In article ,
says...

On 3/13/2013 10:06 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:53:13 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:40:32 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

I believe that's where you and our new Pope disagree. He probably equates abortions with the killing
of a precious infant, whereas you seem to equate it with cutting down a weed in your yard.

You know, weed inconvenient? Kill it.

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No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world.

Think about that.

Why? Not according to the right-wing crazies... there's friends of the
fetus but not so much the actual baby.


Do you really expect anybody here to address your nonsense?

Good non-answer.

On 3/14/2013 8:27 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:10:47 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

Ridiculous... Maybe you can't go into the pulpit and get a birth control
pill from the Pastor, but they are not keeping anybody from getting it a
million other places.

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You're entitled to your opinion even though its wrong.


So, where in this country does an adult find herself where she can't
find birth control? Chicago, New York, Kansas? Where is this mythical
place where "the church" has shut down all the Walgreens drug stores?

In article ,
says...

On 3/14/2013 8:05 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world.

Think about that.

There is always birth control and the morning after pill.


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Clearly a good start but for various reasons some women do not have
access to either option. Of course one of the reasons for limited
access is that your church has been adamant about trying to suppress
availability.


Ridiculous... Maybe you can't go into the pulpit and get a birth control
pill from the Pastor, but they are not keeping anybody from getting it a
million other places.

You don't think the church and it's members have a huge influence on the
politicians they donate to?

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says...

"jps" wrote in message
...

Sorry, morals come from observing your parents in action and how they
react to their child's behavior.

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Yesterday, while in line at the supermarket, I was watching the antics
of a kid and his father who were checking out ahead of me.
I'd say the kid was about 8 or 9 years old and the father appeared to
be in his mid 30's.

The kid was a wise-assed brat. He was climbing up on the carts,
ignoring his father's gentle pleading to get down. In defiance the
brat climbed higher on the cart, glared at the father and said, "I
don't like you, and you can't tell me what to do".

The father continued to gently debate with the little brat, softly
asking him to get down. The kid refused. Finally the father bribed
the little brat with a promise to allow him to watch something on TV
when they got home.

The cashier was an older person (like me) in her 60's. We both stood
there in amazement watching the modern father negotiate with his
little brat.

My wife and I raised two boys and a girl. I disciplined the boys.
Mrs. E. took care of the daughter, mainly because the daughter scared
the bananas out of me. If either or both of the boys had ever acted
like the brat I witnessed in the store, they wouldn't be watching TV
sitting down for a while.
Of course, now-a-days, I'd probably go to jail.

Yes, indeed. Much like an animal (I'm not saying that in a bad way) a
kid must be disciplined as soon as possible after the offense so that
it's absolutely sure why the kid is being punished. My sister's boy was
probably 3 or so, and they were in Target, the kid wanted something on
the shelf, she said no, he started throwing a tantrum, when she asked
him to stop or she'd take him home. Now most parent's that would be an
idle threat, they aren't going anywhere until they shopping is done. The
kids learn that. Well, he didn't stop, she yanked him out of the cart,
put him under her arm like a sack of potatoes, screaming and kicking,
right out the door, into the car, home. As far as I know, he hasn't done
that since.

On 3/14/2013 8:31 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 3/13/2013 10:06 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:53:13 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:40:32 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

I believe that's where you and our new Pope disagree. He probably equates abortions with the killing
of a precious infant, whereas you seem to equate it with cutting down a weed in your yard.

You know, weed inconvenient? Kill it.

===

No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world.

Think about that.

Why? Not according to the right-wing crazies... there's friends of the
fetus but not so much the actual baby.


Do you really expect anybody here to address your nonsense?

Good non-answer.


It wasn't a question, it was a reach around one lefty to another...

On 3/14/2013 6:59 AM, Tom Nofinger wrote:
On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:11:23 PM UTC-5, jps wrote:

bull**** snipped

My kids are still in the me, me, me stage but they're still not as

selfish as the wingers in rec.boats.

Naturally you are talking about the selfishness of the left-wingers who enjoy pilfering from the pockets of the right and everyone in between.


Baby lefties never grow out of the Me..Me..Me stage. Tell JPS to get
used to it. It's as good as it gets.

On 3/14/2013 8:05 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world.

Think about that.

There is always birth control and the morning after pill.


====

Clearly a good start but for various reasons some women do not have
access to either option. Of course one of the reasons for limited
access is that your church has been adamant about trying to suppress
availability.


Lame excuse Wayne. If they were creative enough to gain access to the
old woodie, against church doctrine, they should be able to gain access
to remedies for their sins.

On 3/14/13 7:29 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:53:13 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:40:32 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

I believe that's where you and our new Pope disagree. He probably equates abortions with the killing
of a precious infant, whereas you seem to equate it with cutting down a weed in your yard.

You know, weed inconvenient? Kill it.

===

No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world.

Think about that.

There is always birth control and the morning after pill.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!


Unfortunately, religious zealots are interfering with that, too. The
"super religious" really hate women.

On 3/13/2013 10:26 AM, J Herring wrote:

And from where do those without the benefit of a religious upbringing acquire their basic values?

You really don't know?

From empathy, compassion, logic, rational thought, real world
consequences, examples from family and community, etc.

How did you decide which religion was correct and what dogma to obey?

On 3/14/13 12:12 PM, thumper wrote:
On 3/13/2013 10:26 AM, J Herring wrote:

And from where do those without the benefit of a religious upbringing
acquire their basic values?

You really don't know?

From empathy, compassion, logic, rational thought, real world
consequences, examples from family and community, etc.

How did you decide which religion was correct and what dogma to obey?


Herring was raised Catholic but obviously is a Christian in Name Only, a
CINO. I doubt he learned his hatred for blacks, Latinos, gays, from his
church or scripture.