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Meyer[_2_] January 29th 13 10:06 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/29/2013 5:02 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.


Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


BUY AMERICAN MADE

Salmonbait[_2_] January 29th 13 10:19 PM

Which to get...
 
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:06:57 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 1/29/2013 5:02 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


BUY AMERICAN MADE


Well, to be totally hones, I *do* like this pistol a lot more than the CZ.

http://tinyurl.com/aynpk3p

Do you think I could take up a collection in rec.boats? My wife really wants me to get something for
the trailer when we're staying in a WalMart parking lot.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

ESAD January 29th 13 10:32 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/29/13 5:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote:


Do you think I could take up a collection in rec.boats? My wife really wants me to get something for
the trailer when we're staying in a WalMart parking lot.


Salmonbait

--


Try antiseptic spray.


ESAD January 29th 13 10:54 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/29/13 5:02 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.


Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!



You won't have to shoot a couple more times with a 9 mm if you aim
properly. Also a 9 mm will cycle faster. I test fired the 75BD for 50
rounds at a range south of Springfield, VA, and it convinced me to get a
custom CZ. Mine is SAO only, with an ambi safety, which I prefer to a
decocker. Field stripping a CZ for cleaning is a little different than
it is on competing pistols. The slide rides differently, too.

I use Sellier & Bellot 115 gr FMJ for target ammo. It shoots a lot
cleaner than most of the other practice ammos I've tried, especially the
Winchester "white box."

Tim January 29th 13 11:39 PM

Which to get...
 
On Jan 29, 4:54*pm, ESAD wrote:
On 1/29/13 5:02 PM, Salmonbait wrote:









On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:


On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:


No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here


are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers..


What do have against revolvers? *Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. *I really like mine!


I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.


I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?


Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?


Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.


Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.


Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.


I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh.... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..


Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...


Just my .02...


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.


Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of:http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp


Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


You won't have to shoot a couple more times with a 9 mm if you aim
properly. Also a 9 mm will cycle faster. I test fired the 75BD for 50
rounds at a range south of Springfield, VA, and it convinced me to get a
custom CZ. Mine is SAO only, with an ambi safety, which I prefer to a
decocker. Field stripping a CZ for cleaning is a little different than
it is on competing pistols. The slide rides differently, too.

I use Sellier & Bellot 115 gr FMJ for target ammo. It shoots a lot
cleaner than most of the other practice ammos I've tried, especially the
Winchester "white box."


Czech loads for a Czech pistol.

Makes sense to me...

BAR[_2_] January 29th 13 11:57 PM

Which to get...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.


Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait


If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
..22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.

Salmonbait[_2_] January 30th 13 12:53 AM

Which to get...
 
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait


If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.


The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense - in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

Salmonbait[_2_] January 30th 13 12:55 AM

Which to get...
 
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:39:02 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Jan 29, 4:54*pm, ESAD wrote:
On 1/29/13 5:02 PM, Salmonbait wrote:









On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:


On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:


No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here


are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? *Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. *I really like mine!


I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.


I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?


Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?


Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.


Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.


Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.


I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..


Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...


Just my .02...


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.


Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of:http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp


Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait


--


'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


You won't have to shoot a couple more times with a 9 mm if you aim
properly. Also a 9 mm will cycle faster. I test fired the 75BD for 50
rounds at a range south of Springfield, VA, and it convinced me to get a
custom CZ. Mine is SAO only, with an ambi safety, which I prefer to a
decocker. Field stripping a CZ for cleaning is a little different than
it is on competing pistols. The slide rides differently, too.

I use Sellier & Bellot 115 gr FMJ for target ammo. It shoots a lot
cleaner than most of the other practice ammos I've tried, especially the
Winchester "white box."


Czech loads for a Czech pistol.

Makes sense to me...


I don't mind cleaning a pistol, so I won't be investing big bucks for target practice.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

BAR[_2_] January 30th 13 12:59 PM

Which to get...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait


If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.


The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense - in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!


Remmington 870


Meyer[_2_] January 30th 13 01:25 PM

Which to get...
 
On 1/30/2013 7:59 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:57:26 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:13:19 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 1:50 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:51 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/29/2013 9:31 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:53 -0500, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 1/28/2013 4:28 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:52:42 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:11:02 AM UTC-5, Salmonbait wrote:

No, I was talking about the P226. You're right about out of stock. Most of the gun shops around here

are out of almost everything in the 9mm, 10mm, and .40 calibers.


What do have against revolvers? Take a look at the Ruger SP-101 in 357Mag. I really like mine!

I've got the S&W Model 28 in .357 mag. (
http://tinyurl.com/a5ghpt5 ). But, it's not easy to carry
if I wanted to do so.

I'm about settled on the S&W SD40VE, although the S&W M&P40 is looking pretty good too. The problem
now is finding one in stock somewhere.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Have you fired any of these weapons?

Nope. But I'd never fired a .45 or a .38 or a .357 magnum, or a .22 before the first time either.
Actually, I wonder at ESAD's comment that the 10mm will 'knock me on my ass'! Do they really kick
much worse than a .45 or .357 magnum?

Like I said, my two ex-cop brothers like the gun. That's good enough for me.

Good enough.. but remember two things. First off, harry krause has not
fired any of these weapons, so you can ignore anything he says as I am
aware you have done your own google search.

Second, if you can I would find a shop locally like our local store. For
225 dollars you get your safety course, pistol permit and five hours in
their indoor range to fire anything in the case, you buy the ammo. After
your course you can spend 5 hours firing as many weapons as you like
till you find on that feels right to you... and that is in my opinion is
as important as any other aspect of using the tool.

I go back to my first guitar. I asked my Promoter friend what to buy, he
said I can't tell you. So I got more inisitant and told him were and how
I was gonna' play, what style I wanted to play, and even noted certain
songs I wanted to play.. Again he said, I can't tell you. He continued
by saying. Look Scotty, you need to go to a shop and play a guitar, then
another... Don't even buy a guitar till you have played... say, uh... at
least 20, yeah 20 guitars. You will not play well, and probably not play
at all, if the guitar you buy doesn't feel right in your hands..

Like shoes, shocks, guitars, golf club, any tool.. The more comfortable
you are with it in your hand, the better it will work for you...

Just my .02...


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Thanks for the time and insights. I've found a local dealer that has 'loaners' of the most popular
brands. I have to pay for the range and the ammo. But, that seems pretty fair.

Have fun.. let us know if you take a few whacks at the Desert Eagle:)


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Well, now I'm having second thoughts all around. Wife's car needs new brakes and tires. Talked some
more with my brother, the one who bought the S&W SD40VE. He's about convinced me that he and I want
the guns for different reasons, and that I may be better off with something other than the S&W he
bought. He bought his purely for home/personal protection and won't be shooting it much. I want one
I can take to the range with the grandkids and shoot some targets. So I probably won't go with the
S&W. Looked at a CZ75BD Police 9mm today, along with a bunch of others. I've decided to go with 9mm,
even though it has less 'stopping power' than the .40 cal. Just have to shoot a couple more times!
This is the one I'm thinking of: http://tinyurl.com/b9sfjwp

Besides, Prague is probably my favorite city to visit in Europe!


Salmonbait

If you are looking for something to use with the "kids" I would pick a
.22 in the Ruger Mark ??? line. If all you want to do is punch holes in
targets then the .22 would be the most cost effective.


The secondary purpose of the pistol would be home/personal defense - in case some asshole starts
using my head as a basketball on the sidewalk!


Remmington 870

Isn't that a long gun?


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