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On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 10:36:38 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Those "negotiations" are basically coercion with the tax payers being
the victims. They have no say in the contracts but they get stuck with
the bills ... or they simply move away as the people in detroit did.

Negotiations with public employees are done under the direction of
elected public officials.

Who are lobbied by the same unions they negotiate with and who will
endure the wrath of those same unions at the polls if they actually
argue with any of the union demands.
In the case of some public service unions,, the union negotiator may
even be paid by the city.

Here in the sf Bay Area, BART the semi rapid transit, is going on strike
for a 23% raise over the next 3 years. They already are among the highest
paid transit workers in the nation. Average driver makes $73k salary with
an additional $66k in overtime. Plus fully paid retirement and $93 a month
for a medical plan no matter the size of the family. The SEIU leader has
already declared WAR in those words.

But it takes a lot of money to live out there.

Califbill

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 171579839396206878.249459bmckeenospam-
, says...

wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 10:36:38 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Those "negotiations" are basically coercion with the tax payers being
the victims. They have no say in the contracts but they get stuck with
the bills ... or they simply move away as the people in detroit did.

Negotiations with public employees are done under the direction of
elected public officials.

Who are lobbied by the same unions they negotiate with and who will
endure the wrath of those same unions at the polls if they actually
argue with any of the union demands.
In the case of some public service unions,, the union negotiator may
even be paid by the city.

Here in the sf Bay Area, BART the semi rapid transit, is going on strike
for a 23% raise over the next 3 years. They already are among the highest
paid transit workers in the nation. Average driver makes $73k salary with
an additional $66k in overtime. Plus fully paid retirement and $93 a month
for a medical plan no matter the size of the family. The SEIU leader has
already declared WAR in those words.

But it takes a lot of money to live out there.

Well it does not take that kind of money. Lots of areas that are very nice
and do not cost millions to buy a house. My city is one of the highest
income towns in the USA, and there are areas where you can buy a house for
$500k. When a person with a GED that sits in the cab of the BART train and
his only job is to make sure no one is stuck in the doors, or to drive the
train, on tracks, to the next station at 25 mph, he should make more than
teachers? You sound like a typical government employee. There employee
expense ratio are the highest in the nation.

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