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On 6/2/2013 6:04 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/2/2013 3:05 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...


I don't know where you all got the idea I would drive overloaded... I am
a stickler, ****es people off. Ask Jess someday how I tie stuff down,
even stuff in the trailer... I have a "superstition".. I never move my
truck (with the trailer on) without touching the drivers seat, then
doing a "walk around" which involves just what it says. I walk around
the whole rig looking at tires, lights, connections under the wheels,
locks, look for leaks... left behind equipment etc.. Jess is required to
also do a walk around each and every time we move, even if it's leaving
the gas station a mile after doing a walk around at the house... The
whole thing goes back to about twenty years ago when I let the guys at
Home Depot load my trailer, seeing those 2x10s flying 30 feet in the
air, changed my life... I am a stickler about towing... you guys must
all be thinking of don who we shamed/threatened into getting a bigger
vehicle to tow his rig...

---------------------------------------------

You where originally talking about getting a 36' fifth wheel camper and
were asking the group for tow truck recommendations. You indicated
that you were "leaning" towards a four door (crew cab) Chevy 1500 pickup
with a small block. Those of us with some knowledge and experience
with 5th wheel camper trailers know that you would have exceeded that
truck's towing capacity by a long shot and indeed, you would be
overloaded (and illegal) with that configuration.

That's where I got the idea. You asked and some of us were simply
trying to be helpful.





Right, but some were talking like I was going to do it rather than just
asking...

Oh, I read back and I see that our boy donnie started in by trying to
troll up the thread... Sorry, should have known.

Towing...
 

On 6/2/2013 6:09 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/2/2013 6:04 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/2/2013 3:05 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...


I don't know where you all got the idea I would drive overloaded... I am
a stickler, ****es people off. Ask Jess someday how I tie stuff down,
even stuff in the trailer... I have a "superstition".. I never move my
truck (with the trailer on) without touching the drivers seat, then
doing a "walk around" which involves just what it says. I walk around
the whole rig looking at tires, lights, connections under the wheels,
locks, look for leaks... left behind equipment etc.. Jess is required to
also do a walk around each and every time we move, even if it's leaving
the gas station a mile after doing a walk around at the house... The
whole thing goes back to about twenty years ago when I let the guys at
Home Depot load my trailer, seeing those 2x10s flying 30 feet in the
air, changed my life... I am a stickler about towing... you guys must
all be thinking of don who we shamed/threatened into getting a bigger
vehicle to tow his rig...

---------------------------------------------

You where originally talking about getting a 36' fifth wheel camper and
were asking the group for tow truck recommendations. You indicated
that you were "leaning" towards a four door (crew cab) Chevy 1500 pickup
with a small block. Those of us with some knowledge and experience
with 5th wheel camper trailers know that you would have exceeded that
truck's towing capacity by a long shot and indeed, you would be
overloaded (and illegal) with that configuration.

That's where I got the idea. You asked and some of us were simply
trying to be helpful.





Right, but some were talking like I was going to do it rather than just
asking...

Oh, I read back and I see that our boy donnie started in by trying to
troll up the thread... Sorry, should have known.

This thread has lost it's value as an on topic discussion of the subject
line. As the sharks would say, "I'm out".

Towing...
 

In article ,
says...

On 6/1/2013 4:16 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/1/2013 3:51 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 6/1/2013 3:05 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I don't think a truck that size has the brakes to successfully control
and stop a 36' trailer.

------------------------------------------------

Don't think that's the issue so much. The trailer should have brakes
designed to handle it's weight.
The problem is the light duty nature of the truck in terms of engine,
transmission, frame, suspension, etc. To the best of my knowledge a
F-150 or the 1500 series from GM or Dodge are recommended for very small
5th wheel trailers and that's a stretch for them. A 36 footer is going
to weigh in at 12,000 lbs or more. Way too much for a light duty
truck.


Sometimes trailer brakes go hooky falooky on you.

-------------------------------

True. Then you're in deep doo-doo. I don't care what kind of brakes
your truck has .... it's going to have a tough time stopping it plus a
12,000 -14,000 trailer at any kind of speed.

Remember the green '97 Dodge Ram 1500 I had? Towing that old '82
Century ark was a real thrill. The surge brakes didn't work on the
trailer.
I had to plan stops well in advance. If a light turned red and I tried
to stop the damn boat would push me halfway through the intersection.
I think that boat and trailer probably weighed 6,000 to 7,000 lbs.


Scotty, are you listening? ;-)

I don't know where you all got the idea I would drive overloaded... I am
a stickler, ****es people off. Ask Jess someday how I tie stuff down,
even stuff in the trailer... I have a "superstition".. I never move my
truck (with the trailer on) without touching the drivers seat, then
doing a "walk around" which involves just what it says. I walk around
the whole rig looking at tires, lights, connections under the wheels,
locks, look for leaks... left behind equipment etc.. Jess is required to
also do a walk around each and every time we move, even if it's leaving
the gas station a mile after doing a walk around at the house... The
whole thing goes back to about twenty years ago when I let the guys at
Home Depot load my trailer, seeing those 2x10s flying 30 feet in the
air, changed my life... I am a stickler about towing... you guys must
all be thinking of don who we shamed/threatened into getting a bigger
vehicle to tow his rig...

Cool story, bro!

Towing...
 

In article ,
says...

On 6/2/2013 6:04 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/2/2013 3:05 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...


I don't know where you all got the idea I would drive overloaded... I am
a stickler, ****es people off. Ask Jess someday how I tie stuff down,
even stuff in the trailer... I have a "superstition".. I never move my
truck (with the trailer on) without touching the drivers seat, then
doing a "walk around" which involves just what it says. I walk around
the whole rig looking at tires, lights, connections under the wheels,
locks, look for leaks... left behind equipment etc.. Jess is required to
also do a walk around each and every time we move, even if it's leaving
the gas station a mile after doing a walk around at the house... The
whole thing goes back to about twenty years ago when I let the guys at
Home Depot load my trailer, seeing those 2x10s flying 30 feet in the
air, changed my life... I am a stickler about towing... you guys must
all be thinking of don who we shamed/threatened into getting a bigger
vehicle to tow his rig...

---------------------------------------------

You where originally talking about getting a 36' fifth wheel camper and
were asking the group for tow truck recommendations. You indicated
that you were "leaning" towards a four door (crew cab) Chevy 1500 pickup
with a small block. Those of us with some knowledge and experience
with 5th wheel camper trailers know that you would have exceeded that
truck's towing capacity by a long shot and indeed, you would be
overloaded (and illegal) with that configuration.

That's where I got the idea. You asked and some of us were simply
trying to be helpful.





Right, but some were talking like I was going to do it rather than just
asking...

Oh, I read back and I see that our boy donnie started in by trying to
troll up the thread... Sorry, should have known.

No, he was simply stating what YOU had said awhile back.

Towing...
 

On Saturday, 1 June 2013 23:12:22 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
On Jun 1, 8:40*pm, True North wrote:

On Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:30:10 UTC-3, Tim *wrote:

On Jun 1, 3:33*pm, JustWaitAFrekinMinute



wrote:



On 6/1/2013 3:58 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:



On 6/1/2013 2:26 PM, thumper wrote:



On 6/1/2013 9:59 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:



I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking at



a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3...



I tow my 4500 lb boat with a 5.3L Suburban and while it does fine I



wouldn't want much more weight behind me. *What is the trailer weight



and what kind of brakes does it have? *Check what the vehicle is rated



to tow and leave some margin. *Consider all the crap you load into it.



Yeah, the setup we are considering now is a 17 foot at 3200 pounds. That



leaves me almost 2000 pounds for crap...



Just found this... Hummmmmm...



http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/3781170945.html



...



That's sweet looking, Scott, and i dont' men to downgrade it, but



there's considerations. For one thing it's nice, but it's still a 1



trick pony. *When the motorhome craze got started, it wasn't long



before you saw a lot of Winabago's parked with weeds growing around



them and moss creeping up the north side. *Probably *due to lack of



interest because people found out they weren't or couldn't use them as



much as their dreams said they could. *Annual license and ins. is much



more than a pull behind camper, and 6-8 (maybe 10) mpg. got to be



really heavy.



Also consider... that motor camper is old. and sat most all it;s life..



low miles is good, but age on seals, hoses, tires isn't. Not saying it



would be, but it *could* be a maintenance bucket. *And this isn't



counting the plumbing on the inside...



But on the bright side, mechanically it's old school and nothing you



couldn't handle.



On the really bright side, if one was going to use it in the summer



and make 200 +/- one-way *jaunts on weekends, it might be ideal. *and



you could pull a light bike trailer behind it with little problem.



The thing is to *to use it, IF you *have a use for it



Brother-in-law bought an older Winnebago, used it a couple of times and then set it up on his lakefront lot just outside the city.

Kids broke in, smashed the back window out etc.

Brother in law then stripped engine out and gave it to a local mechanic who planned to put it in a race car.

Now if that clunker is to be moved...it'll have to be towed.



Yeah, that was probably back in the days when they used the 440 Dodge

or later with the 454 GM's.



Was it by chance one of these?



http://www.myrubygirl.com/wp-content.../Winnebago.jpg

Another link in case the first didn't work..
embed width="600" height="361" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowFullscreen="true" allowNetworking="all" wmode="transparent" src="http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf" flashvars="file=http%3A%2F%2Fvidmg.photobucket.com %2Falbums%2Fv252%2Fwhited%2FMVI_0492_1_zps5cdb9fa0 ..mp4"

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On Saturday, 1 June 2013 23:12:22 UTC-3, Tim wrote:


Yeah, that was probably back in the days when they used the 440 Dodge

or later with the 454 GM's.



Was it by chance one of these?



http://www.myrubygirl.com/wp-content.../Winnebago.jpg

Doh! PhotoBucket seems to be updating again.
Try this..

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/whit...b9fa0.mp4.html

Towing...
 

On 6/2/13 9:50 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 1 June 2013 23:12:22 UTC-3, Tim wrote:


Yeah, that was probably back in the days when they used the 440 Dodge

or later with the 454 GM's.



Was it by chance one of these?



http://www.myrubygirl.com/wp-content.../Winnebago.jpg

Doh! PhotoBucket seems to be updating again.
Try this..

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/whit...b9fa0.mp4.html


That link works. I'm wondering if I should switch from photobucket to
something else, but I'm not wondering enough to spend time researching
it. Photobucket keeps making "improvements" I find annoying.

Towing...
 

On 6/2/2013 9:43 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 1 June 2013 23:12:22 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
On Jun 1, 8:40 pm, True North wrote:

On Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:30:10 UTC-3, Tim wrote:

On Jun 1, 3:33 pm, JustWaitAFrekinMinute



wrote:



On 6/1/2013 3:58 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:



On 6/1/2013 2:26 PM, thumper wrote:



On 6/1/2013 9:59 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:



I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking at



a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3...



I tow my 4500 lb boat with a 5.3L Suburban and while it does fine I



wouldn't want much more weight behind me. What is the trailer weight



and what kind of brakes does it have? Check what the vehicle is rated



to tow and leave some margin. Consider all the crap you load into it.



Yeah, the setup we are considering now is a 17 foot at 3200 pounds. That



leaves me almost 2000 pounds for crap...



Just found this... Hummmmmm...



http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/3781170945.html



...



That's sweet looking, Scott, and i dont' men to downgrade it, but



there's considerations. For one thing it's nice, but it's still a 1



trick pony. When the motorhome craze got started, it wasn't long



before you saw a lot of Winabago's parked with weeds growing around



them and moss creeping up the north side. Probably due to lack of



interest because people found out they weren't or couldn't use them as



much as their dreams said they could. Annual license and ins. is much



more than a pull behind camper, and 6-8 (maybe 10) mpg. got to be



really heavy.



Also consider... that motor camper is old. and sat most all it;s life..



low miles is good, but age on seals, hoses, tires isn't. Not saying it



would be, but it *could* be a maintenance bucket. And this isn't



counting the plumbing on the inside...



But on the bright side, mechanically it's old school and nothing you



couldn't handle.



On the really bright side, if one was going to use it in the summer



and make 200 +/- one-way jaunts on weekends, it might be ideal. and



you could pull a light bike trailer behind it with little problem.



The thing is to to use it, IF you have a use for it



Brother-in-law bought an older Winnebago, used it a couple of times and then set it up on his lakefront lot just outside the city.

Kids broke in, smashed the back window out etc.

Brother in law then stripped engine out and gave it to a local mechanic who planned to put it in a race car.

Now if that clunker is to be moved...it'll have to be towed.



Yeah, that was probably back in the days when they used the 440 Dodge

or later with the 454 GM's.



Was it by chance one of these?



http://www.myrubygirl.com/wp-content.../Winnebago.jpg

Another link in case the first didn't work..
embed width="600" height="361" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowFullscreen="true" allowNetworking="all" wmode="transparent" src="http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf" flashvars="file=http%3A%2F%2Fvidmg.photobucket.com %2Falbums%2Fv252%2Fwhited%2FMVI_0492_1_zps5cdb9fa0 ..mp4"

Don't you test your links before you post them?

Towing...
 

On 6/2/2013 6:23 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/2/2013 6:09 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/2/2013 6:04 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/2/2013 3:05 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...


I don't know where you all got the idea I would drive overloaded...
I am
a stickler, ****es people off. Ask Jess someday how I tie stuff down,
even stuff in the trailer... I have a "superstition".. I never move my
truck (with the trailer on) without touching the drivers seat, then
doing a "walk around" which involves just what it says. I walk around
the whole rig looking at tires, lights, connections under the wheels,
locks, look for leaks... left behind equipment etc.. Jess is
required to
also do a walk around each and every time we move, even if it's leaving
the gas station a mile after doing a walk around at the house... The
whole thing goes back to about twenty years ago when I let the guys at
Home Depot load my trailer, seeing those 2x10s flying 30 feet in the
air, changed my life... I am a stickler about towing... you guys must
all be thinking of don who we shamed/threatened into getting a bigger
vehicle to tow his rig...

---------------------------------------------

You where originally talking about getting a 36' fifth wheel camper and
were asking the group for tow truck recommendations. You indicated
that you were "leaning" towards a four door (crew cab) Chevy 1500
pickup
with a small block. Those of us with some knowledge and experience
with 5th wheel camper trailers know that you would have exceeded that
truck's towing capacity by a long shot and indeed, you would be
overloaded (and illegal) with that configuration.

That's where I got the idea. You asked and some of us were simply
trying to be helpful.





Right, but some were talking like I was going to do it rather than just
asking...

Oh, I read back and I see that our boy donnie started in by trying to
troll up the thread... Sorry, should have known.

This thread has lost it's value as an on topic discussion of the subject
line. As the sharks would say, "I'm out".

Maybe for you but I got a hint from harry, and don got a hint from me..
First "useful" posts here in a while.. I still have more questions as we
are going back to look at a Dodge Dakota sxt with the 4.0, rated to tow
6800 pounds, that way we might be able to move up (eventually) to the
4400 pound trailer we were looking at...

Eventually the Dakota would be Jessi's truck and I would get something
else for me. One of the biggest problems with the Jeep is it's so
uncomortable on long trips, the seats are made of wood and dig into the
back of my legs so bad I fear blood clots... def get cramps from it all
the time...

Anyway, for now we may be towing a 1500 pound trailer with a truck rated
for 7000:)

Towing...
 

In article ,
says...

On Saturday, 1 June 2013 23:12:22 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
On Jun 1, 8:40*pm, True North wrote:

On Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:30:10 UTC-3, Tim *wrote:

On Jun 1, 3:33*pm, JustWaitAFrekinMinute



wrote:



On 6/1/2013 3:58 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:



On 6/1/2013 2:26 PM, thumper wrote:



On 6/1/2013 9:59 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:



I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking at



a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3...



I tow my 4500 lb boat with a 5.3L Suburban and while it does fine I



wouldn't want much more weight behind me. *What is the trailer weight



and what kind of brakes does it have? *Check what the vehicle is rated



to tow and leave some margin. *Consider all the crap you load into it.



Yeah, the setup we are considering now is a 17 foot at 3200 pounds. That



leaves me almost 2000 pounds for crap...



Just found this... Hummmmmm...



http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/3781170945.html



...



That's sweet looking, Scott, and i dont' men to downgrade it, but



there's considerations. For one thing it's nice, but it's still a 1



trick pony. *When the motorhome craze got started, it wasn't long



before you saw a lot of Winabago's parked with weeds growing around



them and moss creeping up the north side. *Probably *due to lack of



interest because people found out they weren't or couldn't use them as



much as their dreams said they could. *Annual license and ins. is much



more than a pull behind camper, and 6-8 (maybe 10) mpg. got to be



really heavy.



Also consider... that motor camper is old. and sat most all it;s life.



low miles is good, but age on seals, hoses, tires isn't. Not saying it



would be, but it *could* be a maintenance bucket. *And this isn't



counting the plumbing on the inside...



But on the bright side, mechanically it's old school and nothing you



couldn't handle.



On the really bright side, if one was going to use it in the summer



and make 200 +/- one-way *jaunts on weekends, it might be ideal. *and



you could pull a light bike trailer behind it with little problem.



The thing is to *to use it, IF you *have a use for it



Brother-in-law bought an older Winnebago, used it a couple of times and then set it up on his lakefront lot just outside the city.

Kids broke in, smashed the back window out etc.

Brother in law then stripped engine out and gave it to a local mechanic who planned to put it in a race car.

Now if that clunker is to be moved...it'll have to be towed.



Yeah, that was probably back in the days when they used the 440 Dodge

or later with the 454 GM's.



Was it by chance one of these?



http://www.myrubygirl.com/wp-content.../Winnebago.jpg

Another link in case the first didn't work..
embed width="600" height="361" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowFullscreen="true" allowNetworking="all" wmode="transparent" src="http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf" flashvars="file=http%3A%2F%2Fvidmg.photobucket.com %2Falbums%2Fv252%2Fwhited%2FMVI_0492_1_zps5cdb9fa0 .mp4"

What lake is that?