On 7/22/13 10:22 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:26:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

So, if your daughter is walking home from the store…
…and a man she does not know who is in a car starts following her
and gets out of the car and chases her…

If she stops running and knees him, or pepper sprays him, or trips him...

...She is the aggressor, and he is justified in shooting her in
"self defense."

You left out the "get on top of and continue to pummel after the
threat was abated" part.

There is also absolutely zero evidence that Zimmerman actually
confronted Martin in the first place.

BTW if martin really felt threatened, why didn't he hang up on the
girl and dial 911?


Maybe because some black folks are reluctant to call the police,
especially in a town with a long history of racism towards them...you
know, a town like Sanford.

On 7/23/13 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:33:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/22/13 10:22 PM, wrote:
.

BTW if martin really felt threatened, why didn't he hang up on the
girl and dial 911?


Maybe because some black folks are reluctant to call the police,
especially in a town with a long history of racism towards them...you
know, a town like Sanford.

OK so Zimmerman called the police and Martin decided to take the law
into his own hands, 'nuff said.

Who is the vigilante again?



Zimmerman was whining about how "they always get away," so rather than
wait for the police, he took the law into his own hands.

"Vigilante justice" is rationalized by the idea that adequate legal
mechanisms for criminal punishment are either nonexistent or
insufficient. Vigilantes typically see government as ineffective in
enforcing the law; and such individuals often presume to justify their
actions as fulfillment of the wishes of "the community".

So, in response to your question, the vigilante was Zimmerman.

Have nice day.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/23/13 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:33:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 7/22/13 10:22 PM, wrote:
.

BTW if martin really felt threatened, why didn't he hang up on the
girl and dial 911?


Maybe because some black folks are reluctant to call the police,
especially in a town with a long history of racism towards
them...you
know, a town like Sanford.

OK so Zimmerman called the police and Martin decided to take the law
into his own hands, 'nuff said.

Who is the vigilante again?



Zimmerman was whining about how "they always get away," so rather than
wait for the police, he took the law into his own hands.

"Vigilante justice" is rationalized by the idea that adequate legal
mechanisms for criminal punishment are either nonexistent or
insufficient. Vigilantes typically see government as ineffective in
enforcing the law; and such individuals often presume to justify their
actions as fulfillment of the wishes of "the community".

So, in response to your question, the vigilante was Zimmerman.

Have nice day.

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A vigilante doesn't call the police to report a crime or suspicious
activity.
Zimmerman did.

A vigilante isn't in direct communications with a police dispatcher.
Zimmerman was.

A vigilante wouldn't respond to the dispatcher's question "Where did
he go?" with an attempt to try to find out.
Zimmerman did.

A vigilante would have shot Martin as soon as he saw him.
Zimmerman didn't. He shot him in self defense while getting his ass
kicked.

On 7/23/13 12:25 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/23/13 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:33:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/22/13 10:22 PM, wrote:
.

BTW if martin really felt threatened, why didn't he hang up on the
girl and dial 911?


Maybe because some black folks are reluctant to call the police,
especially in a town with a long history of racism towards them...you
know, a town like Sanford.

OK so Zimmerman called the police and Martin decided to take the law
into his own hands, 'nuff said.

Who is the vigilante again?



Zimmerman was whining about how "they always get away," so rather than
wait for the police, he took the law into his own hands.

"Vigilante justice" is rationalized by the idea that adequate legal
mechanisms for criminal punishment are either nonexistent or
insufficient. Vigilantes typically see government as ineffective in
enforcing the law; and such individuals often presume to justify their
actions as fulfillment of the wishes of "the community".

So, in response to your question, the vigilante was Zimmerman.

Have nice day.

-------------------------------------------

A vigilante doesn't call the police to report a crime or suspicious
activity.
Zimmerman did.

A vigilante isn't in direct communications with a police dispatcher.
Zimmerman was.

A vigilante wouldn't respond to the dispatcher's question "Where did he
go?" with an attempt to try to find out.
Zimmerman did.

A vigilante would have shot Martin as soon as he saw him.
Zimmerman didn't. He shot him in self defense while getting his ass
kicked.




Zimmerman called the police to report that a black kid was walking
through his neighborhood. He also stated the police never showed up
ontime to catch his "suspect," so he took the law into his own hands.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...



Zimmerman called the police to report that a black kid was walking
through his neighborhood. He also stated the police never showed up
ontime to catch his "suspect," so he took the law into his own hands.

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That's the liberal media and activist version of what transpired.
Obviously you have jumped on the bandwagon and embraced it.

Unfortunately, it just isn't borne out with the facts, including the
transcribed initial telephone call Zimmerman made to the dispatcher.

Zimmerman didn't call the police to report that a black kid was
walking through his neighborhood. Read the transcripts of the phone
call.
They aren't speculation or "made up".

On 7/23/13 3:24 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...



Zimmerman called the police to report that a black kid was walking
through his neighborhood. He also stated the police never showed up
ontime to catch his "suspect," so he took the law into his own hands.

----------------------------------------

That's the liberal media and activist version of what transpired.
Obviously you have jumped on the bandwagon and embraced it.

Unfortunately, it just isn't borne out with the facts, including the
transcribed initial telephone call Zimmerman made to the dispatcher.

Zimmerman didn't call the police to report that a black kid was walking
through his neighborhood. Read the transcripts of the phone call.
They aren't speculation or "made up".



Yeah, he didn't say "black kid." BFD. He saw a kid walking through the
neighborhood, the kid was black, and Zimmerman therefore thought he was
about to commit a crime.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...

On 7/23/13 3:24 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...



Zimmerman called the police to report that a black kid was walking
through his neighborhood. He also stated the police never showed up
ontime to catch his "suspect," so he took the law into his own
hands.

----------------------------------------

That's the liberal media and activist version of what transpired.
Obviously you have jumped on the bandwagon and embraced it.

Unfortunately, it just isn't borne out with the facts, including the
transcribed initial telephone call Zimmerman made to the dispatcher.

Zimmerman didn't call the police to report that a black kid was
walking
through his neighborhood. Read the transcripts of the phone call.
They aren't speculation or "made up".



Yeah, he didn't say "black kid." BFD. He saw a kid walking through the
neighborhood, the kid was black, and Zimmerman therefore thought he
was
about to commit a crime.

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His first words we

"Hey, we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real
suspicious guy-- it's Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give
you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he's up to no
good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just
walking around, looking about."

Keep in mind that initially Zimmerman didn't know if Martin was black
or not. The dispatcher asked if he was white, black or Hispanic.
Zimmerman answered, "He looks black". Later, when Martin
approached Zimmerman's car, he (Zimmerman) confirmed Martin was black
and gave an approximate age. Point is ... he didn't "target" Martin
because he was black, as much as you and others would like to think
or claim that he did.

Also keep in mind that his neighborhood is considered a high crime
rate area .... 8 or more documented home invasions/burglaries in 14-15
months. We rarely have one every two or three years in the area we
live in.

On 7/23/13 5:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:41:35 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Yeah, he didn't say "black kid." BFD. He saw a kid walking through the
neighborhood, the kid was black, and Zimmerman therefore thought he was
about to commit a crime.

He was a stranger INSIDE the fence of a gated community. This was not
a public street.


The entire community had a gate around it, with a guard at the entrance(s)?

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:41:35 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Yeah, he didn't say "black kid." BFD. He saw a kid walking through the
neighborhood, the kid was black, and Zimmerman therefore thought he was
about to commit a crime.

He was a stranger INSIDE the fence of a gated community. This was not
a public street.

Then what were the police doing there, they would have no jurisdiction.

On 7/23/2013 3:24 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...



Zimmerman called the police to report that a black kid was walking
through his neighborhood. He also stated the police never showed up
ontime to catch his "suspect," so he took the law into his own hands.

----------------------------------------

That's the liberal media and activist version of what transpired.
Obviously you have jumped on the bandwagon and embraced it.

Unfortunately, it just isn't borne out with the facts, including the
transcribed initial telephone call Zimmerman made to the dispatcher.

Zimmerman didn't call the police to report that a black kid was walking
through his neighborhood. Read the transcripts of the phone call.
They aren't speculation or "made up".


Harry often edits the facts and statements of others. He lies so much he
probably doesn't even realize he's doing it.