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On 5/25/2013 8:14 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/25/13 8:08 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/25/2013 2:16 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2013 16:17:12 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

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Zimmerman was also in incidents where there WAS violence and he was
arrested for it. Why do you continue to not answer about that?

Zimmerman was arrested for arguing with a cop. If there was really any
violence, he would have had the **** beat out of him. That was a
hummer.

The Travonn things are very recent and show an increasing degree of
violent activities.
Zimmernan turned his life around, Martin was sinking into the
"gangsta" world as fast as he could.
Bear in mind, he would not have even been in Sanford if he was not
kicked out of school for being a thug.

Bear in mind that Zimmerman has told lies about this case. Funny, you
don't answer to the negative things about Zimmerman, you simply delete
them and carry on your vigilante approach about a kid who is dead and
can't defend himself.

Zimmermans WIFE lied about how much money they had at a bail hearing.
Where is there any evidence that MR Zimmerman lied about the specifics
about the case?


You guys still running this over? LoL, Martin was a thug, he got shot
for it... finished business...

**snerk** Perhaps we will get the chance to say the same about you,
since you are, in fact, nothing more than a sawed-off thug.

And yet you are the one who chases me around all day long with your lame
insults.. Hopefully this type of activity doesn't get our long time
posters to "take on your tactics"... Even worse, my answer here might
just do it...LOL!

That insane babbling made NO sense.

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On 5/25/13 8:17 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/25/2013 8:14 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/25/13 8:08 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/25/2013 2:16 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2013 16:17:12 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Zimmerman was also in incidents where there WAS violence and he was
arrested for it. Why do you continue to not answer about that?

Zimmerman was arrested for arguing with a cop. If there was really any
violence, he would have had the **** beat out of him. That was a
hummer.

The Travonn things are very recent and show an increasing degree of
violent activities.
Zimmernan turned his life around, Martin was sinking into the
"gangsta" world as fast as he could.
Bear in mind, he would not have even been in Sanford if he was not
kicked out of school for being a thug.

Bear in mind that Zimmerman has told lies about this case. Funny, you
don't answer to the negative things about Zimmerman, you simply delete
them and carry on your vigilante approach about a kid who is dead and
can't defend himself.

Zimmermans WIFE lied about how much money they had at a bail hearing.
Where is there any evidence that MR Zimmerman lied about the specifics
about the case?


You guys still running this over? LoL, Martin was a thug, he got shot
for it... finished business...

**snerk** Perhaps we will get the chance to say the same about you,
since you are, in fact, nothing more than a sawed-off thug.

And yet you are the one who chases me around all day long with your lame
insults.. Hopefully this type of activity doesn't get our long time
posters to "take on your tactics"... Even worse, my answer here might
just do it...LOL!

Hey, you are the one who bragged about your best buddies, the "full
patch" outlaw motorcycle gang members. That makes you a thug.

It makes him a sickly puke who needs others to help him out after he
runs his insane mouth.

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On Sat, 25 May 2013 10:08:07 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

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says...

On Fri, 24 May 2013 16:17:12 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Zimmerman was also in incidents where there WAS violence and he was
arrested for it. Why do you continue to not answer about that?

Zimmerman was arrested for arguing with a cop. If there was really any
violence, he would have had the **** beat out of him. That was a
hummer.

Really?:

George Zimmerman has been accused of domestic violence, tussling with a
police officer and for over-speeding.
In 2005, Zimmerman was arrested and charged with "resisting officer with
violence" and "battery of law enforcement officer." Both these felonies
are considered third-degree. Due to his desperate attempts, the charges
were reduced to "resisting officer without violence" and then the only
remaining charge was also completely waived off when he entered an
alcohol education program.

AKA he was arguing with a cop and TOUCHED him.

In the same year (2005), Zimmerman's ex-fiance, Veronica Zuazo, filed a
civil motion for a restraining order, alleging domestic violence. In
retaliation, Zimmerman filed for a retraining order against Zuazo and
both these claims were resolved with both restraining orders granted.

... But there was no actual charge.

The next year, in 2006, Zimmerman was charged with speeding. However,
that case was dismissed because the officer who charged him failed to
show up at the court.

Eeek a speeding ticket. I bet you never had one.

All bull****



The Travonn things are very recent and show an increasing degree of
violent activities.
Zimmernan turned his life around, Martin was sinking into the
"gangsta" world as fast as he could.
Bear in mind, he would not have even been in Sanford if he was not
kicked out of school for being a thug.

Bear in mind that Zimmerman has told lies about this case. Funny, you
don't answer to the negative things about Zimmerman, you simply delete
them and carry on your vigilante approach about a kid who is dead and
can't defend himself.

Zimmermans WIFE lied about how much money they had at a bail hearing.
Where is there any evidence that MR Zimmerman lied about the specifics
about the case?


1. HE told police he had a clean record when taken in. That is a
complete lie, see above.

He had one charge that was dropped when he went into a diversion
program.

So, he LIED...

2.When Zimmerman offered an apology to Trayvon's family during an April
20 bond hearing, Zimmerman said he didn't realize Trayvon was so young.
But in his call to police moments before the shooting he described
Trayvon, who was 17, as in his "late teens."

Maybe he was fooled by those 13 year old pictures.

HE LIED. ****, he either lied to the cops when he told them the kid was
in his "late teens", OR he lied to the dead kid's parents when he told
them he didn't realize he was so young. Which is it?


And of course, I guess you are trying to say that Shellie Zimmerman lied
about the finances without George knowing about it? Well, that's pure
bull**** too, HE told her to pay off their AMEX card among other things.
I'll ask again, why do you continue to take stock in a KNOWN violent
person and KNOWN liar? I guess it's easy to pin stuff on a dead kid, eh?

again nothing about the elements of the case

Just as much as Treyvon's past has nothing to do with "the elements" of
the case.

On the other hand Martin is emerging as the violent drug dealing, gun
dealing thief Zimmerman suspected and who likes to beat on people.
The serial number is visible on that picture of the gun he was
selling. What do you want to bet, it is stolen? We still have not
heard from the Miami cops. I bet they know mr Martin a lot better than
we have heard about.

Good case for gun control. Thank you.

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On Sat, 25 May 2013 11:21:44 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

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2.When Zimmerman offered an apology to Trayvon's family during an April
20 bond hearing, Zimmerman said he didn't realize Trayvon was so young.
But in his call to police moments before the shooting he described
Trayvon, who was 17, as in his "late teens."

Maybe he was fooled by those 13 year old pictures.

HE LIED. ****, he either lied to the cops when he told them the kid was
in his "late teens", OR he lied to the dead kid's parents when he told
them he didn't realize he was so young. Which is it?

When is a statement trying to console parents sworn testimony. He
might have said Travonn was a nice kid too but that would be a lie.

And of course, I guess you are trying to say that Shellie Zimmerman lied
about the finances without George knowing about it? Well, that's pure
bull**** too, HE told her to pay off their AMEX card among other things.
I'll ask again, why do you continue to take stock in a KNOWN violent
person and KNOWN liar? I guess it's easy to pin stuff on a dead kid, eh?

again nothing about the elements of the case

Just as much as Treyvon's past has nothing to do with "the elements" of
the case.

It certainly goes to whether Trayvonn was the agressor. Maybe he was
taking out his frustration that the last guy he brags about beating
up" didn't bleed "nuff" on Zimmerman
It was the same punch in the nose, then followed by beating his head
on the concrete, demonstrated by pictures from the scene.

Oh, man.... Okay, please show what evidence you have that Martin punched
and beat his head into the concrete. The KNOWN LIAR'S statement? The
physical evidence? Simply stupid to come to a conclusion using those. 1.
Zimmerman is a KNOWN liar, and KNOWN to be prone to violence. 2. Do you
not think that when confronted in the dark by an assailant that Martin
shouldn't have defended himself? See, two perfectly plausible things
that blows your theory (or should I say FOX interpretation) of the
events.


On the other hand Martin is emerging as the violent drug dealing, gun
dealing thief Zimmerman suspected and who likes to beat on people.
The serial number is visible on that picture of the gun he was
selling. What do you want to bet, it is stolen? We still have not
heard from the Miami cops. I bet they know mr Martin a lot better than
we have heard about.

Good case for gun control. Thank you.


What kind of gun control law stops a thief like Martin from stealing a
gun. Obviously the law against him even having one didn't work.

No guns = no gun thefts.

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On Sat, 25 May 2013 16:14:31 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 25 May 2013 14:24:02 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 25 May 2013 11:21:44 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

2.When Zimmerman offered an apology to Trayvon's family during an April
20 bond hearing, Zimmerman said he didn't realize Trayvon was so young.
But in his call to police moments before the shooting he described
Trayvon, who was 17, as in his "late teens."

Maybe he was fooled by those 13 year old pictures.

HE LIED. ****, he either lied to the cops when he told them the kid was
in his "late teens", OR he lied to the dead kid's parents when he told
them he didn't realize he was so young. Which is it?

When is a statement trying to console parents sworn testimony. He
might have said Travonn was a nice kid too but that would be a lie.

And of course, I guess you are trying to say that Shellie Zimmerman lied
about the finances without George knowing about it? Well, that's pure
bull**** too, HE told her to pay off their AMEX card among other things.
I'll ask again, why do you continue to take stock in a KNOWN violent
person and KNOWN liar? I guess it's easy to pin stuff on a dead kid, eh?

again nothing about the elements of the case

Just as much as Treyvon's past has nothing to do with "the elements" of
the case.

It certainly goes to whether Trayvonn was the agressor. Maybe he was
taking out his frustration that the last guy he brags about beating
up" didn't bleed "nuff" on Zimmerman
It was the same punch in the nose, then followed by beating his head
on the concrete, demonstrated by pictures from the scene.

Oh, man.... Okay, please show what evidence you have that Martin punched
and beat his head into the concrete. The KNOWN LIAR'S statement? The
physical evidence? Simply stupid to come to a conclusion using those. 1.
Zimmerman is a KNOWN liar, and KNOWN to be prone to violence. 2. Do you
not think that when confronted in the dark by an assailant that Martin
shouldn't have defended himself? See, two perfectly plausible things
that blows your theory (or should I say FOX interpretation) of the
events.


OK who beat up Zimmerman if Martin didn't do it.

Martin was the one with injuries on his fists.

You might be that stupid but a Florida jury won't be.

Be prepare for a disappointment when Zimmerman walks.


Good case for gun control. Thank you.


What kind of gun control law stops a thief like Martin from stealing a
gun. Obviously the law against him even having one didn't work.

No guns = no gun thefts.

So you are calling for gun confiscation ... at least we know who you
are.
Maybe the NRA is right

You reckon Kevin is serious about giving up his guns?

I doubt it.

John H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

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On Sat, 25 May 2013 14:24:02 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 25 May 2013 11:21:44 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

2.When Zimmerman offered an apology to Trayvon's family during an April
20 bond hearing, Zimmerman said he didn't realize Trayvon was so young.
But in his call to police moments before the shooting he described
Trayvon, who was 17, as in his "late teens."

Maybe he was fooled by those 13 year old pictures.

HE LIED. ****, he either lied to the cops when he told them the kid was
in his "late teens", OR he lied to the dead kid's parents when he told
them he didn't realize he was so young. Which is it?

When is a statement trying to console parents sworn testimony. He
might have said Travonn was a nice kid too but that would be a lie.

And of course, I guess you are trying to say that Shellie Zimmerman lied
about the finances without George knowing about it? Well, that's pure
bull**** too, HE told her to pay off their AMEX card among other things.
I'll ask again, why do you continue to take stock in a KNOWN violent
person and KNOWN liar? I guess it's easy to pin stuff on a dead kid, eh?

again nothing about the elements of the case

Just as much as Treyvon's past has nothing to do with "the elements" of
the case.

It certainly goes to whether Trayvonn was the agressor. Maybe he was
taking out his frustration that the last guy he brags about beating
up" didn't bleed "nuff" on Zimmerman
It was the same punch in the nose, then followed by beating his head
on the concrete, demonstrated by pictures from the scene.

Oh, man.... Okay, please show what evidence you have that Martin punched
and beat his head into the concrete. The KNOWN LIAR'S statement? The
physical evidence? Simply stupid to come to a conclusion using those. 1.
Zimmerman is a KNOWN liar, and KNOWN to be prone to violence. 2. Do you
not think that when confronted in the dark by an assailant that Martin
shouldn't have defended himself? See, two perfectly plausible things
that blows your theory (or should I say FOX interpretation) of the
events.


OK who beat up Zimmerman if Martin didn't do it.

No one. THAT'S your problem, I get it now! You simply aren't capable of
any thought other than Martin "beat up" Zimmerman.

Martin was the one with injuries on his fists.

From being attacked by Zimmerman.

You might be that stupid but a Florida jury won't be.

Oh, so someone is stupid if they aren't narrow minded and can only think
of one scenario? Got it.

Be prepare for a disappointment when Zimmerman walks.


Good case for gun control. Thank you.


What kind of gun control law stops a thief like Martin from stealing a
gun. Obviously the law against him even having one didn't work.

No guns = no gun thefts.

So you are calling for gun confiscation ... at least we know who you
are.
Maybe the NRA is right

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On Sat, 25 May 2013 17:14:08 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

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OK who beat up Zimmerman if Martin didn't do it.

No one. THAT'S your problem, I get it now! You simply aren't capable of
any thought other than Martin "beat up" Zimmerman.

Martin was the one with injuries on his fists.

From being attacked by Zimmerman.

Un ****ing believable
Now you think Zimmerman hit Martin in the fist with his nose.

I'm sorry, where did I say that? Zimmerman may very well have attacked
Martin and Martin defended himself. What isn't plausible about that
scenerio, since Zimmermans SAID he was going to follow Martin, and
Martin said to his girlfriend that he was being followed, and asked him
why are you following me?


You might be that stupid but a Florida jury won't be.

Oh, so someone is stupid if they aren't narrow minded and can only think
of one scenario? Got it.

Certainly not the one you propose above.
The more we find out about what a thug, thief, drug runner, gun runner
and all around criminal Martin was, the more this looks like a public
service homicide.
He was going to die face down in a pool of blood, no matter what. It
is unfortunate it wasn't just another thug doing it.

You STILL are in denial. You say these things about Martin's past, but
you completely deny Zimmerman's past!!!!!

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On Sun, 26 May 2013 12:47:39 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Zimmerman may very well have attacked
Martin and Martin defended himself.

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You have to ask yourself what Zimmerman's motive for attack would be.
He already had the police on the way. He already had Martin under
surveilance. Why would he attack? It doesn't add up.

The good news is that this is going to court soon and all of the
evidence wii be out there - everything that this boating newsgroup
needs to render a verdict. :-)

Personally I think they are both guilty: Zimmerman for using a tad of
bad judgement; and Martin for assaulting Zimmerman's bullet, errr,
nose.

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On Sun, 26 May 2013 12:47:39 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

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From being attacked by Zimmerman.

Un ****ing believable
Now you think Zimmerman hit Martin in the fist with his nose.

I'm sorry, where did I say that? Zimmerman may very well have attacked
Martin and Martin defended himself. What isn't plausible about that
scenerio, since Zimmermans SAID he was going to follow Martin, and
Martin said to his girlfriend that he was being followed, and asked him
why are you following me?

Where is the existence that Zimmerman did anything but follow Martin,
perfectly legal.

The confrontation.

That is particularly true since Zimmerman was acting as the HOA agent
on PRIVATE property and Martin was a stranger.

That doesn't mean that Zimmerman had the right to assault Martin, and
that MAY be the case.

You might be that stupid but a Florida jury won't be.

Oh, so someone is stupid if they aren't narrow minded and can only think
of one scenario? Got it.

Certainly not the one you propose above.
The more we find out about what a thug, thief, drug runner, gun runner
and all around criminal Martin was, the more this looks like a public
service homicide.
He was going to die face down in a pool of blood, no matter what. It
is unfortunate it wasn't just another thug doing it.

You STILL are in denial. You say these things about Martin's past, but
you completely deny Zimmerman's past!!!!!

Martin's activity was hardly in his PAST. He was dealing drugs and in
possession of at least THREE illegal guns 2 of which he was trying to
sell right before he was shot. (a .22, a .380 and the 40 SW in the
picture).

"Right before he was shot" is PURE BULL****.


We still have not heard about the disposition of the jewelry
he was caught with. I bet the Miami cops were told by the DA to sit on
all of this. Their case is going to be tough enough without cops
saying they know martin.

AGAIN, you sure like digging up a dead kid's past who can't defend
himself, but you say NOTHING about Zimmerman's very checkered past.
Hmmm...

O'mara is collecting all of this because he is looking at the civil
case that will be brought after his client is acquitted in criminal
court. I also believe that is why they have postponed the immunity
hearing. After the acquittal, a judge will have the political cover to
invoke SYG immunity.
In a civil court all of this will come in along with everyone Martin
has beaten up and everyone he has stolen from.

Zimmermans trouble with the cop was 7 years ago, it was finally
determined to be resisting arrest without violence, the restraining
order was not accompanied by any charges, and a speeding ticket.

No, it was NOT "determined" to be without violence. He was allowed to
plead to a lesser charge and that happens in Florida courts every day.
It does by no means mean he wasn't guilty as originally charged. So, the
restraining order, in your eyes, was granted because he was a great,
upstanding citizen? Also, based on the times and distances Zimmerman
said he covered, Zimmerman would have still been on the phone with
Sanford police when he claims he was attacked by Martin. And if
Zimmerman's retelling of the event were accurate, the confrontation
Zimmerman described with Martin would have occurred much sooner than it
actually did, as well as Zimmerman covered more time and distance after
leaving his truck that night than he revealed to police. THOSE pesky
facts sure make it sound like Zimmerman ran after and attacked Martin!

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In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 May 2013 12:47:39 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Zimmerman may very well have attacked
Martin and Martin defended himself.

====

You have to ask yourself what Zimmerman's motive for attack would be.
He already had the police on the way. He already had Martin under
surveilance. Why would he attack? It doesn't add up.

Neither does his pursuing Martin anyway, when the dispatcher told him
they didn't need him doing that.

The good news is that this is going to court soon and all of the
evidence wii be out there - everything that this boating newsgroup
needs to render a verdict. :-)

Personally I think they are both guilty: Zimmerman for using a tad of
bad judgement; and Martin for assaulting Zimmerman's bullet, errr,
nose.