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On Monday, June 24, 2013 1:02:32 PM UTC-5, Califbill wrote:
"John H" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:35:40 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . ...and my wife, the *real* gun nut, chose this: http://tinyurl.com/3mbx4ao She likes it much better. So do I. Gotta give her credit. John (Gun Nut) H. Running out of room in the safe. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! --------- Bigger safe. Two bigger safe's! |
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On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:39:59 -0400, Earl wrote:
John H wrote: ...and my wife, the *real* gun nut, chose this: http://tinyurl.com/3mbx4ao She likes it much better. So do I. Gotta give her credit. John (Gun Nut) H. I'm looking hard at this one... http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5 Beautiful gun. You could take on an armored division with it. Why a .357? John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 6/25/13 11:18 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:29:37 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:39:59 -0400, Earl wrote: John H wrote: ...and my wife, the *real* gun nut, chose this: http://tinyurl.com/3mbx4ao She likes it much better. So do I. Gotta give her credit. John (Gun Nut) H. I'm looking hard at this one... http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5 Beautiful gun. You could take on an armored division with it. Why a .357? John (Gun Nut) H. .357 gives you a performance advantage over the .45 and 9mm. 10mm/.40 closed that gap. A performance advantage? Funny stuff. Shot a "10" one afternoon at the range. Just bloody awful. Don't like ..40 S&W much, either. Do like the .367 mag in an S&W 27-2. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 6/25/13 11:18 AM, wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:29:37 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:39:59 -0400, Earl wrote: John H wrote: ...and my wife, the *real* gun nut, chose this: http://tinyurl.com/3mbx4ao She likes it much better. So do I. Gotta give her credit. John (Gun Nut) H. I'm looking hard at this one... http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5 Beautiful gun. You could take on an armored division with it. Why a .357? John (Gun Nut) H. .357 gives you a performance advantage over the .45 and 9mm. 10mm/.40 closed that gap. A performance advantage? Funny stuff. Shot a "10" one afternoon at the range. Just bloody awful. Don't like ..40 S&W much, either. Do like the .367 mag in an S&W 27-2. --------------------------------------------- I know very little about comparisons of different kinds of ammo and even less about how to judge their "performance". Terms like "stopping power" really don't mean much, IMO, because there are so many other factors involved. However, from basic physics, energy equals mass times velocity squared. Some smart German guy figured that out. So, the velocity of a round has much more to do with the resultant imparted energy than the mass of the slug, assuming they are somewhat similar. The table in the provided link indicates that a typical .357 round has a much higher muzzle velocity than a typical 45 round. So, if the German guy is right, the energy on the target is higher with the 357. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... However, from basic physics, energy equals mass times velocity squared. Some smart German guy figured that out. So, the velocity of a round has much more to do with the resultant imparted energy than the mass of the slug, assuming they are somewhat similar. The table in the provided link indicates that a typical .357 round has a much higher muzzle velocity than a typical 45 round. So, if the German guy is right, the energy on the target is higher with the 357. --------------------------------- Woops. forgot the link: http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_trajectory_table.htm |
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On 6/25/13 1:26 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 6/25/13 11:18 AM, wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:29:37 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:39:59 -0400, Earl wrote: John H wrote: ...and my wife, the *real* gun nut, chose this: http://tinyurl.com/3mbx4ao She likes it much better. So do I. Gotta give her credit. John (Gun Nut) H. I'm looking hard at this one... http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5 Beautiful gun. You could take on an armored division with it. Why a .357? John (Gun Nut) H. .357 gives you a performance advantage over the .45 and 9mm. 10mm/.40 closed that gap. A performance advantage? Funny stuff. Shot a "10" one afternoon at the range. Just bloody awful. Don't like .40 S&W much, either. Do like the .367 mag in an S&W 27-2. --------------------------------------------- I know very little about comparisons of different kinds of ammo and even less about how to judge their "performance". Terms like "stopping power" really don't mean much, IMO, because there are so many other factors involved. However, from basic physics, energy equals mass times velocity squared. Some smart German guy figured that out. So, the velocity of a round has much more to do with the resultant imparted energy than the mass of the slug, assuming they are somewhat similar. The table in the provided link indicates that a typical .357 round has a much higher muzzle velocity than a typical 45 round. So, if the German guy is right, the energy on the target is higher with the 357. Oh, I am aware of the different properties of some different rounds, but in shooting paper targets at a typical range distance, it doesn't matter much to me. Perhaps the original poster is talking about the ability to pierce and destroy flesh? |
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says... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... However, from basic physics, energy equals mass times velocity squared. Some smart German guy figured that out. So, the velocity of a round has much more to do with the resultant imparted energy than the mass of the slug, assuming they are somewhat similar. The table in the provided link indicates that a typical .357 round has a much higher muzzle velocity than a typical 45 round. So, if the German guy is right, the energy on the target is higher with the 357. --------------------------------- Woops. forgot the link: http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_trajectory_table.htm Physics don't apply in Harryworld..... |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:46:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 6/25/13 1:26 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 6/25/13 11:18 AM, wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:29:37 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:39:59 -0400, Earl wrote: John H wrote: ...and my wife, the *real* gun nut, chose this: http://tinyurl.com/3mbx4ao She likes it much better. So do I. Gotta give her credit. John (Gun Nut) H. I'm looking hard at this one... http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5 Beautiful gun. You could take on an armored division with it. Why a .357? John (Gun Nut) H. .357 gives you a performance advantage over the .45 and 9mm. 10mm/.40 closed that gap. A performance advantage? Funny stuff. Shot a "10" one afternoon at the range. Just bloody awful. Don't like .40 S&W much, either. Do like the .367 mag in an S&W 27-2. --------------------------------------------- I know very little about comparisons of different kinds of ammo and even less about how to judge their "performance". Terms like "stopping power" really don't mean much, IMO, because there are so many other factors involved. However, from basic physics, energy equals mass times velocity squared. Some smart German guy figured that out. So, the velocity of a round has much more to do with the resultant imparted energy than the mass of the slug, assuming they are somewhat similar. The table in the provided link indicates that a typical .357 round has a much higher muzzle velocity than a typical 45 round. So, if the German guy is right, the energy on the target is higher with the 357. Oh, I am aware of the different properties of some different rounds, but in shooting paper targets at a typical range distance, it doesn't matter much to me. Perhaps the original poster is talking about the ability to pierce and destroy flesh? Why shoot anything bigger than a .22, if your goal is only to put targets in paper? Why sell the cheap 9mm and buy a .45? Are you thinking of destroying flesh, or just putting pencil sized holes in paper? John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 6/25/2013 2:54 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:46:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 6/25/13 1:26 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 6/25/13 11:18 AM, wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:29:37 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:39:59 -0400, Earl wrote: John H wrote: ...and my wife, the *real* gun nut, chose this: http://tinyurl.com/3mbx4ao She likes it much better. So do I. Gotta give her credit. John (Gun Nut) H. I'm looking hard at this one... http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5 Beautiful gun. You could take on an armored division with it. Why a .357? John (Gun Nut) H. .357 gives you a performance advantage over the .45 and 9mm. 10mm/.40 closed that gap. A performance advantage? Funny stuff. Shot a "10" one afternoon at the range. Just bloody awful. Don't like .40 S&W much, either. Do like the .367 mag in an S&W 27-2. --------------------------------------------- I know very little about comparisons of different kinds of ammo and even less about how to judge their "performance". Terms like "stopping power" really don't mean much, IMO, because there are so many other factors involved. However, from basic physics, energy equals mass times velocity squared. Some smart German guy figured that out. So, the velocity of a round has much more to do with the resultant imparted energy than the mass of the slug, assuming they are somewhat similar. The table in the provided link indicates that a typical .357 round has a much higher muzzle velocity than a typical 45 round. So, if the German guy is right, the energy on the target is higher with the 357. Oh, I am aware of the different properties of some different rounds, but in shooting paper targets at a typical range distance, it doesn't matter much to me. Perhaps the original poster is talking about the ability to pierce and destroy flesh? Why shoot anything bigger than a .22, if your goal is only to put targets in paper? Why sell the cheap 9mm and buy a .45? Are you thinking of destroying flesh, or just putting pencil sized holes in paper? John (Gun Nut) H. Interesting question. I'm looking forward to hearing his answer. |
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