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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 04:13:44 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 1:14:37 PM UTC-5, jps wrote:

From their parents and extended family. We home school our kids in

moral and ethical values. Personal responsibility, eh?

So the why you got rid of your gun is that you don't trust your kids?

http://www.bhpublishinggroup.com/con....asp?article=3

My gun was gone long before I had a wife or kids. I didn't want the
responsibility, nor want to invest in a gun safe. I was more
practical-minded than the idiots who leave their guns unsecured.

Not like a lot of wingers who think guns represent Merican freedom.

Good Christian Upbringing

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:17:40 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:11:23 PM UTC-5, jps wrote:

bull**** snipped

My kids are still in the me, me, me stage but they're still not as

selfish as the wingers in rec.boats.

Naturally you are talking about the selfishness of the left-wingers who enjoy pilfering from the pockets of the right and everyone in between.

Naturally you need to remove your finger from your ass. Your prostate
is fine.

These idiots can't stand that a liberal has been successful at
business and still wants to lend support to folks who haven't been as
lucky.

The Republican mantra: I've got mine, **** you.

Good Christian Upbringing

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:17:05 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/14/13 3:14 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:24:52 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/14/13 1:07 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:53:13 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:40:32 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

I believe that's where you and our new Pope disagree. He probably equates abortions with the killing
of a precious infant, whereas you seem to equate it with cutting down a weed in your yard.

You know, weed inconvenient? Kill it.

===

No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world.

Think about that.

There is always birth control and the morning after pill.

Salmonbait

There would be except that there's a pretty vocal minority on the
right that would ban those things also.

There are several listings of drug stores whose religious proprietors
won't sell the morning after pill.

When I was a kid in New Haven, we were allowed to work some jobs (with a
work permit) after high school. I got a job two afternoons a week
working at a drug store in an "iffy" section of town. This was a small,
family owned store. I was the combination stock boy and soda fountain jerk.

Well, the drug store did a land office business selling liquor, too,
mostly cheap wine and whiskey, but it carried a reasonable variety. The
booze was on display behind the soda fountain. Turned out that selling
the booze was also part of my job. I was 15. :) That didn't bother me at
all.

I also sold condoms, which, as a raunchy teen-aged boy, I thought was a
hoot. At the time, there was some questionable legality about selling
birth control "devices" in Connecticut, or something like that. Anyway,
that's my memory.

I also walked about the neighborhood on deliveries, usually of
prescriptions, but sometimes I delivered booze. I remember one afternoon
I set out with a double brown bag of Four Roses whiskey, a quart of
ginger ale, and a box of condoms. The guy who answered the door and I
looked at each other and laughed. He was a regular customer who recently
had acquired a lady friend.

We never had any trouble with anyone in the neighborhood, poor as it
was. The drug store was the only one for miles around, and I guess
everyone knew if the pharmacist-owner was robbed, he'd just close down
and open up a shop in a safer neighborhood.

Life was simpler back in the day.

You've had some marvelous experiences. I've found that when a store doesn't carry something I need,
I go to another store.

Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!

Yeah, well, you're reasonably well off. If you are poor, carless, and
public transportation is a real hassle, and the only drug store around
is run by a religious zealot, you are S.O.L.

....and in a wheelchair and blind and unable to tell directions....you could go on and on with those
extremely few exceptions. Do you honestly think those cases account for the majority of abortions in
this country.

Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!

Good Christian Upbringing

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:34:53 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 04:13:44 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 1:14:37 PM UTC-5, jps wrote:

From their parents and extended family. We home school our kids in

moral and ethical values. Personal responsibility, eh?

So the why you got rid of your gun is that you don't trust your kids?

http://www.bhpublishinggroup.com/con....asp?article=3

My gun was gone long before I had a wife or kids. I didn't want the
responsibility, nor want to invest in a gun safe. I was more
practical-minded than the idiots who leave their guns unsecured.

Not like a lot of wingers who think guns represent Merican freedom.

What did your gun represent?

Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!

Good Christian Upbringing

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:37:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:17:40 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:11:23 PM UTC-5, jps wrote:

bull**** snipped

My kids are still in the me, me, me stage but they're still not as

selfish as the wingers in rec.boats.

Naturally you are talking about the selfishness of the left-wingers who enjoy pilfering from the pockets of the right and everyone in between.

Naturally you need to remove your finger from your ass. Your prostate
is fine.

These idiots can't stand that a liberal has been successful at
business and still wants to lend support to folks who haven't been as
lucky.

The Republican mantra: I've got mine, **** you.

Do you believe that liberals, in general, are more charitable than conservatives?

Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!

Good Christian Upbringing

On 3/14/2013 2:59 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:27:05 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:10:47 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

Ridiculous... Maybe you can't go into the pulpit and get a birth control
pill from the Pastor, but they are not keeping anybody from getting it a
million other places.

====

You're entitled to your opinion even though its wrong.

Where is he wrong?

Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!

CDS or Christian Derangement Syndrome...

Good Christian Upbringing

On 3/14/2013 12:45 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:59:30 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/14/2013 8:05 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world.

Think about that.

There is always birth control and the morning after pill.

====

Clearly a good start but for various reasons some women do not have
access to either option. Of course one of the reasons for limited
access is that your church has been adamant about trying to suppress
availability.

Lame excuse Wayne. If they were creative enough to gain access to the
old woodie, against church doctrine, they should be able to gain access
to remedies for their sins.

====

And therein lies the problem: Viewing pregnancy and childbirth as a
punishment. That's a very old fasioned notion which has been
carefully fostered by various societies and religions throughout the
ages. We already have more than enough unwanted children running
around with little or no parental leadership. It is a mystery to me
why anyone would wish for more.

And therein lies the strawman... I think John was addressing the same
lame "church supression" jab you made making your point. It's bs unless
you can tell us just exactly where in the US outside the walls of the
churches, "Church Suppression" is keeping women from getting birth
control pills or having an abortion?

Good Christian Upbringing

On 3/14/2013 2:29 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 3/14/2013 12:45 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:59:30 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/14/2013 8:05 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world.

Think about that.

There is always birth control and the morning after pill.

====

Clearly a good start but for various reasons some women do not have
access to either option. Of course one of the reasons for limited
access is that your church has been adamant about trying to suppress
availability.

Lame excuse Wayne. If they were creative enough to gain access to the
old woodie, against church doctrine, they should be able to gain access
to remedies for their sins.

====

And therein lies the problem: Viewing pregnancy and childbirth as a
punishment. That's a very old fasioned notion which has been
carefully fostered by various societies and religions throughout the
ages. We already have more than enough unwanted children running
around with little or no parental leadership. It is a mystery to me
why anyone would wish for more.

You weren't listening. There are remedies that make conception, abortion
or childbirth unnecessary.

And they are available to everybody, period...

Good Christian Upbringing

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:58:48 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:05:05 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:29:55 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child ino the world.

Think about that.

There is always birth control and the morning after pill.

====

Clearly a good start but for various reasons some women do not have
access to either option. Of course one of the reasons for limited
access is that your church has been adamant about trying to suppress
availability.

Do you honestly believe that a great percent of the abortions in this country are due to 'lack of
access' to birth control pills, other methods of birth control, or the morning-after pill? To me
that's like saying voter ID shouldn't be required because it imposes such an imposition on those who
have to have IDs anyway.

The Catholics who practice birth control in accordance with the teachings of the Church most
assuredly do not practice getting abortions. In my opinion, most Catholics, at least in this
country, use birth control methods contrary to the teachings of the Church.

I like ESAD's approach - if you don't want an abortion, don't get one.

I'd say, if you don't want a baby, don't get pregnant.

Salmonbait

Well, you're a ****ing idiot, so we don't care what you believe in
your tiny little head.