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On 2/19/2013 5:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/19/13 5:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


Make cell phones and computer screens blank out at 10 mph.. but they
will never do that...


Yeah...what happens if you are a passenger in a car or on a train or in
a bus?

You really don't know anything about anything.

No harm in disabling ALL cell phones at 10 MPH. Might even save some
lives. You like to save lives don't you. Except fetus's, obviously.
Certainly you remember when these gismos didn't exist. Life went on,
didn't it.

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JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 2/19/2013 7:18 PM, BAR wrote:

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:06:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

Funny how it's the bigger nanny states, they really don't want their
citizens to have a "say" in their government... Mass is a perfect example.

You stupid little fool!!! What does ANY of the above have to do with ANY
state's citizens having a "say" in their government? Do you know
(probably not) that the people that run states are hired BY those
"citizens"? It's called voting.

If I buy a product that just doesn't work out well when I get it home, I
can return it and get a refund.

With an elected official, whey you vote you are making a two year
commitment for any mistakes you have made in your judgment in selecting
the elected official. You can try and return it but often times it isn't
worth the effort.


Sorry, I guess you all missed my meaning. I meant, in the big socialist
states, they don't want you to have guns... For exactly the reason the
second wants us to have them.... I should have been more direct.

I live in one of those socialist states. I can buy whatever firearm I want
to buy. In fact, I can buy several at the same time if I feel like it. So,
once again, you are full of shot.

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On 2/19/2013 6:23 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/19/13 6:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 2/19/2013 6:07 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/19/13 5:39 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 2/19/2013 5:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/19/13 5:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


Make cell phones and computer screens blank out at 10 mph.. but they
will never do that...


Yeah...what happens if you are a passenger in a car or on a train
or in
a bus?

You really don't know anything about anything.


Maybe you could go a few minutes without posting lame insults to
usenet?
But of course typical liberal, that would save millions of lives,
but it
would inconvenience you so of course you are against it. Not like you
are working all that hard to pay back the folks you stole from with
your
several bankruptcies...



And once again you demonstrate you don't know anything about anything.

Do you really think I am gonna' read any of this? LOL!


Hey, most of your posts make absolutely no sense. Why should your latest
idea of having everyone's cells shut off at 10 mph be any different.

Oh...my wife just messaged me from her iPhone. Her commuter bus, the one
on which is she a passenger and the one that travels at more than 10 mph
except when it is stuck in traffic arrived at her stop downtown 10
minutes late so she probably will be home a littler later than usual.

Under your plan, she wouldn't be able to send such a message.

You're a moron.


Not a critical message.

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On 2/19/2013 8:11 PM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:29:00 UTC-4, Meyer wrote:
On 2/19/2013 4:55 PM, Salmonbait wrote:

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:17 -0500, Meyer wrote:



On 2/19/2013 12:52 PM, True North wrote:

On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:37:36 PM UTC-4, wrote:

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:08:57 -0800, jps wrote:







Why is it considered punishment to limit the number of guns and ammo



that are owned by the public?







What would be the point?







Is it punishment that I want to own a tank with the capacity to shell



an area of the desert that wouldn't be affected by my hobby? Why



can't I own surface to air missles so that I can shoot down my own



drones? Why can't I own a mortar setup so I can play with it when I



want to?







Why am I being punished?







That is a red herring, those things have been illegal for 50 years











I wonder what would happen with the suicide stats if guns were



incapable of shooting the person holding them. Would they find



another way? What percentage? Should we make other, less violent



methods available to suicidal persons?







The lack of guns has not affected the suicide rate in Japan, one of



the left's favorite example of gun control.











Lastly, what do you suppose the percentages of young people (let's say



under 20) that die in gun related homicides or suicides vs all those



other maladies? I'm sure a lot die in car accidents but all those



stats above? Not so many.







The ratio of young people who die in cars is pretty close to guns.







Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory



breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat



belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974)



That might save more people than banning guns.





Might not be a bad idea...doesn't seem sensible to put autos on the road capable of double the legal speed...or more.

Some kind of limiter could keep speed down to 75 or so while not limiting towing capacity.



What's the towing capacity of your Rav 4?



If it's a 2009 with a v6, and he's really full of bravado, he can tow 2000lbs. That doesn't mean he

can *stop* it though.





Salmonbait





I don't think he has the gutsy V6 His new boat is 3 times the

princecraft. It's hard to believe he can tow that hefty boat with that

pyrite gray devil of a rave 4.


Actually, it's closer to 4X, StinkyOne.
BTW it's pyrite mica... that would be a very pleasing dark bronze when the sun is shinning.


You got wheel spinners on that chameleon?

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On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:14:53 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:31:29 -0500, Meyer wrote:

That was foad's comment. Are you confused or is foad really urine A.

===

We all know that foad is Harry Krause. Chances are that urinal is
also given Harry's past record of creating peole who agree with him.

There's no chance that you're a sniveling little turd who pretends to
be reasonable. Stink is the same.

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On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:17:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/19/13 8:14 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:31:29 -0500, Meyer wrote:

That was foad's comment. Are you confused or is foad really urine A.

===

We all know that foad is Harry Krause. Chances are that urinal is
also given Harry's past record of creating peole who agree with him.



Sorry, whiner...Mr. Pee ain't me, and when I changed my handle to FOAD,
I announced it here.

It is true, isn't it, that "etc" is your altered ego?

When I change my handle to Wayne Is A Moron, I'll let everyone know.

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On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:27:24 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:31:29 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 2/19/2013 4:57 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:13:19 -0800, Urin Asshole wrote:

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:48:20 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 2/19/13 9:00 AM, Eisboch wrote:
For kicks I looked up the leading causes of death in the USA. Data
is
the final numbers from 2010 as published by the Center for Disease
Control.
Surprisingly, firearms related deaths didn't make the top ten and
firearms related homicides weren't even close to the top ten. It's
interesting that deaths caused by traffic accidents numbered about 3
times those of homicides involving firearms, but all the focus is on
more gun control laws.

Personal note: This is not a excuse of deaths caused by firearms,
but
rather an attempt to put it all in perspective.

Heart disease: 597,689
Cancer: 574,743
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 138,080
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 129,476
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 120,859
Alzheimer's disease: 83,494
Diabetes: 69,071
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,476
Influenza and Pneumonia: 50,097
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 38,364
Traffic accidents: 33,808
Firearms: 30,470 (19,392 suicides, 11,078 homicides)


There are solid statistically based predictions that state that
firearms
deaths will exceed traffic accident deaths in a couple of years.

Oh, you forgot to list the number of Americans who die of old age. :)

On a more serious note, I only took one college-level statistics
course
and have forgotten most of what I ever learned about that sort of
math,
so I asked a family member who has taken four graduate-level stats
courses about these sorts of comparisons (gun deaths vs. car deaths
vs.
cancer deaths, et cetera) and got a chuckle in response. "Such
comparisions are based on silliness and are statistically absurd. Yes,
more people die of cancer than of gunshot wounds but...so what?"

==========================

The number that surprised me was deaths by homicide involving
firearms. I read the same thing you did regarding firearm deaths
exceeding traffic deaths by 2015 however that includes suicides.
Unfortunately, although a gun is the method of choice for most
suicides, further gun restrictions won't eliminate them. As stated
in my post, the data is presented simply to put things in
perspective. 11,078 firearms related homicides is too many of course
but it's a reflection of violence in our society ... which also cannot
be totally eliminated. There are bad people in the world. But the
number is not the huge number that some of the media and proponents of
even more gun control measure would like you to believe.

My state has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation.
Permits require background checks and every purchase of a firearm at a
dealer involves a telephone check and taking of an electronic
fingerprint to verify that you are who you say you are and your permit
is valid. You must present a valid permit even for ammunition
purchases. But, our me-too governor has proposed and is pushing for
even more restrictive laws including jail time for purchasing more
than one firearm per month for existing permit holders, making
getting a permit more difficult, and putting a heavy state tax (up to
50%) on all ammunition sales (even range target practice rounds). I
don't see how that is going to affect the homicide rate by firearms in
the country.
All it is is political posturing in reaction to a horrible but
isolated event caused by a kid who was severely disturbed .... as are
all cases of mass murders.

By that twisted ****ing logic, we might as well do away with the NTSB
and all the other safety protocols, since they result in fewer deaths.
How about faulty cribs. What a load of horse****. You have a product
that's killing 1000s of people, but since it doesn't kill as many as
cancer, it's ok.

Where, Mr. U. Asshole, did he say 'it's OK'?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

You know you live in a Country run by idiots if...
....the death penalty is a 'no-no', but death by Hellfire
*without* a trial is AOK!

That was foad's comment. Are you confused or is foad really urine A.

Nope, count all those little pointy things. It was UrineAsshole for sure. He does do a good job of
imitating ESAD though. I think he's somewhere between Kevin and ESAD.

Salmonbait

You're somewhere between stupid and stupid. Exactly... no difference.

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On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:29:54 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 2/19/2013 7:31 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/19/2013 4:57 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:13:19 -0800, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:48:20 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 2/19/13 9:00 AM, Eisboch wrote:
For kicks I looked up the leading causes of death in the USA. Data
is
the final numbers from 2010 as published by the Center for Disease
Control.
Surprisingly, firearms related deaths didn't make the top ten and
firearms related homicides weren't even close to the top ten. It's
interesting that deaths caused by traffic accidents numbered about 3
times those of homicides involving firearms, but all the focus is on
more gun control laws.

Personal note: This is not a excuse of deaths caused by firearms,
but
rather an attempt to put it all in perspective.

Heart disease: 597,689
Cancer: 574,743
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 138,080
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 129,476
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 120,859
Alzheimer's disease: 83,494
Diabetes: 69,071
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,476
Influenza and Pneumonia: 50,097
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 38,364
Traffic accidents: 33,808
Firearms: 30,470 (19,392 suicides, 11,078 homicides)


There are solid statistically based predictions that state that
firearms
deaths will exceed traffic accident deaths in a couple of years.

Oh, you forgot to list the number of Americans who die of old age. :)

On a more serious note, I only took one college-level statistics
course
and have forgotten most of what I ever learned about that sort of
math,
so I asked a family member who has taken four graduate-level stats
courses about these sorts of comparisons (gun deaths vs. car deaths
vs.
cancer deaths, et cetera) and got a chuckle in response. "Such
comparisions are based on silliness and are statistically absurd. Yes,
more people die of cancer than of gunshot wounds but...so what?"

==========================

The number that surprised me was deaths by homicide involving
firearms. I read the same thing you did regarding firearm deaths
exceeding traffic deaths by 2015 however that includes suicides.
Unfortunately, although a gun is the method of choice for most
suicides, further gun restrictions won't eliminate them. As stated
in my post, the data is presented simply to put things in
perspective. 11,078 firearms related homicides is too many of course
but it's a reflection of violence in our society ... which also cannot
be totally eliminated. There are bad people in the world. But the
number is not the huge number that some of the media and proponents of
even more gun control measure would like you to believe.

My state has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation.
Permits require background checks and every purchase of a firearm at a
dealer involves a telephone check and taking of an electronic
fingerprint to verify that you are who you say you are and your permit
is valid. You must present a valid permit even for ammunition
purchases. But, our me-too governor has proposed and is pushing for
even more restrictive laws including jail time for purchasing more
than one firearm per month for existing permit holders, making
getting a permit more difficult, and putting a heavy state tax (up to
50%) on all ammunition sales (even range target practice rounds). I
don't see how that is going to affect the homicide rate by firearms in
the country.
All it is is political posturing in reaction to a horrible but
isolated event caused by a kid who was severely disturbed .... as are
all cases of mass murders.

By that twisted ****ing logic, we might as well do away with the NTSB
and all the other safety protocols, since they result in fewer deaths.
How about faulty cribs. What a load of horse****. You have a product
that's killing 1000s of people, but since it doesn't kill as many as
cancer, it's ok.

Where, Mr. U. Asshole, did he say 'it's OK'?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

You know you live in a Country run by idiots if...
....the death penalty is a 'no-no', but death by Hellfire
*without* a trial is AOK!

That was foad's comment. Are you confused or is foad really urine A.

They are one in the same...

Just like you and Salmon****.

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On 2/19/13 9:17 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:17:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/19/13 8:14 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:31:29 -0500, Meyer wrote:

That was foad's comment. Are you confused or is foad really urine A.

===

We all know that foad is Harry Krause. Chances are that urinal is
also given Harry's past record of creating peole who agree with him.



Sorry, whiner...Mr. Pee ain't me, and when I changed my handle to FOAD,
I announced it here.

It is true, isn't it, that "etc" is your altered ego?

When I change my handle to Wayne Is A Moron, I'll let everyone know.


You can use the handle I gave him... W'hine. Or, better, Lil W'hine.


--
I'm a *Liberal* because I knew the militant christian fundamentalist
racist militaristic xenophobic corporate oligarchy wasn't going to work
for me.

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On 2/19/2013 8:58 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/19/2013 6:23 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/19/13 6:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 2/19/2013 6:07 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/19/13 5:39 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 2/19/2013 5:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/19/13 5:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


Make cell phones and computer screens blank out at 10 mph.. but they
will never do that...


Yeah...what happens if you are a passenger in a car or on a train
or in
a bus?

You really don't know anything about anything.


Maybe you could go a few minutes without posting lame insults to
usenet?
But of course typical liberal, that would save millions of lives,
but it
would inconvenience you so of course you are against it. Not like you
are working all that hard to pay back the folks you stole from with
your
several bankruptcies...



And once again you demonstrate you don't know anything about anything.

Do you really think I am gonna' read any of this? LOL!


Hey, most of your posts make absolutely no sense. Why should your latest
idea of having everyone's cells shut off at 10 mph be any different.

Oh...my wife just messaged me from her iPhone. Her commuter bus, the one
on which is she a passenger and the one that travels at more than 10 mph
except when it is stuck in traffic arrived at her stop downtown 10
minutes late so she probably will be home a littler later than usual.

Under your plan, she wouldn't be able to send such a message.

You're a moron.


Not a critical message.

Exactly... harry is only concerned with his own convenience, period..
he's a typical democrat.