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On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:12:47 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/3/2013 11:37 AM, John H wrote: On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 18:48:34 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/2/2013 5:47 PM, John H wrote: On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 10:17:59 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: So a friend has a 36 foot fifth wheel camper. The thing is huge, my wife loves it... the guy is offering it to us for a nominal number, probably get it for about 15 hundred. It's relatively newer looking, everything works, clean inside with one roof leak. New bearings, tires, etc. But it's 36 frekin' feet! That of course means another vehicle, probably a big diesel with dual rears??? The reason I put those three question marks is I don't know what it means... So, what do I need to tow something like that and my other question is if I went with something 10 feet shorter (a 25-6 footer), would I be able to downsize the tow vehicle enough to make a difference in initial cost and gas mileage or with a 26 would I pretty much need the same vehicle... The end game here is getting the wife to go with us to races, and this is the first camper she ever got in that she actually liked.. said she would def go camping with us if we were in that... We are looking at other campers today but for 1500, I don't think I am gonna' find anything like it.. So my questions are all about trucks. Remember, this one is a fifth wheel, so what do I need? What are my options.. Thanks. What are the specs? If nothing else, give us the manufacturer and the model number. A dually doesn't really add all that much to your tow capacity, but it sure uses up a lot more fuel - towing or not. I am pulling about 10, 700 lbs now. I'm using a 2009 Silverado 2500 HD diesel. It pulls the 5er with no problems, and gets right around 15 mpg doing so. If you get a much newer pickup with a diesel, then you have to worry about adding the urea (sp?) when you fill up. That's one of the reasons I bought my truck used. Check out Carmax. I've had great luck with them. John H. Been through a lot of changes since "that" trailer... not going to get a 30+ footer, just don't need that. That being said, we are now looking at a 28 foot Jaylite http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2013-JAYCO-28BHS-JAY-FLIGHT-106492668 It has all the things we need/want. Separate bedrooms (opposite ends of the rig cause I snore loudly), and a couch/living area. Looked at a couple of 19-21 footers that I liked but the "bedrooms" were tent type outcroppings... The whole idea is to get out of the canvas enclosure/the elements so they are out. The 21-26 footers were close but none had the two separated bedrooms AND a living room/couch area... The trailer dry weight is 5400 pounds, plus 650pounds for 80 gallon fresh water tank, 600 pounds of bikes, gear, food and other weight in the trailer for a total of 6650 pounds... The Silverado with the 5.7 says it's good for 7300 pounds towing. The 2500 the with the Gas engine says it will tow 8800 pounds... So, eventually when we find that 28 footer used, we will have to get ourselves into a the least a 1500, and possibly a 2500 to tow it. In the mean time we have decided it was fun looking around and dreaming but for now we got a decent tent, and it's time to get back to work:) I've never filled my fresh water tank. Don't need to waste the money hauling water around. Look at it this way, you didn't need it when you were tenting, so why haul it around now? There are some light weight 5ers running around. They usually have a bed in the upper compartment and a sleep sofa in the living room. The sleep sofa is probably not comfortable, but my wife found an air mattress that is very comfortable. It inflates quickly and the same motor deflates it even more quickly. It was a great idea. John H. Yeah, we usually bring in a couple cases of water and a 35 gallon plastic barrel as most of the places we camp are not "camping" areas, just parking lots with no hookups, or fresh water available... The 640 pound figure was based on a full tank although for a single weekend I think we could do with half a tank at about 300 pounds. We looked at a few with the master bedroom and a nice couch but we still like the separate "rooms" with walls at either end and no having to go by someone to get to the potty at night. I snore and Jess is a light sleeper... There are a few other considerations that are specific to "our sport" that are probably not as important to "campers"... As to air matresses I have the Queen size, double height Coleman... It's nearly as comfortable as my home mattress and the height being normal bed height is a big plus... In our 5er, as in most, the bathroom is accessible from the front bedroom or the living room with separate doors for each. In other words, it's between the BR and the LR. The air mattress I'm talking about came from Bed, Bath, and Beyond. It's unlike any I've ever seen before, but it does require 110 volts to use. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 6/3/2013 2:05 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:12:47 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/3/2013 11:37 AM, John H wrote: On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 18:48:34 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 6/2/2013 5:47 PM, John H wrote: On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 10:17:59 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: So a friend has a 36 foot fifth wheel camper. The thing is huge, my wife loves it... the guy is offering it to us for a nominal number, probably get it for about 15 hundred. It's relatively newer looking, everything works, clean inside with one roof leak. New bearings, tires, etc. But it's 36 frekin' feet! That of course means another vehicle, probably a big diesel with dual rears??? The reason I put those three question marks is I don't know what it means... So, what do I need to tow something like that and my other question is if I went with something 10 feet shorter (a 25-6 footer), would I be able to downsize the tow vehicle enough to make a difference in initial cost and gas mileage or with a 26 would I pretty much need the same vehicle... The end game here is getting the wife to go with us to races, and this is the first camper she ever got in that she actually liked.. said she would def go camping with us if we were in that... We are looking at other campers today but for 1500, I don't think I am gonna' find anything like it.. So my questions are all about trucks. Remember, this one is a fifth wheel, so what do I need? What are my options.. Thanks. What are the specs? If nothing else, give us the manufacturer and the model number. A dually doesn't really add all that much to your tow capacity, but it sure uses up a lot more fuel - towing or not. I am pulling about 10, 700 lbs now. I'm using a 2009 Silverado 2500 HD diesel. It pulls the 5er with no problems, and gets right around 15 mpg doing so. If you get a much newer pickup with a diesel, then you have to worry about adding the urea (sp?) when you fill up. That's one of the reasons I bought my truck used. Check out Carmax. I've had great luck with them. John H. Been through a lot of changes since "that" trailer... not going to get a 30+ footer, just don't need that. That being said, we are now looking at a 28 foot Jaylite http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2013-JAYCO-28BHS-JAY-FLIGHT-106492668 It has all the things we need/want. Separate bedrooms (opposite ends of the rig cause I snore loudly), and a couch/living area. Looked at a couple of 19-21 footers that I liked but the "bedrooms" were tent type outcroppings... The whole idea is to get out of the canvas enclosure/the elements so they are out. The 21-26 footers were close but none had the two separated bedrooms AND a living room/couch area... The trailer dry weight is 5400 pounds, plus 650pounds for 80 gallon fresh water tank, 600 pounds of bikes, gear, food and other weight in the trailer for a total of 6650 pounds... The Silverado with the 5.7 says it's good for 7300 pounds towing. The 2500 the with the Gas engine says it will tow 8800 pounds... So, eventually when we find that 28 footer used, we will have to get ourselves into a the least a 1500, and possibly a 2500 to tow it. In the mean time we have decided it was fun looking around and dreaming but for now we got a decent tent, and it's time to get back to work:) I've never filled my fresh water tank. Don't need to waste the money hauling water around. Look at it this way, you didn't need it when you were tenting, so why haul it around now? There are some light weight 5ers running around. They usually have a bed in the upper compartment and a sleep sofa in the living room. The sleep sofa is probably not comfortable, but my wife found an air mattress that is very comfortable. It inflates quickly and the same motor deflates it even more quickly. It was a great idea. John H. Yeah, we usually bring in a couple cases of water and a 35 gallon plastic barrel as most of the places we camp are not "camping" areas, just parking lots with no hookups, or fresh water available... The 640 pound figure was based on a full tank although for a single weekend I think we could do with half a tank at about 300 pounds. We looked at a few with the master bedroom and a nice couch but we still like the separate "rooms" with walls at either end and no having to go by someone to get to the potty at night. I snore and Jess is a light sleeper... There are a few other considerations that are specific to "our sport" that are probably not as important to "campers"... As to air matresses I have the Queen size, double height Coleman... It's nearly as comfortable as my home mattress and the height being normal bed height is a big plus... In our 5er, as in most, the bathroom is accessible from the front bedroom or the living room with separate doors for each. In other words, it's between the BR and the LR. The air mattress I'm talking about came from Bed, Bath, and Beyond. It's unlike any I've ever seen before, but it does require 110 volts to use. John H. Nice, I will look into it. The mattresses in most of the ones we looked at sucked. |
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On Jun 3, 7:19*am, True North wrote:
Kids did sneak onto the lot winter of 2010/2011 and smash the windshield. That's a pathetic shame! Even as a kid i never saw much profit in wrecking out somebody's stuff just for some cheap laughs. Of course,After doing something like that, they'd be the first to scream if vandalized their car/truck. |
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On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 05:02:51 +0100, BountyHunter97 wrote:
JustWaitAFrekinMinute;967621 Wrote: So a friend has a 36 foot fifth wheel camper. The thing is huge, my wife loves it... the guy is offering it to us for a nominal number, probably get it for about 15 hundred. It's relatively newer looking, everything works, clean inside with one roof leak. New bearings, tires, etc. But it's 36 frekin' feet! That of course means another vehicle, probably a big diesel with dual rears??? The reason I put those three question marks is I don't know what it means... So, what do I need to tow something like that and my other question is if I went with something 10 feet shorter (a 25-6 footer), would I be able to downsize the tow vehicle enough to make a difference in initial cost and gas mileage or with a 26 would I pretty much need the same vehicle... The end game here is getting the wife to go with us to races, and this is the first camper she ever got in that she actually liked.. said she would def go camping with us if we were in that... We are looking at other campers today but for 1500, I don't think I am gonna' find anything like it.. So my questions are all about trucks. Remember, this one is a fifth wheel, so what do I need? What are my options.. Thanks. I would be concerned about the roof leak. It could cause more problems down the road. I think he's already written off this fifth wheel. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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