to be false that are intended
to disparage people they don't even know.

Many of us have posted things here in the heat of debate exchanges that
we later probably regret. But not Harry. Virtually everything he
posts, he means and it's done for a purpose. He seems to get a perverse
delight in such. I usually try to maintain a civil attitude for the
most part but lately he's been ****ing me off.

Examples:

Somebody here (forget who) recently made a comment about John suggesting
that he may be a recovering alcoholic. Didn't say he *was*. Just
suggested that maybe he was. It was uncalled for and obviously the
poster has absolutely no idea if it is true or not.

Harry liked that of course, picked up on it and within the hour was
commenting on John's alcoholism, as if it was a proven fact.
That's the crap that gets me ****ed off sometimes. Cute but transparent.

Then there's his endless social commentary and comments on the status of
minorities, the poor and the disenfranchised. If others don't see it
his way, they are obviously either racist or "republi-trash". Yet, in
another thread about building permits, etc., Harry went out of his way
to make sure we all are aware that he lives in a very desirable area
with fine restaurants, stringent building codes and future development
statutes that are intended to restrict those who may wish to build and
move in. I think Harry would serve humanity better if he moved to
Detroit and became a community organizer rather that call people names
on a goofy newsgroup.

Harry blames everyone else for the demise of rec.boats as a useful
newsgroup, yet he is by far the biggest contributor to it's decline.
Just ask him. It has been his goal and he delights in yanking your chain.



Yeah, but I don't get yanked so easily any more

Changed your meds did they?

On 8/2/2013 12:04 AM, wrote:


Here's just a partial list of the names Krause has called posters he

Crap-for-Brains
Turd
racist pig
Eat me
sh*thead
ball-less.
Turdmonger
Worthless
twerp
slime-filled
sour old failure
dumbf*ch
a**hole
peabrain
little sh*t
a puke.
dumb turds
dirtbags
idiots
numnutz
obsessed a**hole
dummy
suck puppet
trashman
drippynose
dimwit
dipstick
snarky asshole
dip****
flaming ass
dirtball
Liar
fuxked up p.o.s.
rip****
little ****
know-it-all asshole
Reggieturd.

Well, what do you expect? He spent seven or more years in kollige
perfecting his communication skills and building his vocabulary. Can you
think of any other highly educated individual who would sit at his
keyboard for fifteen years and suffer the abuse that he absorbs on a
daily basis? He's quite a guy.