On 7/28/13 7:50 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 7/28/13 6:33 PM, Eisboch wrote:


What party would that be Harry?

I am not interested in playing your word games. You have established
your feelings about Vietnam and those who served willingly or not. Many
felt they were doing their duty based on a culture that encouraged
service to the country, including the military, and promoted it as being
an honorable thing to do. Some did reluctantly because they were
drafted. But they served. I resent the fact that you have stooped
so low as to accuse some here of being purposeful baby killers and
asking crude questions like "How many innocent Asians did you kill?"
That's lower than whale ****.

Yeah, I know, you've repeated the "I am against the military
establishment and not the ones who served" thing several times. But
you also haven't hesitated to accuse those you know here personally as
well. You have no idea of what their backgrounds are or what they did.

Sorry, but I didn't have any respect for those attitudes and accusations
then and I don't have any respect for them now.

Have you *ever* done anything in your life that would be considered an
"honorable" thing to do, or have you spent your life simply looking out
for what *you* can get out of the system or the interests of those who
paid you to promote their interests? Based on your history of posting
here, I think it's the latter.

Anyone here who served in the military was paid to promote the interests
of the military and the political establishment.

You are right in one respect: I have no idea what the military veterans
in this newsgroup did while they were in uniform. Based on their
typically dirtbag behavior here, though, I can't imagine Herring,
FlaJim, Bert, et cetera, being anything but dirtbags while they were in
uniform.

I have nothing other than my gut feeling for this, but I suspect the
many months I spent in Vietnam finding and marking the bodies U.S.
service personnel killed in the field was at least as dangerous and
honorable as anything our boys here in uniform did. And the pay sucked.

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Two comments, then I am done. You're entitled to the last word.

1. "Anyone here who served in the military was paid to promote the
interests of the military and the political establishment" might be a
technically accurate statement, but it has absolutely no meaning or
value in terms of why they served. It's another example of your word
games, twisting the context of a discussion.

2. Few people, military or civilian, who actually served or worked in
Vietnam during the war period spend much time (if any) publically
discussing what they did, why they did it, when they did it or how they
happened to be there in the first place. You seem to be an exception
which causes a "gut" feel that your tales are questionable.


Several people here who served said they either were drafted or signed
up to avoid getting drafted into the service they didn't want. Does that
qualify as reasons for why they served?

I have lots of friends who saw service in Vietnam. Most of them are not
ashamed or embarrassed about it. I wasn't in the military, and I have no
reluctance to talk generally about what I did in Vietnam. ****ty as the
experience was, it wasn't nearly as dangerous for me as the time I spent
in El Salvador, during which time two of my compadres were shot and
killed while having a meal in a restaurant. Oh, I wasn't *there* for the
money, either.