On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:05:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/19/13 12:00 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:14:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional
sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a
significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for
being a professor.

I bet that is true.
They buy what they sell.



Just love the disdain shown here so often for academic achievement.

Well, that's what I'm talking about. He talks the talk of an
open-minded person, but deep down he's just like the rest.

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:49:56 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:58:26 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:11:57 -0400, wrote:

"Mikey" here only works on late model Yamahas and he knows how to say
no if it is a basket case but he is still booked weeks in advance. He
works out of a small SUV without a whole lot of overhead. He does have
a lot of money tied up in tools. That is one reason he only picked a
small range of motors to work on, just to keep the special tool
inventory reasonable. There are plenty of late model Yamahas around.
He really needs a manager tho. I bet he could charge more and I am
sure he could use some time management skills.
That is true of most small businesses tho.

Sure... here you go..

http://www.inc.com/ss/best-industrie...ing-a-business

Yeah those look like great businesses if you have $100,000 - $250,000
to capitalize with.
Some are just ridiculous. A liquor license will set you back closer to
a half million here.
It cost us $70,000 in 1987 to set up a small flower store with used
equipment.


Well, then I guess you'll need something else first. Maybe work for 20
years as an auto-mechanic for someone else, so you can save up to buy
a liquor store. What a fantastic life.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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Just love the disdain shown here so often for academic achievement.

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I don't notice any disdain for academic achievement here. What I
*do* notice is disdain exhibited by some for those who haven't pursued
a college degree for whatever reasons they may have. I've also
noticed that the more formal education some people have, the more they
are of the opinion that the acquisition of degrees and titles
automatically qualifies them as successful or somehow makes them
"superior".

I've known some people with enough advanced technical degrees and
titles to saturate
their business cards with ink but they were worthless in terms of
accomplishing much of anything.
Many of them simply became "professional paper givers" because they
spent most of their careers attending technical conventions and
seminars, giving papers on their latest research or brainfart. Some
of this was valuable and served a purpose within the technical
community but the real work of implementing the information or data
for a useful purpose was left to the grunt engineers and technicians.

Conversely, I've known people who barely made it out of high school
apply themselves in work endeavors with tenacity, making themselves
very valuable employees in the process.

Not knocking college. It's a valuable key to one's career, but it's
not the only key.

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:28:24 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:04:04 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

There's a lot of competition these days for tenure-track
"professor" jobs at colleges and universities.

You have that right. 60 Minutes did a show recently about all of the
post docs looking for work. It is a buyers market.

Why that must contribute at least 4 points to the unemployment
numbers...

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:20:40 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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Just love the disdain shown here so often for academic achievement.

----------------------------------

I don't notice any disdain for academic achievement here. What I
*do* notice is disdain exhibited by some for those who haven't pursued
a college degree for whatever reasons they may have. I've also
noticed that the more formal education some people have, the more they
are of the opinion that the acquisition of degrees and titles
automatically qualifies them as successful or somehow makes them
"superior".

You know I've been around a while, and I have a college degree, and I
don't look down on a plumber or a mechanic. I'm just glad I had the
opportunity to get my degree and not have to fix toilets. Just about
every laborer I've met wants to send their kids to college so they
don't have to fix toilets or cars.


I've known some people with enough advanced technical degrees and
titles to saturate
their business cards with ink but they were worthless in terms of
accomplishing much of anything.

And, I've know plenty of mechanics who couldn't change a tire without
getting someone to read the manual to them. Well, ok, they were just
incopentent and didn't fix whatever they were supposed to fix.

Many of them simply became "professional paper givers" because they
spent most of their careers attending technical conventions and
seminars, giving papers on their latest research or brainfart. Some
of this was valuable and served a purpose within the technical
community but the real work of implementing the information or data
for a useful purpose was left to the grunt engineers and technicians.

Conversely, I've known people who barely made it out of high school
apply themselves in work endeavors with tenacity, making themselves
very valuable employees in the process.

I've know professors who were highly competent and could tear down
anything mechanical, repair it and get it together, same goes with
electronics and programming. I've known some I wouldn't trust to open
a door without hitting htemselves in the head. I've also know people
without even a hs edu that had incredible street sense and good
troubleshooting skills, but almost to a person they wished they'd
stayed in school.

Not knocking college. It's a valuable key to one's career, but it's
not the only key.

Is anyone claiming that?? I didn't read it.

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:18:09 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

Well, then I guess you'll need something else first. Maybe work for 20
years as an auto-mechanic for someone else, so you can save up to buy
a liquor store. What a fantastic life.

===

It's the great American way: work hard, save money, invest in the
future. You have a problem with that? Too bad you didn't inherit
any money from wealthy ancestors. That's the only easy way that has
withstood the test of time.

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:20:40 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Conversely, I've known people who barely made it out of high school
apply themselves in work endeavors with tenacity, making themselves
very valuable employees in the process.

Not knocking college. It's a valuable key to one's career, but it's
not the only key.

====

Absolutely right. Education and knowledge are only valuable to the
extent that you can use them effectively to accomplish something else.

Almost everyone has met an educated fool at one time or another.

On 3/18/2013 6:29 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:46:22 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 3/18/2013 11:53 AM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 06:51:02 -0500, amdx
wrote:



http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-15/cost-of-college-degree-in-u-s-soars-12-fold-chart-of-the-day.html

Extreme college costs are due in a large part to the same philosophy of
the mortgage mess. Everyone should be entitled to a college education so
we'll (the gov't) will give people money to go. SO, the colleges see
this as a cash cow and raise tuition. AND take a look at consumables,
like text books, insanely costly.


You said it iboaterer, Gov't has caused the explosive rise in college
costs. And the mortgage mess was caused by the gov't too! I was so wrong
I thought your answer for everything was more government. Healthcare
inflation is next, but I'm sure you think that will be different.
Mikek


You're a ****in idiot.

You are one angry liberal. Everything is going your way and you're
still mad.

You are one stupid ****.

Calm down, I don't want to be responsible for a stroke!
Mikek


Then take your meds you ****ing moron. Never heard of taking personal
responsibility? I thought that's what all your freaks insist on.

Does your anger ever end?
Please relax, find peace within. Stop and smell the roses.
Does calling others negative names improve your self esteem?
Are you angry that others would take personal responsibility?
You seem to put a negative spin on personal responsibility.
Have a great day, Mikek

On 3/20/2013 7:48 AM, amdx wrote:
On 3/18/2013 6:29 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:46:22 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 3/18/2013 11:53 AM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 06:51:02 -0500, amdx
wrote:



http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-15/cost-of-college-degree-in-u-s-soars-12-fold-chart-of-the-day.html


Extreme college costs are due in a large part to the same
philosophy of
the mortgage mess. Everyone should be entitled to a college
education so
we'll (the gov't) will give people money to go. SO, the colleges
see
this as a cash cow and raise tuition. AND take a look at
consumables,
like text books, insanely costly.


You said it iboaterer, Gov't has caused the explosive rise in
college
costs. And the mortgage mess was caused by the gov't too! I was
so wrong
I thought your answer for everything was more government. Healthcare
inflation is next, but I'm sure you think that will be different.
Mikek


You're a ****in idiot.

You are one angry liberal. Everything is going your way and you're
still mad.

You are one stupid ****.

Calm down, I don't want to be responsible for a stroke!
Mikek


Then take your meds you ****ing moron. Never heard of taking personal
responsibility? I thought that's what all your freaks insist on.

Does your anger ever end?
Please relax, find peace within. Stop and smell the roses.
Does calling others negative names improve your self esteem?
Are you angry that others would take personal responsibility?
You seem to put a negative spin on personal responsibility.
Have a great day, Mikek

kevin, harry, don, and jps are cut from exactly the same mold...

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:19:55 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:20:40 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Conversely, I've known people who barely made it out of high school
apply themselves in work endeavors with tenacity, making themselves
very valuable employees in the process.

Not knocking college. It's a valuable key to one's career, but it's
not the only key.

====

Absolutely right. Education and knowledge are only valuable to the
extent that you can use them effectively to accomplish something else.

Almost everyone has met an educated fool at one time or another.

Perhaps, but never a liberally artsy educated fool!


Salmonbait

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'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.