Tim wrote:
On Saturday, July 27, 2013 8:25:34 PM UTC-5, Earl wrote:

You aren't going to amass a million dollars

working for minimum wage or even double minimum wage.
How many 'drive-thru window' kids have you asked that thought they would?

I've been misquoted!

On Monday, July 29, 2013 7:32:10 PM UTC-5, Earl wrote:
Tim wrote:

On Saturday, July 27, 2013 8:25:34 PM UTC-5, Earl wrote:



You aren't going to amass a million dollars



working for minimum wage or even double minimum wage.

How many 'drive-thru window' kids have you asked that thought they would?



I've been misquoted!

No, it seems that you and Harry and must now have the same email address because "Earl" is on his posts a lot of the time now.

On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:00:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Uncovering an industry's lies: Fast food offers few ways to get ahead


Press a fast food chain to pay better wages, and you'll hear some
version of this: "The restaurant industry is a launching pad" or
"[E]mployees who want to go from crew to management can take advantage
of a variety of training and other professional development
opportunities." Those statements, from the New York Restaurant
Association and McDonald's, sum up the argument: Fast food workers may
be making poverty wages now, but they could become managers! Owners! The
possibilities are limitless, so really there's no point in paying people
a living wage! Of course, it's not really true.

A new report from the National Employment Law Project reveals just how
false that story of easy advancement is. In the United States as a
whole, 31 percent of jobs are managerial, professional, or technical. In
the fast food industry, it's 2.2 percent. Front-line
occupations—cashiers and fry cooks and the like—are 89.1 percent of fast
food jobs, and they pay a median wage of $8.94 an hour. That's less than
$18,600 for a year of full-time work, not that most of these jobs are
full-time. And what if you do get promoted? Most of those promotions are
to the 8.7 percent of fast food jobs that are first-line supervisors.
Those pay a median of $13.06.

If you want to be a franchise owner, you already have to be rich in most
cases. At the cheap end, you can get a Papa John's franchise if you have
a net worth of $150,000 and liquid assets of $50,000. But try saving
enough to buy one of those at $8.94 or even $13.06 an hour. And the next
cheapest major franchise is Dunkin Donuts, which requires you to have a
net worth of $500,000 and liquid assets of $250,000, and it goes up from
there. So, no, a low-wage fast food job is not the launching pad to
franchise ownership.

In other words, the fast food industry is the dead end you always
thought it was. The myths of mobility it tries to peddle to justify all
those low wages are just that: myths. The vast majority of fast food
jobs pay poverty wages, and there is no more a franchise ownership
coming for the workers struggling to make a living on pay that even
McDonald's indirectly acknowledges isn't enough to live on than there is
a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

http://tinyurl.com/ks3el99

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Ahh. Amerika...land of opportunity...for the rich to feed off the poor.

I spent almost my entire high school career working at a fast food place (Garst's Drive In, Sedalia,
MO). I did fine.

So, again, your put-down of this country is meaningless drivel. Of course, Donnie will love it.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On 7/28/13 12:40 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:00:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Uncovering an industry's lies: Fast food offers few ways to get ahead


Press a fast food chain to pay better wages, and you'll hear some
version of this: "The restaurant industry is a launching pad" or
"[E]mployees who want to go from crew to management can take advantage
of a variety of training and other professional development
opportunities." Those statements, from the New York Restaurant
Association and McDonald's, sum up the argument: Fast food workers may
be making poverty wages now, but they could become managers! Owners! The
possibilities are limitless, so really there's no point in paying people
a living wage! Of course, it's not really true.

I spent a lot of time around fast food (Wendy's, Burger King and
Arbys)
I doubt anyone working there actually thinks they are doing it to get
rich.
You have 2 basic employees, young kids who are just making some money
while they are looking for another job and retired people who just
like being out of the house and are limited by SS about how much money
they can make (without paying taxes on the SS).
The average turnover rate is somewhere around 250% yet you have
employees who have been there for a decade.
People who have stayed around do get raises and they used to get
insurance (not sure now I have been away from it)

I don't get it but there are people who actually like that work.

OTOH if you get into the support end of the business you can make
pretty good money. (district managers, Maintenance directors and IT
people)



Apparently you and others here entirely missed the point of the article.
No surprise, eh?

On 7/28/2013 6:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/28/13 12:40 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:00:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Uncovering an industry's lies: Fast food offers few ways to get ahead


Press a fast food chain to pay better wages, and you'll hear some
version of this: "The restaurant industry is a launching pad" or
"[E]mployees who want to go from crew to management can take advantage
of a variety of training and other professional development
opportunities." Those statements, from the New York Restaurant
Association and McDonald's, sum up the argument: Fast food workers may
be making poverty wages now, but they could become managers! Owners! The
possibilities are limitless, so really there's no point in paying people
a living wage! Of course, it's not really true.

I spent a lot of time around fast food (Wendy's, Burger King and
Arbys)
I doubt anyone working there actually thinks they are doing it to get
rich.
You have 2 basic employees, young kids who are just making some money
while they are looking for another job and retired people who just
like being out of the house and are limited by SS about how much money
they can make (without paying taxes on the SS).
The average turnover rate is somewhere around 250% yet you have
employees who have been there for a decade.
People who have stayed around do get raises and they used to get
insurance (not sure now I have been away from it)

I don't get it but there are people who actually like that work.

OTOH if you get into the support end of the business you can make
pretty good money. (district managers, Maintenance directors and IT
people)



Apparently you and others here entirely missed the point of the article.
No surprise, eh?

You don't expect normal people to make sense of your brainwashrd
muttering, do you?

maybe so, the article was pointless anyhow. But it id give you an excuse to write "Amerika"

On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:35:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

maybe so, the article was pointless anyhow. But it id give you an excuse to write "Amerika"

Well said.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:00:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Uncovering an industry's lies: Fast food offers few ways to get ahead


Press a fast food chain to pay better wages, and you'll hear some
version of this: "The restaurant industry is a launching pad" or
"[E]mployees who want to go from crew to management can take advantage
of a variety of training and other professional development
opportunities." Those statements, from the New York Restaurant
Association and McDonald's, sum up the argument: Fast food workers may
be making poverty wages now, but they could become managers! Owners! The
possibilities are limitless, so really there's no point in paying people
a living wage! Of course, it's not really true.

I spent a lot of time around fast food (Wendy's, Burger King and
Arbys)
I doubt anyone working there actually thinks they are doing it to get
rich.
You have 2 basic employees, young kids who are just making some money
while they are looking for another job and retired people who just
like being out of the house and are limited by SS about how much money
they can make (without paying taxes on the SS).
The average turnover rate is somewhere around 250% yet you have
employees who have been there for a decade.
People who have stayed around do get raises and they used to get
insurance (not sure now I have been away from it)

I don't get it but there are people who actually like that work.

OTOH if you get into the support end of the business you can make
pretty good money. (district managers, Maintenance directors and IT
people)


You are correct. A friend of mine's niece didn't have college funds,
didn't want federal loans. At 17 out of high school she went to work at
the local McDonalds. She worked her way up through shift manager, etc.
while they paid her a fair amount of her community college tab. She
eventually became a regional manager, and made a pretty good living. As
far as I know she is still with McDonalds. One thing is, they reward
hard work and effort by advancement.