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True North[_2_] July 29th 13 01:30 PM

Sunday cruise
 
Wife, dog a day I took the Legend out for a tour of the North West Arm and Halifax Harbour yesterday.
It was a nice pleasant 3 hour cruise.
Looks like I may not need that electric powered trailer dolly after all.
Wife and I are able to unhook the 2000# rig on the street and with a bit of a run are able to push it up from the gutter to the sidewalk and then down the driveway.

John H[_2_] July 29th 13 01:42 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Wife, dog a day I took the Legend out for a tour of the North West Arm and Halifax Harbour yesterday.
It was a nice pleasant 3 hour cruise.
Looks like I may not need that electric powered trailer dolly after all.
Wife and I are able to unhook the 2000# rig on the street and with a bit of a run are able to push it up from the gutter to the sidewalk and then down the driveway.


That will work until one of you slips and gets badly hurt. Learn to back the trailer with the
Highlander.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

Hank©[_3_] July 29th 13 02:29 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On 7/29/2013 8:42 AM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Wife, dog a day I took the Legend out for a tour of the North West Arm and Halifax Harbour yesterday.
It was a nice pleasant 3 hour cruise.
Looks like I may not need that electric powered trailer dolly after all.
Wife and I are able to unhook the 2000# rig on the street and with a bit of a run are able to push it up from the gutter to the sidewalk and then down the driveway.


That will work until one of you slips and gets badly hurt. Learn to back the trailer with the
Highlander.

John (Gun Nut) H.

He's got backsy upsy phobia.

Wayne.B July 29th 13 02:33 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Wife and I are able to unhook the 2000# rig on the street and with a bit of a run are able to push it up from the gutter to the sidewalk and then down the driveway.


===

Glad to hear you had a nice cruise but the trailer procedure sounds a
bit dicey.

Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your
vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have
room to back it in.

F.O.A.D. July 29th 13 02:41 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On 7/29/13 9:33 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Wife and I are able to unhook the 2000# rig on the street and with a bit of a run are able to push it up from the gutter to the sidewalk and then down the driveway.


===

Glad to hear you had a nice cruise but the trailer procedure sounds a
bit dicey.

Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your
vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have
room to back it in.


It's a lot easier to pull a boat on a trailer straight out of a tight
parking space than it is to back that boat on a trailer back into a
tight parking space. I'm not familiar with the width or conditions of
Don's driveway and neither are you, and there may be circumstances that
make it more difficult than you surmise.

Perhaps on one of your next cruises to places you've been a million
times, you can expand that voyage up to Nova Scotia, have Don meet you
at a local marina, and then show him how perfectly you can back up his
rig in his driveway.

Make sure someone videotapes it.

True North[_2_] July 29th 13 03:11 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Monday, 29 July 2013 10:33:13 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Wife and I are able to unhook the 2000# rig on the street and with a bit of a run are able to push it up from the gutter to the sidewalk and then down the driveway.




===



Glad to hear you had a nice cruise but the trailer procedure sounds a

bit dicey.



Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your

vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have

room to back it in.



I can..and do on occasion.
I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.
It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.

True North[_2_] July 29th 13 03:12 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Monday, 29 July 2013 10:41:24 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/29/13 9:33 AM, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT), True North


wrote:




Wife and I are able to unhook the 2000# rig on the street and with a bit of a run are able to push it up from the gutter to the sidewalk and then down the driveway.




===




Glad to hear you had a nice cruise but the trailer procedure sounds a


bit dicey.




Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your


vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have


room to back it in.






It's a lot easier to pull a boat on a trailer straight out of a tight

parking space than it is to back that boat on a trailer back into a

tight parking space. I'm not familiar with the width or conditions of

Don's driveway and neither are you, and there may be circumstances that

make it more difficult than you surmise.



Perhaps on one of your next cruises to places you've been a million

times, you can expand that voyage up to Nova Scotia, have Don meet you

at a local marina, and then show him how perfectly you can back up his

rig in his driveway.



Make sure someone videotapes it.


Yup.. and if anyone is parked opposite my driveway, I can't pull out without dropping one of the trailer wheels over a curb.

Eisboch[_9_] July 29th 13 03:41 PM

Sunday cruise
 


"True North" wrote in message
...



I can..and do on occasion.
I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of
course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my
driveway.
It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet
narrow.

---------------------------------------

My trailer backing skills improved dramatically after I learned to use
the side mirrors only .... no more turning your head to look out the
back window.
It was necessary when we had the fifth wheel and once I practiced
enough it became instinctive rather than having to think about which
way to turn the steering wheel. I use mirrors only on all size
trailers now.



F.O.A.D. July 29th 13 03:45 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On 7/29/13 10:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"True North" wrote in message
...



I can..and do on occasion.
I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course
depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.
It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.

---------------------------------------

My trailer backing skills improved dramatically after I learned to use
the side mirrors only .... no more turning your head to look out the
back window.
It was necessary when we had the fifth wheel and once I practiced
enough it became instinctive rather than having to think about which
way to turn the steering wheel. I use mirrors only on all size trailers
now.




I've been backing up vehicles with boat trailers attached for about 55
years. Every so often I encounter a backup situation that presents
difficult, unusual circumstances, so I'm not going to say that I can
back up a rig perfectly every time. My saving grace has always been that
I back up verrrrry slooooowly.

Wayne.B July 29th 13 04:03 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:12:21 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Yup.. and if anyone is parked opposite my driveway, I can't pull out without dropping one of the trailer wheels over a curb.


===

Obviously a tight spot and/or a narrow driveway. That said, if you
can drive it out over the curb you can probably learn to back it in
over the curb, just takes patience and practice. You could put a
small plank against the curb to act as a ramp. The manual procedure
you describe sounds risky to me.

One of the things I did when learning to back my old 24 footer was to
take the boat to an open space like an empty parking lot and work on
getting the angles right.

iBoaterer[_3_] July 29th 13 04:04 PM

Sunday cruise
 
In article ,
says...

"True North" wrote in message
...



I can..and do on occasion.
I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of
course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my
driveway.
It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet
narrow.

---------------------------------------

My trailer backing skills improved dramatically after I learned to use
the side mirrors only .... no more turning your head to look out the
back window.
It was necessary when we had the fifth wheel and once I practiced
enough it became instinctive rather than having to think about which
way to turn the steering wheel. I use mirrors only on all size
trailers now.


YES~! My cousin was a long haul truck driver, and he was adamant about
using mirrors only, no matter what size trailer.

John H[_2_] July 29th 13 04:09 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:12:21 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 29 July 2013 10:41:24 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/29/13 9:33 AM, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT), True North


wrote:




Wife and I are able to unhook the 2000# rig on the street and with a bit of a run are able to push it up from the gutter to the sidewalk and then down the driveway.




===




Glad to hear you had a nice cruise but the trailer procedure sounds a


bit dicey.




Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your


vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have


room to back it in.






It's a lot easier to pull a boat on a trailer straight out of a tight

parking space than it is to back that boat on a trailer back into a

tight parking space. I'm not familiar with the width or conditions of

Don's driveway and neither are you, and there may be circumstances that

make it more difficult than you surmise.



Perhaps on one of your next cruises to places you've been a million

times, you can expand that voyage up to Nova Scotia, have Don meet you

at a local marina, and then show him how perfectly you can back up his

rig in his driveway.



Make sure someone videotapes it.


Yup.. and if anyone is parked opposite my driveway, I can't pull out without dropping one of the trailer wheels over a curb.


I can't get my trailer (33' long) either in or out of the driveway without going over a curb. I have
a couple 3"x6" chunks of wood, each about three feet long, that I put in the gutter before I back in
or pull out. That let's the tires get a head start on the curb. Works like a charm.

Regardless of what Harry says, you should be able to back that little boat trailer into your
driveway. Don't take his excuses and make them your rationale for getting you or your wife hurt.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

Hank©[_3_] July 29th 13 04:31 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On 7/29/2013 10:11 AM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 29 July 2013 10:33:13 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Wife and I are able to unhook the 2000# rig on the street and with a bit of a run are able to push it up from the gutter to the sidewalk and then down the driveway.




===



Glad to hear you had a nice cruise but the trailer procedure sounds a

bit dicey.



Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your

vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have

room to back it in.



I can..and do on occasion.
I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.
It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.

You need to widen your driveway at least 2 feet.

iBoaterer[_3_] July 29th 13 05:33 PM

Sunday cruise
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:12:21 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 29 July 2013 10:41:24 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/29/13 9:33 AM, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Wife and I are able to unhook the 2000# rig on the street and with a bit of a run are able to push it up from the gutter to the sidewalk and then down the driveway.



===



Glad to hear you had a nice cruise but the trailer procedure sounds a

bit dicey.



Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your

vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have

room to back it in.





It's a lot easier to pull a boat on a trailer straight out of a tight

parking space than it is to back that boat on a trailer back into a

tight parking space. I'm not familiar with the width or conditions of

Don's driveway and neither are you, and there may be circumstances that

make it more difficult than you surmise.



Perhaps on one of your next cruises to places you've been a million

times, you can expand that voyage up to Nova Scotia, have Don meet you

at a local marina, and then show him how perfectly you can back up his

rig in his driveway.



Make sure someone videotapes it.


Yup.. and if anyone is parked opposite my driveway, I can't pull out without dropping one of the trailer wheels over a curb.


I can't get my trailer (33' long) either in or out of the driveway without going over a curb. I have
a couple 3"x6" chunks of wood, each about three feet long, that I put in the gutter before I back in
or pull out. That let's the tires get a head start on the curb. Works like a charm.


Why do you need to "get a head start on the curb" if you can do it
"without dropping one of the trailer wheels over a curb"?




Wayne.B July 29th 13 06:35 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:33:06 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Why do you need to "get a head start on the curb" if you can do it
"without dropping one of the trailer wheels over a curb"?


===

The problem is with backing up over the curb. The curb by itself
presents a fair amount of resistance which makes it difficult to back
slowly and evenly. The planks act as a bit of a ramp to ease the
wheels up and over.

Wayne.B July 29th 13 06:37 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your

vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have

room to back it in.



I can..and do on occasion.
I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.
It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.


===

You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in
a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can
see them in your mirrors.

True North[_2_] July 29th 13 06:39 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Monday, 29 July 2013 13:33:06 UTC-3, iBoaterer wrote:


Why do you need to "get a head start on the curb" if you can do it

"without dropping one of the trailer wheels over a curb"?



Around here the streets are graded to be a bit higher in the center, sloping off to the gutter/curb and then you have a bit of an incline up to the sidewalk and on to your driveway.
We get a lot of rain here and I suppose that helps it run off to the storm sewers.
If I didn't get a head start from the middle of the street, I'd be pushing 2000 lbs uphill from a standing start.
A few years ago.. maybe.. now, I like to conserve my strength for where it's really needed.

True North[_2_] July 29th 13 06:46 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:37:58 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your




vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have




room to back it in.






I can..and do on occasion.


I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.


It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.




===



You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in

a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can

see them in your mirrors.



I can always see one side in the mirrors... the vehicle ends up at such an angle to the trailer that the other side is a dead zone.
Ad to that.. as soon as I start, cars always come around the corner trying to get by. This adds to my feeling of needing to get the backing-up done quickly and efficiently.

[email protected] July 29th 13 06:59 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Monday, July 29, 2013 12:33:06 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:


I can't get my trailer (33' long) either in or out of the driveway without going over a curb. I have


a couple 3"x6" chunks of wood, each about three feet long, that I put in the gutter before I back in


or pull out. That let's the tires get a head start on the curb. Works like a charm.




Why do you need to "get a head start on the curb" if you can do it

"without dropping one of the trailer wheels over a curb"?


Read it again...retard.

iBoaterer[_3_] July 29th 13 07:50 PM

Sunday cruise
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:33:06 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Why do you need to "get a head start on the curb" if you can do it
"without dropping one of the trailer wheels over a curb"?


===

The problem is with backing up over the curb. The curb by itself
presents a fair amount of resistance which makes it difficult to back
slowly and evenly. The planks act as a bit of a ramp to ease the
wheels up and over.


But John said he never has to go over the curb!

Hank©[_3_] July 29th 13 07:58 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On 7/29/2013 1:46 PM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:37:58 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your




vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have




room to back it in.






I can..and do on occasion.


I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.


It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.




===



You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in

a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can

see them in your mirrors.



I can always see one side in the mirrors... the vehicle ends up at such an angle to the trailer that the other side is a dead zone.
Ad to that.. as soon as I start, cars always come around the corner trying to get by. This adds to my feeling of needing to get the backing-up done quickly and efficiently.


Have you given any thought to storing your boat where everyone else in a
similar situation as yours store their boats, a storage facility?

John H[_2_] July 29th 13 08:10 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:50:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:33:06 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Why do you need to "get a head start on the curb" if you can do it
"without dropping one of the trailer wheels over a curb"?


===

The problem is with backing up over the curb. The curb by itself
presents a fair amount of resistance which makes it difficult to back
slowly and evenly. The planks act as a bit of a ramp to ease the
wheels up and over.


But John said he never has to go over the curb!


Go back and re-read, Kevin.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H[_2_] July 29th 13 08:11 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:46:21 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:37:58 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your




vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have




room to back it in.






I can..and do on occasion.


I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.


It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.




===



You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in

a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can

see them in your mirrors.



I can always see one side in the mirrors... the vehicle ends up at such an angle to the trailer that the other side is a dead zone.
Ad to that.. as soon as I start, cars always come around the corner trying to get by. This adds to my feeling of needing to get the backing-up done quickly and efficiently.


Once you learn how to do it, it'll be pretty quick.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

JustWaitAFrekinMinute July 29th 13 08:13 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On 7/29/2013 1:35 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:33:06 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Why do you need to "get a head start on the curb" if you can do it
"without dropping one of the trailer wheels over a curb"?


===

The problem is with backing up over the curb. The curb by itself
presents a fair amount of resistance which makes it difficult to back
slowly and evenly. The planks act as a bit of a ramp to ease the
wheels up and over.


Just don't understand why he doesn't go get a frekin' dolly before
someone gets hurt or he ****s up a neighbors property.. He has money to
blow, looking at cameras, buying boats, cars, home improvements etc...
wtf? I guess his wife or the neighbors cars aren't worth a bit of an
investment when you gotta' have the bestest new ipad.... snerk

My kids helmet $700
chest protector $200
Kidney brace $150
Neck Brace $500
Knee braces $650
Pants 140
shirt 75
gloves 40
goggles 75
Riding Boots $600

Last season we drove hours one day and didn't race because we were
missing a key piece of gear (knee braces) and wrote it off as a bad race
weekend. Watched some great racing and went home...

I have a 6 year old mp3 player, 4 year old sneakers, and a decant truck,
a nice guitar.. I am good...


So douche bag.. The boat was thousands, cameras same, cars, same, home
improvements, same.. whatever other toys you are buying we are not
hearing about..... same....Buy your ****ing wife a hauler so she doesn't
end up dead, a widow, or just embarrassed to be seen with you in the
neighborhood....

JustWaitAFrekinMinute July 29th 13 08:13 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On 7/29/2013 1:35 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:33:06 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Why do you need to "get a head start on the curb" if you can do it
"without dropping one of the trailer wheels over a curb"?


===

The problem is with backing up over the curb. The curb by itself
presents a fair amount of resistance which makes it difficult to back
slowly and evenly. The planks act as a bit of a ramp to ease the
wheels up and over.


.... and what I mean is spend two ****ing grand if you have to you
selfish prick...

JustWaitAFrekinMinute July 29th 13 08:19 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On 7/29/2013 1:46 PM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:37:58 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your




vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have




room to back it in.






I can..and do on occasion.


I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.


It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.




===



You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in

a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can

see them in your mirrors.



I can always see one side in the mirrors... the vehicle ends up at such an angle to the trailer that the other side is a dead zone.
Ad to that.. as soon as I start, cars always come around the corner trying to get by. This adds to my feeling of needing to get the backing-up done quickly and efficiently.


A responsible boat owner and neighbor (um... ) would just buy all of the
stuff needed to own a boat there... That includes a motor, life jackets,
a trailer with proper lighting, and a ****ing dolly if you are
endangering your family and neighbors with your boat... read my other
post. If you are gonna' do the sport, buy the gear, period. Anything
less is irresponsible and selfish.. If you can't afford the gear, find
another hobby... period.. That is what a responsible member of society does.

iBoaterer[_3_] July 29th 13 08:50 PM

Sunday cruise
 
In article ,
says...

On 7/29/2013 1:35 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:33:06 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Why do you need to "get a head start on the curb" if you can do it
"without dropping one of the trailer wheels over a curb"?


===

The problem is with backing up over the curb. The curb by itself
presents a fair amount of resistance which makes it difficult to back
slowly and evenly. The planks act as a bit of a ramp to ease the
wheels up and over.


Just don't understand why he doesn't go get a frekin' dolly before
someone gets hurt or he ****s up a neighbors property.. He has money to
blow, looking at cameras, buying boats, cars, home improvements etc...
wtf? I guess his wife or the neighbors cars aren't worth a bit of an
investment when you gotta' have the bestest new ipad.... snerk

My kids helmet $700
chest protector $200
Kidney brace $150
Neck Brace $500
Knee braces $650
Pants 140
shirt 75
gloves 40
goggles 75
Riding Boots $600

Last season we drove hours one day and didn't race because we were
missing a key piece of gear (knee braces) and wrote it off as a bad race
weekend. Watched some great racing and went home...

I have a 6 year old mp3 player, 4 year old sneakers, and a decant truck,
a nice guitar.. I am good...


So douche bag.. The boat was thousands, cameras same, cars, same, home
improvements, same.. whatever other toys you are buying we are not
hearing about..... same....Buy your ****ing wife a hauler so she doesn't
end up dead, a widow, or just embarrassed to be seen with you in the
neighborhood....


Cool story, bro!

iBoaterer[_3_] July 29th 13 08:50 PM

Sunday cruise
 
In article ,
says...

On 7/29/2013 1:35 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:33:06 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Why do you need to "get a head start on the curb" if you can do it
"without dropping one of the trailer wheels over a curb"?


===

The problem is with backing up over the curb. The curb by itself
presents a fair amount of resistance which makes it difficult to back
slowly and evenly. The planks act as a bit of a ramp to ease the
wheels up and over.


... and what I mean is spend two ****ing grand if you have to you
selfish prick...


Man, your jawbone's out of whack today, eh?

iBoaterer[_3_] July 29th 13 08:51 PM

Sunday cruise
 
In article ,
says...

On 7/29/2013 1:46 PM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:37:58 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your



vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have



room to back it in.





I can..and do on occasion.

I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.

It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.



===



You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in

a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can

see them in your mirrors.



I can always see one side in the mirrors... the vehicle ends up at such an angle to the trailer that the other side is a dead zone.
Ad to that.. as soon as I start, cars always come around the corner trying to get by. This adds to my feeling of needing to get the backing-up done quickly and efficiently.


A responsible boat owner and neighbor (um... ) would just buy all of the
stuff needed to own a boat there... That includes a motor, life jackets,
a trailer with proper lighting, and a ****ing dolly if you are
endangering your family and neighbors with your boat... read my other
post. If you are gonna' do the sport, buy the gear, period. Anything
less is irresponsible and selfish.. If you can't afford the gear, find
another hobby... period.. That is what a responsible member of society does.


Man oh, man, that jawbone of yours must be giving you fits today, you're
insane rants are funny as hell!!!

True North[_2_] July 29th 13 09:02 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Monday, 29 July 2013 16:19:36 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 7/29/2013 1:46 PM, True North wrote:

On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:37:58 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:


On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North




wrote:








Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your








vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have








room to back it in.












I can..and do on occasion.




I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.




It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.








===








You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in




a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can




see them in your mirrors.






I can always see one side in the mirrors... the vehicle ends up at such an angle to the trailer that the other side is a dead zone.


Ad to that.. as soon as I start, cars always come around the corner trying to get by. This adds to my feeling of needing to get the backing-up done quickly and efficiently.






A responsible boat owner and neighbor (um... ) would just buy all of the

stuff needed to own a boat there... That includes a motor, life jackets,

a trailer with proper lighting, and a ****ing dolly if you are

endangering your family and neighbors with your boat... read my other

post. If you are gonna' do the sport, buy the gear, period. Anything

less is irresponsible and selfish.. If you can't afford the gear, find

another hobby... period.. That is what a responsible member of society does.




What the 'ell??
This rant is just like the one last year when I debated pulling a 2000 lb load with a vehicle rated for only 1500 lbs.
At least you haven't threatened to kill me yet if I injured one of your family...as you did last year.

Maybe it would be better for society as a whole if I donated the 'electric dolly money' to a CT oral surgeon so you can have your jawbone re-broken and straightened out.
You are one crazy MF!

F.O.A.D. July 29th 13 09:51 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On 7/29/13 3:13 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


My kids helmet $700
chest protector $200
Kidney brace $150
Neck Brace $500
Knee braces $650
Pants 140
shirt 75
gloves 40
goggles 75
Riding Boots $600



You forgot the expenditures for the kid's hair coloring, tattoos, and
body piercings.


iBoaterer[_3_] July 29th 13 09:59 PM

Sunday cruise
 
In article ,
says...

On 7/29/13 3:13 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


My kids helmet $700
chest protector $200
Kidney brace $150
Neck Brace $500
Knee braces $650
Pants 140
shirt 75
gloves 40
goggles 75
Riding Boots $600



You forgot the expenditures for the kid's hair coloring, tattoos, and
body piercings.


Wonder if he's as safe with what needles they stick in their various
body parts for piercings as he is for other stuff. And the prices above
is pure horse****!

http://www.btosports.com/c/Protective

I need to go into a business selling Scotty stuff!!


iBoaterer[_3_] July 29th 13 10:00 PM

Sunday cruise
 
In article ,
says...

On Monday, 29 July 2013 16:19:36 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 7/29/2013 1:46 PM, True North wrote:

On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:37:58 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:


On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North




wrote:








Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your








vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have








room to back it in.












I can..and do on occasion.




I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.




It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.








===








You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in




a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can




see them in your mirrors.






I can always see one side in the mirrors... the vehicle ends up at such an angle to the trailer that the other side is a dead zone.


Ad to that.. as soon as I start, cars always come around the corner trying to get by. This adds to my feeling of needing to get the backing-up done quickly and efficiently.






A responsible boat owner and neighbor (um... ) would just buy all of the

stuff needed to own a boat there... That includes a motor, life jackets,

a trailer with proper lighting, and a ****ing dolly if you are

endangering your family and neighbors with your boat... read my other

post. If you are gonna' do the sport, buy the gear, period. Anything

less is irresponsible and selfish.. If you can't afford the gear, find

another hobby... period.. That is what a responsible member of society does.




What the 'ell??
This rant is just like the one last year when I debated pulling a 2000 lb load with a vehicle rated for only 1500 lbs.
At least you haven't threatened to kill me yet if I injured one of your family...as you did last year.

Maybe it would be better for society as a whole if I donated the 'electric dolly money' to a CT oral surgeon so you can have your jawbone re-broken and straightened out.
You are one crazy MF!


His jawbone is way out of whack today!!!

F.O.A.D. July 29th 13 10:02 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On 7/29/13 5:00 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Monday, 29 July 2013 16:19:36 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 7/29/2013 1:46 PM, True North wrote:

On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:37:58 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North



wrote:







Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your







vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have







room to back it in.











I can..and do on occasion.



I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.



It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.







===







You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in



a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can



see them in your mirrors.





I can always see one side in the mirrors... the vehicle ends up at such an angle to the trailer that the other side is a dead zone.

Ad to that.. as soon as I start, cars always come around the corner trying to get by. This adds to my feeling of needing to get the backing-up done quickly and efficiently.





A responsible boat owner and neighbor (um... ) would just buy all of the

stuff needed to own a boat there... That includes a motor, life jackets,

a trailer with proper lighting, and a ****ing dolly if you are

endangering your family and neighbors with your boat... read my other

post. If you are gonna' do the sport, buy the gear, period. Anything

less is irresponsible and selfish.. If you can't afford the gear, find

another hobby... period.. That is what a responsible member of society does.




What the 'ell??
This rant is just like the one last year when I debated pulling a 2000 lb load with a vehicle rated for only 1500 lbs.
At least you haven't threatened to kill me yet if I injured one of your family...as you did last year.

Maybe it would be better for society as a whole if I donated the 'electric dolly money' to a CT oral surgeon so you can have your jawbone re-broken and straightened out.
You are one crazy MF!


His jawbone is way out of whack today!!!



Did we ever find out which junior high school girl leaned over to smack
Snotty in the mouth?

John H[_2_] July 29th 13 10:05 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:11:43 -0400, John H wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:46:21 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:37:58 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your



vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have



room to back it in.





I can..and do on occasion.

I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.

It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.



===



You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in

a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can

see them in your mirrors.



I can always see one side in the mirrors... the vehicle ends up at such an angle to the trailer that the other side is a dead zone.
Ad to that.. as soon as I start, cars always come around the corner trying to get by. This adds to my feeling of needing to get the backing-up done quickly and efficiently.


Once you learn how to do it, it'll be pretty quick.

John (Gun Nut) H.



~~crickets~~

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

JustWaitAFrekinMinute July 30th 13 04:41 AM

Sunday cruise
 
On 7/29/2013 3:11 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:46:21 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:37:58 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your



vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have



room to back it in.





I can..and do on occasion.

I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.

It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.



===



You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in

a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can

see them in your mirrors.



I can always see one side in the mirrors... the vehicle ends up at such an angle to the trailer that the other side is a dead zone.
Ad to that.. as soon as I start, cars always come around the corner trying to get by. This adds to my feeling of needing to get the backing-up done quickly and efficiently.


Once you learn how to do it, it'll be pretty quick.

John (Gun Nut) H.


I beg to differ John.. With the opposing inclines, and the curb to jump,
that corner becomes probably 4-5 times harder in my opinion. The
technique could be mastered but every time you hit it you would have to
get a running start and slam your trailer tire over the curb. I would
guess with my limo and truck driving experience I can probably back as
good or better than anybody here and I would not want to do that trick
every time I brought my boat home. Right now I have the opposite. A huge
incline up to the edge of the road and when the trailer tires make that
change it really changes the radius of the turn and ****s up the flow.
To do that over a curb.. well anyway... I would spend the money and get
a motorized dolly.. I mean, you don't go without lifejackets, oars,
flares, motor, etc.. the tools you need to do your hobby.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute July 30th 13 06:21 AM

Sunday cruise
 
On 7/29/2013 4:02 PM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 29 July 2013 16:19:36 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 7/29/2013 1:46 PM, True North wrote:

On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:37:58 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:


On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North




wrote:








Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your








vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have








room to back it in.












I can..and do on occasion.




I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.




It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.








===








You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in




a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can




see them in your mirrors.






I can always see one side in the mirrors... the vehicle ends up at such an angle to the trailer that the other side is a dead zone.


Ad to that.. as soon as I start, cars always come around the corner trying to get by. This adds to my feeling of needing to get the backing-up done quickly and efficiently.






A responsible boat owner and neighbor (um... ) would just buy all of the

stuff needed to own a boat there... That includes a motor, life jackets,

a trailer with proper lighting, and a ****ing dolly if you are

endangering your family and neighbors with your boat... read my other

post. If you are gonna' do the sport, buy the gear, period. Anything

less is irresponsible and selfish.. If you can't afford the gear, find

another hobby... period.. That is what a responsible member of society does.




What the 'ell??
This rant is just like the one last year when I debated pulling a 2000 lb load with a vehicle rated for only 1500 lbs.
At least you haven't threatened to kill me yet if I injured one of your family...as you did last year.

Maybe it would be better for society as a whole if I donated the 'electric dolly money' to a CT oral surgeon so you can have your jawbone re-broken and straightened out.
You are one crazy MF!


Don't cry donnie...

[email protected] July 30th 13 08:11 AM

Sunday cruise
 
On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:21:20 AM UTC-4, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:


Don't cry donnie...


I still think it's hilariously funny that the dumbass just cant back his Boat in his Driveway.


John H[_2_] July 30th 13 07:12 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 23:41:53 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 7/29/2013 3:11 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:46:21 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:37:58 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Why is it that you can't back the trailer into the driveway with your



vehicle? If you have space enough to pull it out, you should have



room to back it in.





I can..and do on occasion.

I just find it awkward.. hard to see where I'm backing to and of course depends on whether there are vehicles parked opposite my driveway.

It's a very narrow street and a very narrow driveway... 10 feet narrow.



===



You might find it helpful to put a few long stakes or bamboo poles in

a few strategic locations along the edge of the driveway so you can

see them in your mirrors.


I can always see one side in the mirrors... the vehicle ends up at such an angle to the trailer that the other side is a dead zone.
Ad to that.. as soon as I start, cars always come around the corner trying to get by. This adds to my feeling of needing to get the backing-up done quickly and efficiently.


Once you learn how to do it, it'll be pretty quick.

John (Gun Nut) H.


I beg to differ John.. With the opposing inclines, and the curb to jump,
that corner becomes probably 4-5 times harder in my opinion. The
technique could be mastered but every time you hit it you would have to
get a running start and slam your trailer tire over the curb. I would
guess with my limo and truck driving experience I can probably back as
good or better than anybody here and I would not want to do that trick
every time I brought my boat home. Right now I have the opposite. A huge
incline up to the edge of the road and when the trailer tires make that
change it really changes the radius of the turn and ****s up the flow.
To do that over a curb.. well anyway... I would spend the money and get
a motorized dolly.. I mean, you don't go without lifejackets, oars,
flares, motor, etc.. the tools you need to do your hobby.


The use of a couple 2x4s or 3x6s make a ramp for the curb. I would never try to 'hit' the curb with
a running start. I always put my 'ramp' in place and let the trailer tires climb it up to the curb.
Remember, my trailer weighs in over 5 tons, so I'm not going to go 'hitting' the curb.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

True North[_2_] July 30th 13 07:56 PM

Sunday cruise
 
On Tuesday, 30 July 2013 04:11:25 UTC-3, wrote:
On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:21:20 AM UTC-4, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:





Don't cry donnie...




I still think it's hilariously funny that the dumbass just cant back his Boat in his Driveway.


That little girlie friend of yours needs his jaw broken and re-set to escape his madness.
He has no money , so maybe you can go visit him with your balsa wood toothpick and save him a lot of money.


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