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ESAD January 15th 13 01:42 AM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On 1/14/13 6:12 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/14/2013 4:25 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:17:53 -0500, ESAD wrote:

Oh, the answer is extreme poverty and a repressive right wing government
that kills its enemies, perceived and real, and critics.


Honduras, maybe but how do you explain BVI?



gurgle, gurgle.. right wing, gurgle... gurgle... spit....


Are those the noises you make for your family when you respond in
rec.boats?


Wayne.B January 15th 13 01:59 AM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:45:58 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"jps" wrote in message
.. .

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:


Ahaaahaaahaaahaaaahahahahaha!!

Relying on statistics from the UN? Really? You a big fan of the UN?

_______________________________________-

I found this video to be interesting and frankly surprising. The guy
is obviously a gun ownership advocate, but he doesn't come across as a
ultra right wing nutcase. He makes solid points about how the media
and some politicians play on emotions resulting from tragic events,
but then puts them in overall perspective. I think the points he
makes towards the end of the video makes more sense than anything
coming out of DC or many of the reactionary media commentaries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooa98FHuaU0


====

He makes a lot of sense and confirms what many of us already
suspected. Since his views do not support the emotional anti gun
agenda however, he will not get much notice in mainstream media.

Anyone highlighting the inner city crime problem that we have will
usually be accused of racism shortly thereafter.


thumper January 15th 13 06:18 AM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On 1/14/2013 10:07 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*


[trimmed]

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html


Your reference shows the US at 4.8 in 2010 (higher in previous years)
but why stop there? Seems there is plenty of room for improvement.

Martinique 4.2
Albania 4.0
Chile 3.7
Solomon Is. 3.7
Sri Lanka 3.6
India 3.5
Montenegro 3.5
Argentina 3.4
Cambodia 3.4
Turkey 3.3
Taiwan 3.2
Uzbekistan 3.1
Latvia 3.1
Iran 3.0
Fiji 2.8
Liechtenstein 2.8
Nepal 2.8
Bangladesh 2.7
Afghanistan 2.4 ? source: WHO
Korea 2.6
Luxembourg 2.5
Malaysia 2.3
Syria 2.3 ?
Azerbaijan 2.2
Kuwait 2.2
Lebanon 2.2
Finland 2.2
Tajikistan 2.1
Israel 2.1
Iraq 2.0 ?
Bulgaria 2.0
Romania 2.0
Macedonia 1.9
Jordan 1.8
Belgium 1.7
Cyprus 1.7
Czech Rep. 1.7
Canada 1.6
Viet Nam 1.6
Maldives 1.6
Slovakia 1.5
Bosnia/Herz. 1.5
Greece 1.5
Armenia 1.4
Croatia 1.4
Hungary 1.3
Andorra 1.3
Ireland 1.2
Portugal 1.2
Serbia 1.2
UK 1.2
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Poland 1.1
Samoa 1.1
Australia 1.0
China 1.0
Bhutan 1.0
Malta 1.0
Saudi Arabia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Tonga 1.0
Italy 0.9
Qatar 0.9
Denmark 0.9
Micronesia 0.9
New Zealand 0.9
Vanuatu 0.9
Spain 0.8
Germany 0.8
U.A.E. 0.8
Macao 0.7
Oman 0.7
Slovenia 0.7
Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6
Bahrain 0.6
Guam 0.6
Norway 0.6
Brunei 0.5
Japan 0.4
French Polynesia 0.4
Singapore 0.3
Iceland 0.3
Hong Kong 0.2
Monaco 0.0
Palau 0.0

Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?


jps January 15th 13 09:33 AM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:47:25 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:12:30 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:


Ahaaahaaahaaahaaaahahahahaha!!

Relying on statistics from the UN? Really? You a big fan of the UN?


Did you find fault with the data - compiled by the World Health Organization?

"Public health data on homicides were mainly derived from databases on deaths by cause disseminated
by the World Health Organization (WHO)."

Maybe you should stick to projecting about your maternal relationships.

Salmonbait


Skirted the question, didn't you?

That's like me quoting Sean Hannity to make a political point.

If you're a modern Republican, you hate the UN.

jps January 15th 13 09:36 AM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:19 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/14/2013 10:07 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*


[trimmed]

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html


Your reference shows the US at 4.8 in 2010 (higher in previous years)
but why stop there? Seems there is plenty of room for improvement.

Martinique 4.2
Albania 4.0
Chile 3.7
Solomon Is. 3.7
Sri Lanka 3.6
India 3.5
Montenegro 3.5
Argentina 3.4
Cambodia 3.4
Turkey 3.3
Taiwan 3.2
Uzbekistan 3.1
Latvia 3.1
Iran 3.0
Fiji 2.8
Liechtenstein 2.8
Nepal 2.8
Bangladesh 2.7
Afghanistan 2.4 ? source: WHO
Korea 2.6
Luxembourg 2.5
Malaysia 2.3
Syria 2.3 ?
Azerbaijan 2.2
Kuwait 2.2
Lebanon 2.2
Finland 2.2
Tajikistan 2.1
Israel 2.1
Iraq 2.0 ?
Bulgaria 2.0
Romania 2.0
Macedonia 1.9
Jordan 1.8
Belgium 1.7
Cyprus 1.7
Czech Rep. 1.7
Canada 1.6
Viet Nam 1.6
Maldives 1.6
Slovakia 1.5
Bosnia/Herz. 1.5
Greece 1.5
Armenia 1.4
Croatia 1.4
Hungary 1.3
Andorra 1.3
Ireland 1.2
Portugal 1.2
Serbia 1.2
UK 1.2
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Poland 1.1
Samoa 1.1
Australia 1.0
China 1.0
Bhutan 1.0
Malta 1.0
Saudi Arabia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Tonga 1.0
Italy 0.9
Qatar 0.9
Denmark 0.9
Micronesia 0.9
New Zealand 0.9
Vanuatu 0.9
Spain 0.8
Germany 0.8
U.A.E. 0.8
Macao 0.7
Oman 0.7
Slovenia 0.7
Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6
Bahrain 0.6
Guam 0.6
Norway 0.6
Brunei 0.5
Japan 0.4
French Polynesia 0.4
Singapore 0.3
Iceland 0.3
Hong Kong 0.2
Monaco 0.0
Palau 0.0

Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?



Good point, Thumper.

Herring thinks "We're not as bad as them" is an excuse for not doing
what's right?

JustWait[_2_] January 15th 13 10:22 AM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On 1/15/2013 4:36 AM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:19 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/14/2013 10:07 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*


[trimmed]

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html


Your reference shows the US at 4.8 in 2010 (higher in previous years)
but why stop there? Seems there is plenty of room for improvement.

Martinique 4.2
Albania 4.0
Chile 3.7
Solomon Is. 3.7
Sri Lanka 3.6
India 3.5
Montenegro 3.5
Argentina 3.4
Cambodia 3.4
Turkey 3.3
Taiwan 3.2
Uzbekistan 3.1
Latvia 3.1
Iran 3.0
Fiji 2.8
Liechtenstein 2.8
Nepal 2.8
Bangladesh 2.7
Afghanistan 2.4 ? source: WHO
Korea 2.6
Luxembourg 2.5
Malaysia 2.3
Syria 2.3 ?
Azerbaijan 2.2
Kuwait 2.2
Lebanon 2.2
Finland 2.2
Tajikistan 2.1
Israel 2.1
Iraq 2.0 ?
Bulgaria 2.0
Romania 2.0
Macedonia 1.9
Jordan 1.8
Belgium 1.7
Cyprus 1.7
Czech Rep. 1.7
Canada 1.6
Viet Nam 1.6
Maldives 1.6
Slovakia 1.5
Bosnia/Herz. 1.5
Greece 1.5
Armenia 1.4
Croatia 1.4
Hungary 1.3
Andorra 1.3
Ireland 1.2
Portugal 1.2
Serbia 1.2
UK 1.2
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Poland 1.1
Samoa 1.1
Australia 1.0
China 1.0
Bhutan 1.0
Malta 1.0
Saudi Arabia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Tonga 1.0
Italy 0.9
Qatar 0.9
Denmark 0.9
Micronesia 0.9
New Zealand 0.9
Vanuatu 0.9
Spain 0.8
Germany 0.8
U.A.E. 0.8
Macao 0.7
Oman 0.7
Slovenia 0.7
Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6
Bahrain 0.6
Guam 0.6
Norway 0.6
Brunei 0.5
Japan 0.4
French Polynesia 0.4
Singapore 0.3
Iceland 0.3
Hong Kong 0.2
Monaco 0.0
Palau 0.0

Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?



Good point, Thumper.

Herring thinks "We're not as bad as them" is an excuse for not doing
what's right?


Nope, nobody ever said that... but you guys do keep on won't you?

Meyer[_2_] January 15th 13 12:43 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On 1/15/2013 4:36 AM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:19 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/14/2013 10:07 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*


[trimmed]

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html


Your reference shows the US at 4.8 in 2010 (higher in previous years)
but why stop there? Seems there is plenty of room for improvement.

Martinique 4.2
Albania 4.0
Chile 3.7
Solomon Is. 3.7
Sri Lanka 3.6
India 3.5
Montenegro 3.5
Argentina 3.4
Cambodia 3.4
Turkey 3.3
Taiwan 3.2
Uzbekistan 3.1
Latvia 3.1
Iran 3.0
Fiji 2.8
Liechtenstein 2.8
Nepal 2.8
Bangladesh 2.7
Afghanistan 2.4 ? source: WHO
Korea 2.6
Luxembourg 2.5
Malaysia 2.3
Syria 2.3 ?
Azerbaijan 2.2
Kuwait 2.2
Lebanon 2.2
Finland 2.2
Tajikistan 2.1
Israel 2.1
Iraq 2.0 ?
Bulgaria 2.0
Romania 2.0
Macedonia 1.9
Jordan 1.8
Belgium 1.7
Cyprus 1.7
Czech Rep. 1.7
Canada 1.6
Viet Nam 1.6
Maldives 1.6
Slovakia 1.5
Bosnia/Herz. 1.5
Greece 1.5
Armenia 1.4
Croatia 1.4
Hungary 1.3
Andorra 1.3
Ireland 1.2
Portugal 1.2
Serbia 1.2
UK 1.2
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Poland 1.1
Samoa 1.1
Australia 1.0
China 1.0
Bhutan 1.0
Malta 1.0
Saudi Arabia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Tonga 1.0
Italy 0.9
Qatar 0.9
Denmark 0.9
Micronesia 0.9
New Zealand 0.9
Vanuatu 0.9
Spain 0.8
Germany 0.8
U.A.E. 0.8
Macao 0.7
Oman 0.7
Slovenia 0.7
Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6
Bahrain 0.6
Guam 0.6
Norway 0.6
Brunei 0.5
Japan 0.4
French Polynesia 0.4
Singapore 0.3
Iceland 0.3
Hong Kong 0.2
Monaco 0.0
Palau 0.0

Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?



Good point, Thumper.

Herring thinks "We're not as bad as them" is an excuse for not doing
what's right?


What's right, in your opinion.

BAR[_2_] January 15th 13 01:04 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*

Honduras 91.6

El Salvador 69.2

Cote d'lvoire 56.9

Jamaica 52.2

Venezuela 45.1

Belize 41.4

US Virgin Islands 39.2

Guatemala 38.5

Saint Kits and Nevis 38.2

Zambia 38.0

Uganda 36.3

Malawi 36.0

Lesotho 35.2

Trinidad and Tobago 35.2

Colombia 33.4

South Africa 31.8

Congo 30.8

Central African Republic 29.3

Bahamas 27.4

Puerto Rico 26.2

Saint Lucia 25.2

Dominican Republic 25.0

Tanzania 24.5

Sudan 24.2

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9

Ethiopia 22.5

Guinea 22.5

Dominica 22.1

Burundi 21.7

Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7

Panama 21.6

Brazil 21.0

Equatorial Guinea 20.7

Guinea-Bissau 20.2

Kenya 20.1

Kyrgyzstan 20.1

Cameroon 19.7

Montserrat 19.7

Greenland 19.2

Angola 19.0

Guyana 18.6

Burkina Faso 18.0

Eritrea 17.8

Namibia 17.2

Rwanda 17.1

Mexico 16.9

Chad 15.8

Ghana 15.7

Ecuador 15.2

North Korea 15.2

Benin 15.1

Sierra Leone 14.9

Mauritania 14.7

Botswana 14.5

Zimbabwe 14.3

Gabon 13.8

Nicaragua 13.6

French Guiana 13.3

Papua New Guinea 13.0

Swaziland 12.9

Bermuda 12.3

Comoros 12.2

Nigeria 12.2

Cape Verde 11.6

Grenada 11.5

Paraguay 11.5

Barbados 11.3

Togo 10.9

Gambia 10.8

Peru 10.8

Myanmar 10.2

Russia 10.2

Liberia 10.1

Costa Rica 10.0

Nauru 9.8

Bolivia 8.9

Mozambique 8.8

Kazakhstan 8.8

Senegal 8.7

Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7

Mongolia 8.7

British Virgin Islands 8.6

Cayman Islands 8.4

Seychelles 8.3

Madagascar 8.1

Indonesia 8.1

Mali 8.0

Pakistan 7.8

Moldova 7.5

Kiribati 7.3

Guadeloupe 7.0

Haiti 6.9

Timor-Leste 6.9

Anguilla 6.8

Antigua and Barbuda 6.8

Lithuania 6.6

Uruguay 5.9

Philippines 5.4

Ukraine 5.2

Estonia 5.2

Cuba 5.0

Belarus 4.9

Thailand 4.8

Suriname 4.6

Laos 4.6

Georgia 4.3

Martinique 4.2

And

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html

Salmonbait


===

Shocking statistics for Honduras at over 20 times the US rate. I
wonder what that's all about?


It has to be the gun culture in Honduras.



BAR[_2_] January 15th 13 01:13 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
In article ,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:


Ahaaahaaahaaahaaaahahahahaha!!

Relying on statistics from the UN? Really? You a big fan of the UN?

_______________________________________-

I found this video to be interesting and frankly surprising. The guy
is obviously a gun ownership advocate, but he doesn't come across as a
ultra right wing nutcase. He makes solid points about how the media
and some politicians play on emotions resulting from tragic events,
but then puts them in overall perspective. I think the points he
makes towards the end of the video makes more sense than anything
coming out of DC or many of the reactionary media commentaries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooa98FHuaU0

Very interesting.



Salmonbait[_2_] January 15th 13 01:53 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:19 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/14/2013 10:07 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*


[trimmed]

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html


Your reference shows the US at 4.8 in 2010 (higher in previous years)
but why stop there? Seems there is plenty of room for improvement.

Martinique 4.2
Albania 4.0
Chile 3.7
Solomon Is. 3.7
Sri Lanka 3.6
India 3.5
Montenegro 3.5
Argentina 3.4
Cambodia 3.4
Turkey 3.3
Taiwan 3.2
Uzbekistan 3.1
Latvia 3.1
Iran 3.0
Fiji 2.8
Liechtenstein 2.8
Nepal 2.8
Bangladesh 2.7
Afghanistan 2.4 ? source: WHO
Korea 2.6
Luxembourg 2.5
Malaysia 2.3
Syria 2.3 ?
Azerbaijan 2.2
Kuwait 2.2
Lebanon 2.2
Finland 2.2
Tajikistan 2.1
Israel 2.1
Iraq 2.0 ?
Bulgaria 2.0
Romania 2.0
Macedonia 1.9
Jordan 1.8
Belgium 1.7
Cyprus 1.7
Czech Rep. 1.7
Canada 1.6
Viet Nam 1.6
Maldives 1.6
Slovakia 1.5
Bosnia/Herz. 1.5
Greece 1.5
Armenia 1.4
Croatia 1.4
Hungary 1.3
Andorra 1.3
Ireland 1.2
Portugal 1.2
Serbia 1.2
UK 1.2
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Poland 1.1
Samoa 1.1
Australia 1.0
China 1.0
Bhutan 1.0
Malta 1.0
Saudi Arabia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Tonga 1.0
Italy 0.9
Qatar 0.9
Denmark 0.9
Micronesia 0.9
New Zealand 0.9
Vanuatu 0.9
Spain 0.8
Germany 0.8
U.A.E. 0.8
Macao 0.7
Oman 0.7
Slovenia 0.7
Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6
Bahrain 0.6
Guam 0.6
Norway 0.6
Brunei 0.5
Japan 0.4
French Polynesia 0.4
Singapore 0.3
Iceland 0.3
Hong Kong 0.2
Monaco 0.0
Palau 0.0

Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?


There's always room for improvement.

So what? I sure don't recall saying this country was perfect. I'm just not in favor of making it out
to be the ****tiest country in the world like ESAD, Donnie, jps, et al. I suppose you should be in
the list also, given the wagon you ride.


Salmonbait

--

**Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government
take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.**


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