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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 01:03:41 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:43:47 -0700, Urin Asshole
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:16:22 -0400,
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:07:55 -0700, Urin Asshole
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So you would like to overturn the constitution and Bill of Rights??

It's important to remember that there is a reason for the way things
are.

These two cases have nothing to do with any such action. A lot of
"reasons the way things are" have to do with antiquated views and
fear. That argument doesn't stand for very long.

Actually the decision overturning DOMA may end up citing the 9th and
10th amendment.


SCOTUS tea leaves are hard to read...

Maybe, but it seems more likely it'll be 14:

Amendment XIV

Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to
the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the
state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law
which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life,
liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any
person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


The issue with DOMA is not the state making a law that infringes on
the right of a citizen, it is the state writing a law that gives the
citizen more rights and the federal government taking that right away.


It's denying rights on a FEDERAL level.. DOMA IS A FEDERAL LAW. Equal
Protection under the law. That's being denied. D'oh.

That is a 10th amendment issue.

I suppose someone might try to apply the 14th amendment like they do
in the drug war.
The federal government says a state can not deny you the right to rot
in a federal prison for having a state sanctioned medical marijuana
joint.


Come on. Don't stretch too much, you'll hurt yourself.
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:19:30 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:06:47 -0400, iBoaterer
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In article ,
says...

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:44:58 -0700, Urin Asshole
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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to
the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the
state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law
which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life,
liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any
person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The issue with DOMA is not the state making a law that infringes on
the right of a citizen, it is the state writing a law that gives the
citizen more rights and the federal government taking that right away.

It's denying rights on a FEDERAL level.. DOMA IS A FEDERAL LAW. Equal
Protection under the law. That's being denied. D'oh.

Which part of "No state shall make or enforce any law..." are you
having trouble with?

The 14th amendment is NOT about federal laws.


But states DO make laws.


Exactly and the 10th amendment protects the rights STATE laws convey.
That is why DOMA would be tossed as a 10th amendment issue.
New York recognized Edie's marriage and the federal government did
not, with no constitutional authority to regulate marriage in any way.


There are multiple issues with it, but it comes down to equal
protection. But, of course, you are a legal scolar, as well as a PhD
in physics, astrophysics, and metaphysics, so we all defer to you on
all subjects.
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:57:25 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:44:58 -0700, Urin Asshole
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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to
the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the
state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law
which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life,
liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any
person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The issue with DOMA is not the state making a law that infringes on
the right of a citizen, it is the state writing a law that gives the
citizen more rights and the federal government taking that right away.


It's denying rights on a FEDERAL level.. DOMA IS A FEDERAL LAW. Equal
Protection under the law. That's being denied. D'oh.


Which part of "No state shall make or enforce any law..." are you
having trouble with?

The 14th amendment is NOT about federal laws.


It's about equal protection. That's what it says. The states are not
allowing such protection. Which part of equal protection don't you
understand?

Striking down DOMA means that the states can decide for themselves
about marriage. That was the case in other situations, and that will
be the case here.


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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:47:08 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:56:38 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:57:25 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:44:58 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to
the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the
state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law
which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life,
liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any
person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The issue with DOMA is not the state making a law that infringes on
the right of a citizen, it is the state writing a law that gives the
citizen more rights and the federal government taking that right away.

It's denying rights on a FEDERAL level.. DOMA IS A FEDERAL LAW. Equal
Protection under the law. That's being denied. D'oh.

Which part of "No state shall make or enforce any law..." are you
having trouble with?

The 14th amendment is NOT about federal laws.


It's about equal protection. That's what it says. The states are not
allowing such protection. Which part of equal protection don't you
understand?


I understand that DOMA has nothing to do with STATES denying equal
protection.

Striking down DOMA means that the states can decide for themselves
about marriage. That was the case in other situations, and that will
be the case here.


Hence the 10th amendment.


Dickbrain... DOMA is a FEDERAL law.
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:19:57 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:18:56 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:47:08 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:56:38 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:57:25 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:44:58 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to
the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the
state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law
which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life,
liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any
person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The issue with DOMA is not the state making a law that infringes on
the right of a citizen, it is the state writing a law that gives the
citizen more rights and the federal government taking that right away.

It's denying rights on a FEDERAL level.. DOMA IS A FEDERAL LAW. Equal
Protection under the law. That's being denied. D'oh.

Which part of "No state shall make or enforce any law..." are you
having trouble with?

The 14th amendment is NOT about federal laws.


It's about equal protection. That's what it says. The states are not
allowing such protection. Which part of equal protection don't you
understand?

I understand that DOMA has nothing to do with STATES denying equal
protection.

Striking down DOMA means that the states can decide for themselves
about marriage. That was the case in other situations, and that will
be the case here.

Hence the 10th amendment.


Dickbrain... DOMA is a FEDERAL law.


The 14th amendment has NOTHING to do with federal laws. Try to keep
up.


Holy Christ! It has everything to do with federal AND state laws. Try
not to be particularly stupid.
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