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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:48:04 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:58:28 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:19:30 -0400, wrote: But states DO make laws. Exactly and the 10th amendment protects the rights STATE laws convey. That is why DOMA would be tossed as a 10th amendment issue. New York recognized Edie's marriage and the federal government did not, with no constitutional authority to regulate marriage in any way. There are multiple issues with it, but it comes down to equal protection. But, of course, you are a legal scolar, as well as a PhD in physics, astrophysics, and metaphysics, so we all defer to you on all subjects. One would only have to pay attention in middle school to know more than you. So, what's your excuse? |
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:47:08 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:56:38 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:57:25 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:44:58 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. The issue with DOMA is not the state making a law that infringes on the right of a citizen, it is the state writing a law that gives the citizen more rights and the federal government taking that right away. It's denying rights on a FEDERAL level.. DOMA IS A FEDERAL LAW. Equal Protection under the law. That's being denied. D'oh. Which part of "No state shall make or enforce any law..." are you having trouble with? The 14th amendment is NOT about federal laws. It's about equal protection. That's what it says. The states are not allowing such protection. Which part of equal protection don't you understand? I understand that DOMA has nothing to do with STATES denying equal protection. Striking down DOMA means that the states can decide for themselves about marriage. That was the case in other situations, and that will be the case here. Hence the 10th amendment. Dickbrain... DOMA is a FEDERAL law. |
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:19:57 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:18:56 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:47:08 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:56:38 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:57:25 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:44:58 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. The issue with DOMA is not the state making a law that infringes on the right of a citizen, it is the state writing a law that gives the citizen more rights and the federal government taking that right away. It's denying rights on a FEDERAL level.. DOMA IS A FEDERAL LAW. Equal Protection under the law. That's being denied. D'oh. Which part of "No state shall make or enforce any law..." are you having trouble with? The 14th amendment is NOT about federal laws. It's about equal protection. That's what it says. The states are not allowing such protection. Which part of equal protection don't you understand? I understand that DOMA has nothing to do with STATES denying equal protection. Striking down DOMA means that the states can decide for themselves about marriage. That was the case in other situations, and that will be the case here. Hence the 10th amendment. Dickbrain... DOMA is a FEDERAL law. The 14th amendment has NOTHING to do with federal laws. Try to keep up. Holy Christ! It has everything to do with federal AND state laws. Try not to be particularly stupid. |
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On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 01:55:00 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:08:41 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:45:44 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:24:07 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: The 14th amendment has NOTHING to do with federal laws. Try to keep up. Holy Christ! It has everything to do with federal AND state laws. Try not to be particularly stupid. You cited it All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Where does it say anything about federal laws. It says "No State..." The FEDERAL law says "no state". Did you get through fourth grade? Cause it's not obvious. DOMA is not a state law. it is a federal law. No state wrote DOMA Nice try. That's not the subject of your recent bull****. |
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