On 7/2/13 4:23 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
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This trial has gotten SO political and it's a damned shame. No matter
what the outcome, there is going to be a large percentage of people
who
aren't happy with it.

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Similar but different from the O.J. Simpson trial. That one had
external forces applying influence but it wasn't necessarily racial or
political.

I'm not really sure WHAT that was!


OJ's lawyers totally overwhelmed the state's prosecutors, and the facts
that the defense was able to show that some evidence was mishandled,
that at least one of the cops intimately involved in the case was an
avowed racist and engaged in shenanigans with some of the evidence and
then "took the fifth" about it, and a number of other factors resulted
in a not guilty verdict.

If Zimmerman walks, it won't be because he stalked a young man,
instigated a fight and, when it wasn't going his way, whipped out his
pistol and shot and killed the young man. It'll be because the trial
took place in a gun-happy state.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 5:00:36 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/2/13 4:23 PM, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,

says...



"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...





This trial has gotten SO political and it's a damned shame. No matter

what the outcome, there is going to be a large percentage of people

who

aren't happy with it.



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Similar but different from the O.J. Simpson trial. That one had

external forces applying influence but it wasn't necessarily racial or

political.



I'm not really sure WHAT that was!





OJ's lawyers totally overwhelmed the state's prosecutors, and the facts

that the defense was able to show that some evidence was mishandled,

that at least one of the cops intimately involved in the case was an

avowed racist and engaged in shenanigans with some of the evidence and

then "took the fifth" about it, and a number of other factors resulted

in a not guilty verdict.



If Zimmerman walks, it won't be because he stalked a young man,

instigated a fight and, when it wasn't going his way, whipped out his

pistol and shot and killed the young man. It'll be because the trial

took place in a gun-happy state.

"But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the word 'go'. No need for a trial. "

On 7/3/13 6:09 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 5:00:36 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/2/13 4:23 PM, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,

says...



"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...





This trial has gotten SO political and it's a damned shame. No matter

what the outcome, there is going to be a large percentage of people

who

aren't happy with it.



--------------------------------------



Similar but different from the O.J. Simpson trial. That one had

external forces applying influence but it wasn't necessarily racial or

political.



I'm not really sure WHAT that was!





OJ's lawyers totally overwhelmed the state's prosecutors, and the facts

that the defense was able to show that some evidence was mishandled,

that at least one of the cops intimately involved in the case was an

avowed racist and engaged in shenanigans with some of the evidence and

then "took the fifth" about it, and a number of other factors resulted

in a not guilty verdict.



If Zimmerman walks, it won't be because he stalked a young man,

instigated a fight and, when it wasn't going his way, whipped out his

pistol and shot and killed the young man. It'll be because the trial

took place in a gun-happy state.

"But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the word 'go'. No need for a trial."


My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim. I
don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of
their son.

On 7/3/2013 6:18 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
I
don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the SHOOTING of
their son.

Justice for them is what Harry? An eye for an eye?

On 7/3/2013 7:27 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 7/3/2013 6:18 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
I
don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the SHOOTING of
their son.

Justice for them is what Harry? An eye for an eye?

Maybe the state of Florida got justice for the parents not raising their
kid properly....

In article ,
says...

On 7/3/2013 7:27 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 7/3/2013 6:18 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
I
don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the SHOOTING of
their son.

Justice for them is what Harry? An eye for an eye?

Maybe the state of Florida got justice for the parents not raising their
kid properly....

What makes you think that the parent's raised there kid any other way
than "properly"? Do you raise your kids properly? What is the proper way
to raise a kid? One would say to ensure that they have enough self value
to want to go to college, get a decent education and be something other
than a bar tender.

On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 5:18:03 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/3/13 6:09 AM, Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 5:00:36 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 7/2/13 4:23 PM, iBoaterer wrote:



In article ,



says...







"iBoaterer" wrote in message



...











This trial has gotten SO political and it's a damned shame. No matter



what the outcome, there is going to be a large percentage of people



who



aren't happy with it.







--------------------------------------







Similar but different from the O.J. Simpson trial. That one had



external forces applying influence but it wasn't necessarily racial or



political.







I'm not really sure WHAT that was!











OJ's lawyers totally overwhelmed the state's prosecutors, and the facts



that the defense was able to show that some evidence was mishandled,



that at least one of the cops intimately involved in the case was an



avowed racist and engaged in shenanigans with some of the evidence and



then "took the fifth" about it, and a number of other factors resulted



in a not guilty verdict.







If Zimmerman walks, it won't be because he stalked a young man,



instigated a fight and, when it wasn't going his way, whipped out his



pistol and shot and killed the young man. It'll be because the trial



took place in a gun-happy state.



"But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the word 'go'. No need for a trial."





My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim. I

don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of

their son.

Of course it does, Harry. I don't have an opinion. I'm letting the courts decide and that's it. Why can't everybody else?

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 5:18:03 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim.
I
don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of
their son.

Of course it does, Harry. I don't have an opinion. I'm letting the
courts decide and that's it. Why can't everybody else?

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You have to remember Tim, Harry has a problem with court decisions
(even by the Supreme Court of the United States) unless the decision
happens to go his way.

Don't you remember Gore versus Bush? Some people just can't forget
it, including Harry.
But, when an important issue like same sex marriage with full federal
benefits (for 1.7 percent of the population) is decided, many people
including Harry applaud.

So, you see, it all depends what the subject is.

In article ,
says...

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 5:18:03 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim.
I
don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of
their son.

Of course it does, Harry. I don't have an opinion. I'm letting the
courts decide and that's it. Why can't everybody else?

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You have to remember Tim, Harry has a problem with court decisions
(even by the Supreme Court of the United States) unless the decision
happens to go his way.

Don't you remember Gore versus Bush? Some people just can't forget
it, including Harry.
But, when an important issue like same sex marriage with full federal
benefits (for 1.7 percent of the population) is decided, many people
including Harry applaud.

So, you see, it all depends what the subject is.

Just like Scotty says that just because someone is found innocent in a
court of law, it doesn't mean he's innocent.

On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 06:18:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim. I
don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of
their son.

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It is up to the jury to decide if he was murdered or not. My guess
is not.