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On 6/1/2013 2:19 PM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 1 June 2013 14:08:00 UTC-3, Eisboch wrote:
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message

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I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking

at

a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3...



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Very doubtful that would be rated anywhere near high enough for a 36'

fifth wheel. You are going to need a 2500 or F-250 series truck at a

minimum.

Seems to me it was only a year ago that a certain Connecticut poster was threatening to kill me if I somehow injured one of his family members towing my new boat behind the RAV4. (I only tow in Nova Scotia)
Boat rig weighs 2000 lbs...RAV4 rated for 1500 lbs.
Scared me so much I bought the Highlander rated at 5000 lbs. ;-)


What are you saying? I would never overload a tow, that's why we are
asking and why we just spent two hours at a trailer retailer.... You are
the one who suggested you really didn't care much about the ratings...
not me.

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"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 6/1/2013 3:05 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I don't think a truck that size has the brakes to successfully
control
and stop a 36' trailer.

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Don't think that's the issue so much. The trailer should have
brakes
designed to handle it's weight.
The problem is the light duty nature of the truck in terms of
engine,
transmission, frame, suspension, etc. To the best of my knowledge a
F-150 or the 1500 series from GM or Dodge are recommended for very
small
5th wheel trailers and that's a stretch for them. A 36 footer is
going
to weigh in at 12,000 lbs or more. Way too much for a light duty
truck.


Sometimes trailer brakes go hooky falooky on you.

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True. Then you're in deep doo-doo. I don't care what kind of brakes
your truck has .... it's going to have a tough time stopping it plus
a 12,000 -14,000 trailer at any kind of speed.

Remember the green '97 Dodge Ram 1500 I had? Towing that old '82
Century ark was a real thrill. The surge brakes didn't work on the
trailer.
I had to plan stops well in advance. If a light turned red and I
tried to stop the damn boat would push me halfway through the
intersection.
I think that boat and trailer probably weighed 6,000 to 7,000 lbs.

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On 6/1/2013 3:31 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/1/2013 2:19 PM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 1 June 2013 14:08:00 UTC-3, Eisboch wrote:
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message

...





I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking

at

a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3...



----------------------------------



Very doubtful that would be rated anywhere near high enough for a 36'

fifth wheel. You are going to need a 2500 or F-250 series truck at a

minimum.

Seems to me it was only a year ago that a certain Connecticut poster
was threatening to kill me if I somehow injured one of his family
members towing my new boat behind the RAV4. (I only tow in Nova Scotia)
Boat rig weighs 2000 lbs...RAV4 rated for 1500 lbs.
Scared me so much I bought the Highlander rated at 5000 lbs. ;-)

Well, now you can turn the tables and pound some sense into him. You
know what they say. Turn about is fair play.

Problem is, I would never tow over rated... Anything can pull a trailer,
stopping is the issue for me.

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On 6/1/2013 3:05 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I don't think a truck that size has the brakes to successfully control
and stop a 36' trailer.

------------------------------------------------

Don't think that's the issue so much. The trailer should have brakes
designed to handle it's weight.
The problem is the light duty nature of the truck in terms of engine,
transmission, frame, suspension, etc. To the best of my knowledge a
F-150 or the 1500 series from GM or Dodge are recommended for very small
5th wheel trailers and that's a stretch for them. A 36 footer is going
to weigh in at 12,000 lbs or more. Way too much for a light duty truck.



Yeah, we looked at a few trailers today. The truck is rated 5000 and the
17 foot Cub we looked at today comes in at 3400... The 23 foot Jayco
Ultralight was real sweet but would butt right up against the limits at
4400 pounds and even used was pretty expensive. We are considering the
17 footer used, it has everything I need. Two seperate bedrooms for me
and Jess. Bath, shower, toilet. Propane stove, fridge, heat.... weighs
in at 3200 ponds.

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On 6/1/2013 2:26 PM, thumper wrote:
On 6/1/2013 9:59 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking at
a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3...

I tow my 4500 lb boat with a 5.3L Suburban and while it does fine I
wouldn't want much more weight behind me. What is the trailer weight
and what kind of brakes does it have? Check what the vehicle is rated
to tow and leave some margin. Consider all the crap you load into it.

Yeah, the setup we are considering now is a 17 foot at 3200 pounds. That
leaves me almost 2000 pounds for crap...

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On 6/1/2013 3:51 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 6/1/2013 3:05 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I don't think a truck that size has the brakes to successfully control
and stop a 36' trailer.

------------------------------------------------

Don't think that's the issue so much. The trailer should have brakes
designed to handle it's weight.
The problem is the light duty nature of the truck in terms of engine,
transmission, frame, suspension, etc. To the best of my knowledge a
F-150 or the 1500 series from GM or Dodge are recommended for very small
5th wheel trailers and that's a stretch for them. A 36 footer is going
to weigh in at 12,000 lbs or more. Way too much for a light duty truck.


Sometimes trailer brakes go hooky falooky on you.

-------------------------------

True. Then you're in deep doo-doo. I don't care what kind of brakes
your truck has .... it's going to have a tough time stopping it plus a
12,000 -14,000 trailer at any kind of speed.

Remember the green '97 Dodge Ram 1500 I had? Towing that old '82
Century ark was a real thrill. The surge brakes didn't work on the
trailer.
I had to plan stops well in advance. If a light turned red and I tried
to stop the damn boat would push me halfway through the intersection.
I think that boat and trailer probably weighed 6,000 to 7,000 lbs.


Scotty, are you listening? ;-)

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On 6/1/13 3:51 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 6/1/2013 3:05 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I don't think a truck that size has the brakes to successfully control
and stop a 36' trailer.

------------------------------------------------

Don't think that's the issue so much. The trailer should have brakes
designed to handle it's weight.
The problem is the light duty nature of the truck in terms of engine,
transmission, frame, suspension, etc. To the best of my knowledge a
F-150 or the 1500 series from GM or Dodge are recommended for very small
5th wheel trailers and that's a stretch for them. A 36 footer is going
to weigh in at 12,000 lbs or more. Way too much for a light duty truck.


Sometimes trailer brakes go hooky falooky on you.

-------------------------------

True. Then you're in deep doo-doo. I don't care what kind of brakes
your truck has .... it's going to have a tough time stopping it plus a
12,000 -14,000 trailer at any kind of speed.

Remember the green '97 Dodge Ram 1500 I had? Towing that old '82
Century ark was a real thrill. The surge brakes didn't work on the
trailer.
I had to plan stops well in advance. If a light turned red and I tried
to stop the damn boat would push me halfway through the intersection.
I think that boat and trailer probably weighed 6,000 to 7,000 lbs.




After my father died and I was selling off the boat store inventory, I
had to deliver a new 22' Cruisers, Inc., cabin boat I had sold to a
customer who wanted to take delivery a bit later in the year at a local
marina. My dad had a Ford stake truck to tow boats and trailers for
"dry" deliveries. There were no brakes on the boat trailer, at least
none of which I was aware. I was exiting the Connecticut Turnpike near
Campbell Avenue by the waterfront in West Haven, and I almost lost the
truck, the trailer and the boat, right over the barrier on the curved
exit. The truck's brakes when towing a boat were for ****. Pretty scary
couple of moments, but we lucked out and I was able to stop the damned
thing. This was in 1973. I didn't own a trailer boat until the early
1990's, but the first thing I looked for was that what I bought had a
trailer with decent brakes.

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On 6/1/2013 4:19 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/1/13 3:51 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 6/1/2013 3:05 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I don't think a truck that size has the brakes to successfully control
and stop a 36' trailer.

------------------------------------------------

Don't think that's the issue so much. The trailer should have brakes
designed to handle it's weight.
The problem is the light duty nature of the truck in terms of engine,
transmission, frame, suspension, etc. To the best of my knowledge a
F-150 or the 1500 series from GM or Dodge are recommended for very small
5th wheel trailers and that's a stretch for them. A 36 footer is going
to weigh in at 12,000 lbs or more. Way too much for a light duty
truck.


Sometimes trailer brakes go hooky falooky on you.

-------------------------------

True. Then you're in deep doo-doo. I don't care what kind of brakes
your truck has .... it's going to have a tough time stopping it plus a
12,000 -14,000 trailer at any kind of speed.

Remember the green '97 Dodge Ram 1500 I had? Towing that old '82
Century ark was a real thrill. The surge brakes didn't work on the
trailer.
I had to plan stops well in advance. If a light turned red and I tried
to stop the damn boat would push me halfway through the intersection.
I think that boat and trailer probably weighed 6,000 to 7,000 lbs.




After my father died and I was selling off the boat store inventory, I
had to deliver a new 22' Cruisers, Inc., cabin boat I had sold to a
customer who wanted to take delivery a bit later in the year at a local
marina. My dad had a Ford stake truck to tow boats and trailers for
"dry" deliveries. There were no brakes on the boat trailer, at least
none of which I was aware. I was exiting the Connecticut Turnpike near
Campbell Avenue by the waterfront in West Haven, and I almost lost the
truck, the trailer and the boat, right over the barrier on the curved
exit. The truck's brakes when towing a boat were for ****. Pretty scary
couple of moments, but we lucked out and I was able to stop the damned
thing. This was in 1973. I didn't own a trailer boat until the early
1990's, but the first thing I looked for was that what I bought had a
trailer with decent brakes.

They all start out with "decent" brakes. They take a beating in use.
It's up to you to maintain them in "decent" condition.

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On 6/1/2013 3:58 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/1/2013 2:26 PM, thumper wrote:
On 6/1/2013 9:59 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking at
a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3...

I tow my 4500 lb boat with a 5.3L Suburban and while it does fine I
wouldn't want much more weight behind me. What is the trailer weight
and what kind of brakes does it have? Check what the vehicle is rated
to tow and leave some margin. Consider all the crap you load into it.

Yeah, the setup we are considering now is a 17 foot at 3200 pounds. That
leaves me almost 2000 pounds for crap...


Just found this... Hummmmmm...

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/3781170945.html

....

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On Jun 1, 12:48*pm, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:
On 6/1/2013 1:38 PM, Tim wrote:









On Jun 1, 12:08 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" *wrote in message

...

I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking
at
a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3...

----------------------------------

Very doubtful that would be rated anywhere near high enough for a 36'
fifth wheel. * You are going to need a 2500 or F-250 series truck at a
minimum.

I agree with Rich. a 1500 is a 'heavy half' tone truck. and is light
for the load. I've never seen a 1500 set up for a 5th wheel, and the
5.3 will pull it but it'd have to work at it.

Yeah... I am brought back to another of my dads' words of wisdom... He
said, "a guy can offer you a brand new caddilac for 50 bucks but if you
don't need a caddilac, or don't have the 50 bucks, it's still not a good
deal"...

Might just wait to have something big enough to have mama come along...

Good words. Your dad was wise, Scott.