The state is winning the case................... For Zimmerman.

On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:25:51 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

The state is winning the case................... For Zimmerman.

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In the interest of social stability post-trial, it is important for
*everyone* to realize just how flimsy the murder evidence was.
Otherwise it will be viewed as just another lynching when Zimmerman is
acquited. The prosecution would have had much better chances with a
manslaughter charge in my opinion.

On 7/1/13 6:05 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:25:51 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

The state is winning the case................... For Zimmerman.

====

In the interest of social stability post-trial...

Wayne channels Chip Diller:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:25:51 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

The state is winning the case................... For Zimmerman.

====

In the interest of social stability post-trial, it is important for
*everyone* to realize just how flimsy the murder evidence was.
Otherwise it will be viewed as just another lynching when Zimmerman is
acquited. The prosecution would have had much better chances with a
manslaughter charge in my opinion.

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The lead investigator recommended a charge of manslaughter instead of
2nd degree murder. Technically the jury is not supposed to know that
and it can't be allowed as evidence in the trial.

Flipped MSNBC on briefly just as the Rev. Al's show was coming on.
"Breaking News" on his show's banner. What was the "breaking news"?
Zimmerman used the term "those guys" on more that one occasion
during the series of police interviews. As usual, the Rev.
automatically jumps to the race angle.

Zimmerman never referred to any specific race in all the interviews
I've heard or read so far. I took the "those guys" term as
referencing the group of people he claims have conducted burglaries
and/or home invasions in the area in the past.

The Rev. Al is capable of causing social unrest .... and *will*.

On 7/1/13 7:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:25:51 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

The state is winning the case................... For Zimmerman.

====

In the interest of social stability post-trial, it is important for
*everyone* to realize just how flimsy the murder evidence was.
Otherwise it will be viewed as just another lynching when Zimmerman is
acquited. The prosecution would have had much better chances with a
manslaughter charge in my opinion.

------------------------------------------

The lead investigator recommended a charge of manslaughter instead of
2nd degree murder. Technically the jury is not supposed to know that
and it can't be allowed as evidence in the trial.

Flipped MSNBC on briefly just as the Rev. Al's show was coming on.
"Breaking News" on his show's banner. What was the "breaking news"?
Zimmerman used the term "those guys" on more that one occasion during
the series of police interviews. As usual, the Rev. automatically jumps
to the race angle.

Zimmerman never referred to any specific race in all the interviews I've
heard or read so far. I took the "those guys" term as referencing the
group of people he claims have conducted burglaries and/or home
invasions in the area in the past.

The Rev. Al is capable of causing social unrest .... and *will*.





I heard that, too, and I assumed Zimmerman meant blacks by his "those
guys" comment. I still have not heard evidence as to why Zimmerman was
chasing down Martin. If Martin actually punched Zimmerman, perhaps
Martin was simply standing his ground after being stalked by a white guy
brandishing a firearm, and Zimmerman said to himself, "Screw this," and
shot the kid.

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On 7/1/13 7:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:25:51 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

The state is winning the case................... For
Zimmerman.

====

In the interest of social stability post-trial, it is important for
*everyone* to realize just how flimsy the murder evidence was.
Otherwise it will be viewed as just another lynching when Zimmerman
is
acquited. The prosecution would have had much better chances with a
manslaughter charge in my opinion.

------------------------------------------

The lead investigator recommended a charge of manslaughter instead
of
2nd degree murder. Technically the jury is not supposed to know
that
and it can't be allowed as evidence in the trial.

Flipped MSNBC on briefly just as the Rev. Al's show was coming on.
"Breaking News" on his show's banner. What was the "breaking
news"?
Zimmerman used the term "those guys" on more that one occasion
during
the series of police interviews. As usual, the Rev. automatically
jumps
to the race angle.

Zimmerman never referred to any specific race in all the interviews
I've
heard or read so far. I took the "those guys" term as referencing
the
group of people he claims have conducted burglaries and/or home
invasions in the area in the past.

The Rev. Al is capable of causing social unrest .... and *will*.





I heard that, too, and I assumed Zimmerman meant blacks by his "those
guys" comment. I still have not heard evidence as to why Zimmerman was
chasing down Martin. If Martin actually punched Zimmerman, perhaps
Martin was simply standing his ground after being stalked by a white
guy
brandishing a firearm, and Zimmerman said to himself, "Screw this,"
and
shot the kid.

---------------------------------------

Who knows? I am not taking sides and don't have a clue if he's
telling the truth. I find the trial fascinating though.

But I find it interesting that you also automatically assume Zimmerman
was referring to blacks with his "those guys" comment. Why?
In all the interviews and written statements, he talks about break
ins/home invasions and never (to my knowledge) refers to blacks,
whites, Latinos, Asians or any specific race as being responsible.
He refers to them as "burglars". So, when he says "those guys", I
take it as being "those guys" that are committing the burglaries.

Funny how stereotypes are automatically assigned.

And sorry, but I don't think "Rev." Albert contributes anything to
social harmony or stability. To the contrary, he fuels hate and
distrust. It's what he does for a living.

On 7/1/13 9:33 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 7/1/13 7:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:25:51 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

The state is winning the case................... For Zimmerman.

====

In the interest of social stability post-trial, it is important for
*everyone* to realize just how flimsy the murder evidence was.
Otherwise it will be viewed as just another lynching when Zimmerman is
acquited. The prosecution would have had much better chances with a
manslaughter charge in my opinion.

------------------------------------------

The lead investigator recommended a charge of manslaughter instead of
2nd degree murder. Technically the jury is not supposed to know that
and it can't be allowed as evidence in the trial.

Flipped MSNBC on briefly just as the Rev. Al's show was coming on.
"Breaking News" on his show's banner. What was the "breaking news"?
Zimmerman used the term "those guys" on more that one occasion during
the series of police interviews. As usual, the Rev. automatically jumps
to the race angle.

Zimmerman never referred to any specific race in all the interviews I've
heard or read so far. I took the "those guys" term as referencing the
group of people he claims have conducted burglaries and/or home
invasions in the area in the past.

The Rev. Al is capable of causing social unrest .... and *will*.





I heard that, too, and I assumed Zimmerman meant blacks by his "those
guys" comment. I still have not heard evidence as to why Zimmerman was
chasing down Martin. If Martin actually punched Zimmerman, perhaps
Martin was simply standing his ground after being stalked by a white guy
brandishing a firearm, and Zimmerman said to himself, "Screw this," and
shot the kid.

---------------------------------------

Who knows? I am not taking sides and don't have a clue if he's telling
the truth. I find the trial fascinating though.

But I find it interesting that you also automatically assume Zimmerman
was referring to blacks with his "those guys" comment. Why?
In all the interviews and written statements, he talks about break
ins/home invasions and never (to my knowledge) refers to blacks, whites,
Latinos, Asians or any specific race as being responsible. He refers to
them as "burglars". So, when he says "those guys", I take it as
being "those guys" that are committing the burglaries.

Funny how stereotypes are automatically assigned.

And sorry, but I don't think "Rev." Albert contributes anything to
social harmony or stability. To the contrary, he fuels hate and
distrust. It's what he does for a living.





Al is pretty mild compared to any number of Republicans who hold
national political office. You know, Cruz, Gomert, and about half the
GOP members of the US House and US Senate.

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On 7/1/13 7:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:25:51 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

The state is winning the case................... For Zimmerman.

====

In the interest of social stability post-trial, it is important for
*everyone* to realize just how flimsy the murder evidence was.
Otherwise it will be viewed as just another lynching when Zimmerman is
acquited. The prosecution would have had much better chances with a
manslaughter charge in my opinion.

------------------------------------------

The lead investigator recommended a charge of manslaughter instead of
2nd degree murder. Technically the jury is not supposed to know that
and it can't be allowed as evidence in the trial.

Flipped MSNBC on briefly just as the Rev. Al's show was coming on.
"Breaking News" on his show's banner. What was the "breaking news"?
Zimmerman used the term "those guys" on more that one occasion during
the series of police interviews. As usual, the Rev. automatically jumps
to the race angle.

Zimmerman never referred to any specific race in all the interviews I've
heard or read so far. I took the "those guys" term as referencing the
group of people he claims have conducted burglaries and/or home
invasions in the area in the past.

The Rev. Al is capable of causing social unrest .... and *will*.





I heard that, too, and I assumed Zimmerman meant blacks by his "those
guys" comment. I still have not heard evidence as to why Zimmerman was
chasing down Martin. If Martin actually punched Zimmerman, perhaps
Martin was simply standing his ground after being stalked by a white guy
brandishing a firearm, and Zimmerman said to himself, "Screw this," and
shot the kid.

---------------------------------------

Who knows? I am not taking sides and don't have a clue if he's telling
the truth. I find the trial fascinating though.

But I find it interesting that you also automatically assume Zimmerman was
referring to blacks with his "those guys" comment. Why?
In all the interviews and written statements, he talks about break
ins/home invasions and never (to my knowledge) refers to blacks, whites,
Latinos, Asians or any specific race as being responsible. He refers to
them as "burglars". So, when he says "those guys", I take it as being
"those guys" that are committing the burglaries.

So why did he get out of his car and start following Martin? Martin have
"BURGLAR" printed on the back of his hoodie? Zimmerman is guilty of
manslaughter, criminally negligent homicide, reckless endangerment -
something - but, according to Florida's definition of 2nd degree murder, not
that. Incidentally, immediately after the shooting happened, TV news
reported the first detective on the scene wanted to charge him with 2nd
degree murder.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 7/1/13 7:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:


Zimmerman never referred to any specific race in all the interviews
I've
heard or read so far. I took the "those guys" term as referencing
the
group of people he claims have conducted burglaries and/or home
invasions in the area in the past.

The Rev. Al is capable of causing social unrest .... and *will*.


I heard that, too, and I assumed Zimmerman meant blacks by his "those
guys" comment. I still have not heard evidence as to why Zimmerman was
chasing down Martin. If Martin actually punched Zimmerman, perhaps
Martin was simply standing his ground after being stalked by a white
guy
brandishing a firearm, and Zimmerman said to himself, "Screw this,"
and
shot the kid.

------------------------------------------

One thing that came out today in the recorded police interviews is
that Zimmerman has a desire to be a cop.
He claims to have an Associate's in Criminal Justice and is pursuing a
Bachelor's degree in same.

I had a hunch that this is what contributed to his creation of the
"Crime Watch" thing. It may also point to an underlying desire to
involve himself in events or possibly *imagine* events to be more than
what they are. I am not sure it's a racial thing. If he has a
vigilante mentality, it would likely apply to everyone he suspects as
being a "bad guy". With that in mind, I am not so sure the jury will
acquit. Tough call.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:25:51 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

The state is winning the case................... For Zimmerman.

====

In the interest of social stability post-trial, it is important for
*everyone* to realize just how flimsy the murder evidence was.
Otherwise it will be viewed as just another lynching when Zimmerman is
acquited. The prosecution would have had much better chances with a
manslaughter charge in my opinion.

------------------------------------------

The lead investigator recommended a charge of manslaughter instead of
2nd degree murder. Technically the jury is not supposed to know that
and it can't be allowed as evidence in the trial.

Flipped MSNBC on briefly just as the Rev. Al's show was coming on.
"Breaking News" on his show's banner. What was the "breaking news"?
Zimmerman used the term "those guys" on more that one occasion
during the series of police interviews. As usual, the Rev.
automatically jumps to the race angle.

Zimmerman never referred to any specific race in all the interviews
I've heard or read so far. I took the "those guys" term as
referencing the group of people he claims have conducted burglaries
and/or home invasions in the area in the past.


Do you really believe that he was talking about burglers?