On 7/14/2013 12:27 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:45:29 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

I know, I know, "the jury didn't say he was innocent, only said he was
not guilty" but you know what they meant. At the same time the jury
never said "Treyvon was on top beating the life out of George" either...
but it's obviously what they believed...

So in your eyes, OJ is completely innocent too, right?

Was OJ being attacked and his head smacked against the sidewalk?

John (Gun Nut) H.


My point was directed at folks who are saying "they did not find him
*innocent*, just not guilty" are some of the same folks who demanded we
accept the OJ verdict twenty some odd years ago...

On 7/14/13 1:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 7/14/2013 12:27 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:45:29 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

I know, I know, "the jury didn't say he was innocent, only said he was
not guilty" but you know what they meant. At the same time the jury
never said "Treyvon was on top beating the life out of George"
either...
but it's obviously what they believed...

So in your eyes, OJ is completely innocent too, right?

Was OJ being attacked and his head smacked against the sidewalk?

John (Gun Nut) H.


My point was directed at folks who are saying "they did not find him
*innocent*, just not guilty" are some of the same folks who demanded we
accept the OJ verdict twenty some odd years ago...


Accepting the verdict and believing justice was done are not the same
thing. I was at a conference in Chicago, attending regional meetings of
a mostly black labor union, when the OJ verdict was announced in the
murder trial. No one at our lunch table, and I was the only "whitey"
there, thought OJ should have walked. He was found not guilty but
justice was not done.

In article , says...

On 7/14/13 1:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 7/14/2013 12:27 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:45:29 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

I know, I know, "the jury didn't say he was innocent, only said he was
not guilty" but you know what they meant. At the same time the jury
never said "Treyvon was on top beating the life out of George"
either...
but it's obviously what they believed...

So in your eyes, OJ is completely innocent too, right?

Was OJ being attacked and his head smacked against the sidewalk?

John (Gun Nut) H.


My point was directed at folks who are saying "they did not find him
*innocent*, just not guilty" are some of the same folks who demanded we
accept the OJ verdict twenty some odd years ago...


Accepting the verdict and believing justice was done are not the same
thing. I was at a conference in Chicago, attending regional meetings of
a mostly black labor union, when the OJ verdict was announced in the
murder trial. No one at our lunch table, and I was the only "whitey"
there, thought OJ should have walked. He was found not guilty but
justice was not done.

Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater-
truths/2131361

On 7/14/2013 2:29 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater-
truths/2131361


That all assumes Travonn was "innocent" yet he seems to have a history
of burglary, assault, gun/drug dealing and general thuggery.

The judge quashed all of this before the trial but it is still out
there.

There is no reason to believe "walking slowly in the rain looking INTO
cars", as Zimmerman reported in his police call, is not suspicious
activity.

We are still waiting to see what the Miami police found when they
tried to find the owners of the jewelry Trayvonn was caught with
(along with a burglary tool).
What was the disposition of that .40 cal S&W pistol Travonn was
flaunting on the internet? Did Mom throw it in the bay? Do the parents
still have it? How did he get that? Was it stolen too? How about the
.22 he was trying to sell?

My bet is that the lawyers made all of that, along with the dope he
had and was trying to sell, "go away".

Will the state try to pursue any of that? The guns alone constitute
several felonies.


The special prosecutor is gonna' be frog hopped soon. Seems a bunch of
evidence just came out yesterday that was deliberately hidden from the
defense through the whole trial... These pics and vids probably say a
lot as to why Trayvon's parents are so quiet. If they do go to civil
litigation, I think Martin will get ripped to pieces for what he was in
real life... A gangster, and a thug.

In article ,
says...

On 7/14/2013 2:29 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater-
truths/2131361


That all assumes Travonn was "innocent" yet he seems to have a history
of burglary, assault, gun/drug dealing and general thuggery.

The judge quashed all of this before the trial but it is still out
there.

There is no reason to believe "walking slowly in the rain looking INTO
cars", as Zimmerman reported in his police call, is not suspicious
activity.

We are still waiting to see what the Miami police found when they
tried to find the owners of the jewelry Trayvonn was caught with
(along with a burglary tool).
What was the disposition of that .40 cal S&W pistol Travonn was
flaunting on the internet? Did Mom throw it in the bay? Do the parents
still have it? How did he get that? Was it stolen too? How about the
.22 he was trying to sell?

My bet is that the lawyers made all of that, along with the dope he
had and was trying to sell, "go away".

Will the state try to pursue any of that? The guns alone constitute
several felonies.


The special prosecutor is gonna' be frog hopped soon. Seems a bunch of
evidence just came out yesterday that was deliberately hidden from the
defense through the whole trial... These pics and vids probably say a
lot as to why Trayvon's parents are so quiet. If they do go to civil
litigation, I think Martin will get ripped to pieces for what he was in
real life... A gangster, and a thug.

Cite?

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,

says...

On 7/14/2013 2:29 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater-
truths/2131361


That all assumes Travonn was "innocent" yet he seems to have a
history
of burglary, assault, gun/drug dealing and general thuggery.

The judge quashed all of this before the trial but it is still out
there.

There is no reason to believe "walking slowly in the rain looking
INTO
cars", as Zimmerman reported in his police call, is not suspicious
activity.

We are still waiting to see what the Miami police found when they
tried to find the owners of the jewelry Trayvonn was caught with
(along with a burglary tool).
What was the disposition of that .40 cal S&W pistol Travonn was
flaunting on the internet? Did Mom throw it in the bay? Do the
parents
still have it? How did he get that? Was it stolen too? How about
the
.22 he was trying to sell?

My bet is that the lawyers made all of that, along with the dope
he
had and was trying to sell, "go away".

Will the state try to pursue any of that? The guns alone
constitute
several felonies.


The special prosecutor is gonna' be frog hopped soon. Seems a bunch
of
evidence just came out yesterday that was deliberately hidden from
the
defense through the whole trial... These pics and vids probably say
a
lot as to why Trayvon's parents are so quiet. If they do go to civil
litigation, I think Martin will get ripped to pieces for what he was
in
real life... A gangster, and a thug.

Cite?

That information is easily available at your fingertips from any
number of sources. You just won't hear much about it on the liberal
TV cable channels.
Just google "Ben Kruidbos".

On 7/15/13 8:23 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On 7/14/2013 2:29 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater-
truths/2131361


That all assumes Travonn was "innocent" yet he seems to have a
history
of burglary, assault, gun/drug dealing and general thuggery.

The judge quashed all of this before the trial but it is still out
there.

There is no reason to believe "walking slowly in the rain looking
INTO
cars", as Zimmerman reported in his police call, is not suspicious
activity.

We are still waiting to see what the Miami police found when they
tried to find the owners of the jewelry Trayvonn was caught with
(along with a burglary tool).
What was the disposition of that .40 cal S&W pistol Travonn was
flaunting on the internet? Did Mom throw it in the bay? Do the
parents
still have it? How did he get that? Was it stolen too? How about the
.22 he was trying to sell?

My bet is that the lawyers made all of that, along with the dope he
had and was trying to sell, "go away".

Will the state try to pursue any of that? The guns alone constitute
several felonies.


The special prosecutor is gonna' be frog hopped soon. Seems a bunch of
evidence just came out yesterday that was deliberately hidden from the
defense through the whole trial... These pics and vids probably say a
lot as to why Trayvon's parents are so quiet. If they do go to civil
litigation, I think Martin will get ripped to pieces for what he was in
real life... A gangster, and a thug.

Cite?

That information is easily available at your fingertips from any number
of sources. You just won't hear much about it on the liberal TV cable
channels.
Just google "Ben Kruidbos".


The guy who says there was a photo of a marijuana plant and a hand
holding a gun on Martin's cell phone? Hot stuff.

In article ,
says...
Ben Kruidbos


This one?

http://tinyurl.com/ot6anyj