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Jonathan Ganz November 12th 03 05:53 PM

Importing
 
That would be something like California and Britain.

Does Canada have a GDP? :-)

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
I'll make sure to make that available to Canadian Customs.... which says
duties may be imposed.

Free Trade sucks so much backwash! I hate it! It only makes any sense when
both signators have a reasonably close GDP.

CM




"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
| Wrong. Recreational yachts built in Canada, Mexico, and a variety of
other countries are duty free.
| But please, consult with Customs on this.
|
| http://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff/0310c89.pdf
|
|
| --
| -jeff
|
| "SGD" wrote in message
...
| Duties will be levied for a canadian made (or any other country of
origin).
| You won't have to pay duties on a used US boat because it's US origin.
| Brokers can handle it all.
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| WRONG! There will indeed be duty to be paid. It's that way when
buying in
| the US and importing to Canada.
|
| CM
|
| "Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
|
| | Because of NAFTA, there should be no duties.
|
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|





Jeff Morris November 12th 03 06:04 PM

Importing
 
That file describes duties for bringing products into the USA; I have no idea if the
tariffs are reciprocal.

And I'm baffled at the concept of Canada charging a tariff on a boat that was built in
Canada.

So what don't you like about free trade? Should I have had to pay US Customs a few
thousand buck for buying a Canadian boat? I would think that free trade does more to help
the Canadian builders than to hurt them.



"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
I'll make sure to make that available to Canadian Customs.... which says
duties may be imposed.

Free Trade sucks so much backwash! I hate it! It only makes any sense when
both signators have a reasonably close GDP.

CM




"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
| Wrong. Recreational yachts built in Canada, Mexico, and a variety of
other countries are duty free.
| But please, consult with Customs on this.
|
| http://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff/0310c89.pdf
|
|
| --
| -jeff
|
| "SGD" wrote in message
...
| Duties will be levied for a canadian made (or any other country of
origin).
| You won't have to pay duties on a used US boat because it's US origin.
| Brokers can handle it all.
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| WRONG! There will indeed be duty to be paid. It's that way when
buying in
| the US and importing to Canada.
|
| CM
|
| "Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
|
| | Because of NAFTA, there should be no duties.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|





Capt. Mooron November 12th 03 11:14 PM

Importing
 
A million and a half in Maple Syrup and Back Bacon alone!

CM

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
| That would be something like California and Britain.
|
| Does Canada have a GDP? :-)
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| I'll make sure to make that available to Canadian Customs.... which
says
| duties may be imposed.
|
| Free Trade sucks so much backwash! I hate it! It only makes any sense
when
| both signators have a reasonably close GDP.
|
| CM
|
|
|
|
| "Jeff Morris" wrote in message
| ...
| | Wrong. Recreational yachts built in Canada, Mexico, and a variety of
| other countries are duty free.
| | But please, consult with Customs on this.
| |
| | http://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff/0310c89.pdf
| |
| |
| | --
| | -jeff
| |
| | "SGD" wrote in message
| ...
| | Duties will be levied for a canadian made (or any other country of
| origin).
| | You won't have to pay duties on a used US boat because it's US
origin.
| | Brokers can handle it all.
| |
| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| | ...
| | WRONG! There will indeed be duty to be paid. It's that way when
| buying in
| | the US and importing to Canada.
| |
| | CM
| |
| | "Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
| |
| | | Because of NAFTA, there should be no duties.
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|



Capt. Mooron November 12th 03 11:17 PM

Importing
 
It does more to screw the local population having to compete with prices
willing to be paid by a more affluent US consumer. It does nothing to stem
protectionist tariffs and duties arbitrarily imposed by the US against
Canadian goods.

We gain nothing from Free Trade....

CM

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
| That file describes duties for bringing products into the USA; I have no
idea if the
| tariffs are reciprocal.
|
| And I'm baffled at the concept of Canada charging a tariff on a boat that
was built in
| Canada.
|
| So what don't you like about free trade? Should I have had to pay US
Customs a few
| thousand buck for buying a Canadian boat? I would think that free trade
does more to help
| the Canadian builders than to hurt them.
|
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| I'll make sure to make that available to Canadian Customs.... which
says
| duties may be imposed.
|
| Free Trade sucks so much backwash! I hate it! It only makes any sense
when
| both signators have a reasonably close GDP.
|
| CM
|
|
|
|
| "Jeff Morris" wrote in message
| ...
| | Wrong. Recreational yachts built in Canada, Mexico, and a variety of
| other countries are duty free.
| | But please, consult with Customs on this.
| |
| | http://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff/0310c89.pdf
| |
| |
| | --
| | -jeff
| |
| | "SGD" wrote in message
| ...
| | Duties will be levied for a canadian made (or any other country of
| origin).
| | You won't have to pay duties on a used US boat because it's US
origin.
| | Brokers can handle it all.
| |
| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| | ...
| | WRONG! There will indeed be duty to be paid. It's that way when
| buying in
| | the US and importing to Canada.
| |
| | CM
| |
| | "Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
| |
| | | Because of NAFTA, there should be no duties.
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|



katysails November 13th 03 06:07 AM

Importing
 
Free Trade sucks so much backwash! I hate it! It only makes any sense =
when
both signators have a reasonably close GDP.

Since we've shipped all our industry to Mexico since NAFTA and done =
ourselves in economically, I have to agree...

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Jonathan Ganz November 13th 03 08:18 AM

Importing
 
Actually, we're the most productive workers on the planet.

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Free Trade sucks so much backwash! I hate it! It only makes any sense when
both signators have a reasonably close GDP.

Since we've shipped all our industry to Mexico since NAFTA and done
ourselves in economically, I have to agree...

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



katysails November 13th 03 12:02 PM

Importing
 
Actually, we're the most productive workers on the planet.

Yes, we are, and that has nothing to do with it. We are also the most =
highly paid productive workers on the planet which makes the profit =
margins for corporations shrink...so they are moving to Mexico where =
labor isn't quite as productive but is way, way cheaper.

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Jonathan Ganz November 13th 03 05:53 PM

Importing
 
Ultimately, the only way to improve the situation is for US
workers to be even more productive. Protection won't work
in the long term.

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Actually, we're the most productive workers on the planet.

Yes, we are, and that has nothing to do with it. We are also the most
highly paid productive workers on the planet which makes the profit margins
for corporations shrink...so they are moving to Mexico where labor isn't
quite as productive but is way, way cheaper.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Vito November 14th 03 01:27 PM

Importing
 
Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Ultimately, the only way to improve the situation is for US
workers to be even more productive. ...


Unfortunately, it's not that simple.

The bottom line is what an item costs to produce, which includes labor
but many other costs we'd rather ignore. For example, our draconian
environmental statutes add more to production costs than does labor for
many industrial operations such as chrome plating. These regulations are
a major reason heavy industry has fled the U.S. Moreover, increasing
per-worker productivity requires automation which costs money and itself
puts people out of work. That new robomachine that allows one operator
to do the work of ten not only costs big bucks, which must be added to
the items it produces, but puts nine workers on the street. It may be
more profitable to move to a 3rd world country than raise the capital to
buy the new machine, especially if buying it means downsizing anyway.

Now consider what happens when productivity becomes so high that
everything is made by machines, without labor. Without jobs, nobody can
buy anything and without sales there are no profits and ...

666 November 14th 03 01:42 PM

Importing
 
.... you all work for microsoft ;-))
JaC

=20
Without jobs, nobody can buy anything and without sales there are no =

profits and ..


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