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Salmonbait[_2_] January 14th 13 06:07 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
....as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*

Honduras 91.6

El Salvador 69.2

Cote d'lvoire 56.9

Jamaica 52.2

Venezuela 45.1

Belize 41.4

US Virgin Islands 39.2

Guatemala 38.5

Saint Kits and Nevis 38.2

Zambia 38.0

Uganda 36.3

Malawi 36.0

Lesotho 35.2

Trinidad and Tobago 35.2

Colombia 33.4

South Africa 31.8

Congo 30.8

Central African Republic 29.3

Bahamas 27.4

Puerto Rico 26.2

Saint Lucia 25.2

Dominican Republic 25.0

Tanzania 24.5

Sudan 24.2

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9

Ethiopia 22.5

Guinea 22.5

Dominica 22.1

Burundi 21.7

Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7

Panama 21.6

Brazil 21.0

Equatorial Guinea 20.7

Guinea-Bissau 20.2

Kenya 20.1

Kyrgyzstan 20.1

Cameroon 19.7

Montserrat 19.7

Greenland 19.2

Angola 19.0

Guyana 18.6

Burkina Faso 18.0

Eritrea 17.8

Namibia 17.2

Rwanda 17.1

Mexico 16.9

Chad 15.8

Ghana 15.7

Ecuador 15.2

North Korea 15.2

Benin 15.1

Sierra Leone 14.9

Mauritania 14.7

Botswana 14.5

Zimbabwe 14.3

Gabon 13.8

Nicaragua 13.6

French Guiana 13.3

Papua New Guinea 13.0

Swaziland 12.9

Bermuda 12.3

Comoros 12.2

Nigeria 12.2

Cape Verde 11.6

Grenada 11.5

Paraguay 11.5

Barbados 11.3

Togo 10.9

Gambia 10.8

Peru 10.8

Myanmar 10.2

Russia 10.2

Liberia 10.1

Costa Rica 10.0

Nauru 9.8

Bolivia 8.9

Mozambique 8.8

Kazakhstan 8.8

Senegal 8.7

Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7

Mongolia 8.7

British Virgin Islands 8.6

Cayman Islands 8.4

Seychelles 8.3

Madagascar 8.1

Indonesia 8.1

Mali 8.0

Pakistan 7.8

Moldova 7.5

Kiribati 7.3

Guadeloupe 7.0

Haiti 6.9

Timor-Leste 6.9

Anguilla 6.8

Antigua and Barbuda 6.8

Lithuania 6.6

Uruguay 5.9

Philippines 5.4

Ukraine 5.2

Estonia 5.2

Cuba 5.0

Belarus 4.9

Thailand 4.8

Suriname 4.6

Laos 4.6

Georgia 4.3

Martinique 4.2

And

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html

Salmonbait

--

**Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government
take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.**

Wayne.B January 14th 13 06:56 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*

Honduras 91.6

El Salvador 69.2

Cote d'lvoire 56.9

Jamaica 52.2

Venezuela 45.1

Belize 41.4

US Virgin Islands 39.2

Guatemala 38.5

Saint Kits and Nevis 38.2

Zambia 38.0

Uganda 36.3

Malawi 36.0

Lesotho 35.2

Trinidad and Tobago 35.2

Colombia 33.4

South Africa 31.8

Congo 30.8

Central African Republic 29.3

Bahamas 27.4

Puerto Rico 26.2

Saint Lucia 25.2

Dominican Republic 25.0

Tanzania 24.5

Sudan 24.2

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9

Ethiopia 22.5

Guinea 22.5

Dominica 22.1

Burundi 21.7

Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7

Panama 21.6

Brazil 21.0

Equatorial Guinea 20.7

Guinea-Bissau 20.2

Kenya 20.1

Kyrgyzstan 20.1

Cameroon 19.7

Montserrat 19.7

Greenland 19.2

Angola 19.0

Guyana 18.6

Burkina Faso 18.0

Eritrea 17.8

Namibia 17.2

Rwanda 17.1

Mexico 16.9

Chad 15.8

Ghana 15.7

Ecuador 15.2

North Korea 15.2

Benin 15.1

Sierra Leone 14.9

Mauritania 14.7

Botswana 14.5

Zimbabwe 14.3

Gabon 13.8

Nicaragua 13.6

French Guiana 13.3

Papua New Guinea 13.0

Swaziland 12.9

Bermuda 12.3

Comoros 12.2

Nigeria 12.2

Cape Verde 11.6

Grenada 11.5

Paraguay 11.5

Barbados 11.3

Togo 10.9

Gambia 10.8

Peru 10.8

Myanmar 10.2

Russia 10.2

Liberia 10.1

Costa Rica 10.0

Nauru 9.8

Bolivia 8.9

Mozambique 8.8

Kazakhstan 8.8

Senegal 8.7

Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7

Mongolia 8.7

British Virgin Islands 8.6

Cayman Islands 8.4

Seychelles 8.3

Madagascar 8.1

Indonesia 8.1

Mali 8.0

Pakistan 7.8

Moldova 7.5

Kiribati 7.3

Guadeloupe 7.0

Haiti 6.9

Timor-Leste 6.9

Anguilla 6.8

Antigua and Barbuda 6.8

Lithuania 6.6

Uruguay 5.9

Philippines 5.4

Ukraine 5.2

Estonia 5.2

Cuba 5.0

Belarus 4.9

Thailand 4.8

Suriname 4.6

Laos 4.6

Georgia 4.3

Martinique 4.2

And

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html

Salmonbait


===

Shocking statistics for Honduras at over 20 times the US rate. I
wonder what that's all about?


True North[_2_] January 14th 13 07:01 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Monday, January 14, 2013 2:56:45 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait

wrote:



...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:




Does this info ever get to the liberals?




*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*




*Murders per 100,000 citizens*




Honduras 91.6




El Salvador 69.2




Cote d'lvoire 56.9




Jamaica 52.2




Venezuela 45.1




Belize 41.4




US Virgin Islands 39.2




Guatemala 38.5




Saint Kits and Nevis 38.2




Zambia 38.0




Uganda 36.3




Malawi 36.0




Lesotho 35.2




Trinidad and Tobago 35.2




Colombia 33.4




South Africa 31.8




Congo 30.8




Central African Republic 29.3




Bahamas 27.4




Puerto Rico 26.2




Saint Lucia 25.2




Dominican Republic 25.0




Tanzania 24.5




Sudan 24.2




Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9




Ethiopia 22.5




Guinea 22.5




Dominica 22.1




Burundi 21.7




Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7




Panama 21.6




Brazil 21.0




Equatorial Guinea 20.7




Guinea-Bissau 20.2




Kenya 20.1




Kyrgyzstan 20.1




Cameroon 19.7




Montserrat 19.7




Greenland 19.2




Angola 19.0




Guyana 18.6




Burkina Faso 18.0




Eritrea 17.8




Namibia 17.2




Rwanda 17.1




Mexico 16.9




Chad 15.8




Ghana 15.7




Ecuador 15.2




North Korea 15.2




Benin 15.1




Sierra Leone 14.9




Mauritania 14.7




Botswana 14.5




Zimbabwe 14.3




Gabon 13.8




Nicaragua 13.6




French Guiana 13.3




Papua New Guinea 13.0




Swaziland 12.9




Bermuda 12.3




Comoros 12.2




Nigeria 12.2




Cape Verde 11.6




Grenada 11.5




Paraguay 11.5




Barbados 11.3




Togo 10.9




Gambia 10.8




Peru 10.8




Myanmar 10.2




Russia 10.2




Liberia 10.1




Costa Rica 10.0




Nauru 9.8




Bolivia 8.9




Mozambique 8.8




Kazakhstan 8.8




Senegal 8.7




Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7




Mongolia 8.7




British Virgin Islands 8.6




Cayman Islands 8.4




Seychelles 8.3




Madagascar 8.1




Indonesia 8.1




Mali 8.0




Pakistan 7.8




Moldova 7.5




Kiribati 7.3




Guadeloupe 7.0




Haiti 6.9




Timor-Leste 6.9




Anguilla 6.8




Antigua and Barbuda 6.8




Lithuania 6.6




Uruguay 5.9




Philippines 5.4




Ukraine 5.2




Estonia 5.2




Cuba 5.0




Belarus 4.9




Thailand 4.8




Suriname 4.6




Laos 4.6




Georgia 4.3




Martinique 4.2




And




*United States 4.2*






http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html




Salmonbait




===



Shocking statistics for Honduras at over 20 times the US rate. I

wonder what that's all about?



Also the British Virgin Islands at double the US rate.....hard to believe.

jps January 14th 13 07:12 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:


Ahaaahaaahaaahaaaahahahahaha!!

Relying on statistics from the UN? Really? You a big fan of the UN?

ESAD January 14th 13 07:17 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On 1/14/13 1:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:

Honduras 91.6



===

Shocking statistics for Honduras at over 20 times the US rate. I
wonder what that's all about?


Why not cruise down there and check it out for us?

Oh, the answer is extreme poverty and a repressive right wing government
that kills its enemies, perceived and real, and critics.

iBoaterer[_2_] January 14th 13 07:55 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
In article ,
says...

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*

Honduras 91.6

El Salvador 69.2

Cote d'lvoire 56.9

Jamaica 52.2

Venezuela 45.1

Belize 41.4

US Virgin Islands 39.2

Guatemala 38.5

Saint Kits and Nevis 38.2

Zambia 38.0

Uganda 36.3

Malawi 36.0

Lesotho 35.2

Trinidad and Tobago 35.2

Colombia 33.4

South Africa 31.8

Congo 30.8

Central African Republic 29.3

Bahamas 27.4

Puerto Rico 26.2

Saint Lucia 25.2

Dominican Republic 25.0

Tanzania 24.5

Sudan 24.2

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9

Ethiopia 22.5

Guinea 22.5

Dominica 22.1

Burundi 21.7

Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7

Panama 21.6

Brazil 21.0

Equatorial Guinea 20.7

Guinea-Bissau 20.2

Kenya 20.1

Kyrgyzstan 20.1

Cameroon 19.7

Montserrat 19.7

Greenland 19.2

Angola 19.0

Guyana 18.6

Burkina Faso 18.0

Eritrea 17.8

Namibia 17.2

Rwanda 17.1

Mexico 16.9

Chad 15.8

Ghana 15.7

Ecuador 15.2

North Korea 15.2

Benin 15.1

Sierra Leone 14.9

Mauritania 14.7

Botswana 14.5

Zimbabwe 14.3

Gabon 13.8

Nicaragua 13.6

French Guiana 13.3

Papua New Guinea 13.0

Swaziland 12.9

Bermuda 12.3

Comoros 12.2

Nigeria 12.2

Cape Verde 11.6

Grenada 11.5

Paraguay 11.5

Barbados 11.3

Togo 10.9

Gambia 10.8

Peru 10.8

Myanmar 10.2

Russia 10.2

Liberia 10.1

Costa Rica 10.0

Nauru 9.8

Bolivia 8.9

Mozambique 8.8

Kazakhstan 8.8

Senegal 8.7

Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7

Mongolia 8.7

British Virgin Islands 8.6

Cayman Islands 8.4

Seychelles 8.3

Madagascar 8.1

Indonesia 8.1

Mali 8.0

Pakistan 7.8

Moldova 7.5

Kiribati 7.3

Guadeloupe 7.0

Haiti 6.9

Timor-Leste 6.9

Anguilla 6.8

Antigua and Barbuda 6.8

Lithuania 6.6

Uruguay 5.9

Philippines 5.4

Ukraine 5.2

Estonia 5.2

Cuba 5.0

Belarus 4.9

Thailand 4.8

Suriname 4.6

Laos 4.6

Georgia 4.3

Martinique 4.2

And

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html

Salmonbait


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...es_by_firearm-
related_death_rate



ESAD January 14th 13 09:34 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On 1/14/13 4:25 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:17:53 -0500, ESAD wrote:

Oh, the answer is extreme poverty and a repressive right wing government
that kills its enemies, perceived and real, and critics.


Honduras, maybe but how do you explain BVI?




Very small population, very small number of murders...a statistical
anomaly. I think there were two murders in the last year of entry on
that chart.

If you want to make comparisons with the murder rate and gun homicide
rate in the United States, the comparisons should be with similar kinds
of countries and societies, not with Honduras or El Salvador, which are
far more violent countries and societies than the United States, Great
Britain, Canada, Germany, Japan, et cetera.

Eisboch[_8_] January 14th 13 10:45 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 


"jps" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:


Ahaaahaaahaaahaaaahahahahaha!!

Relying on statistics from the UN? Really? You a big fan of the UN?

_______________________________________-

I found this video to be interesting and frankly surprising. The guy
is obviously a gun ownership advocate, but he doesn't come across as a
ultra right wing nutcase. He makes solid points about how the media
and some politicians play on emotions resulting from tragic events,
but then puts them in overall perspective. I think the points he
makes towards the end of the video makes more sense than anything
coming out of DC or many of the reactionary media commentaries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooa98FHuaU0



Salmonbait[_2_] January 14th 13 10:47 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:12:30 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:


Ahaaahaaahaaahaaaahahahahaha!!

Relying on statistics from the UN? Really? You a big fan of the UN?


Did you find fault with the data - compiled by the World Health Organization?

"Public health data on homicides were mainly derived from databases on deaths by cause disseminated
by the World Health Organization (WHO)."

Maybe you should stick to projecting about your maternal relationships.

Salmonbait

--

**Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government
take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.**

JustWait[_2_] January 14th 13 11:12 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On 1/14/2013 4:25 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:17:53 -0500, ESAD wrote:

Oh, the answer is extreme poverty and a repressive right wing government
that kills its enemies, perceived and real, and critics.


Honduras, maybe but how do you explain BVI?



gurgle, gurgle.. right wing, gurgle... gurgle... spit.... Harry is a
on trick pony...

ESAD January 15th 13 01:42 AM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On 1/14/13 6:12 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/14/2013 4:25 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:17:53 -0500, ESAD wrote:

Oh, the answer is extreme poverty and a repressive right wing government
that kills its enemies, perceived and real, and critics.


Honduras, maybe but how do you explain BVI?



gurgle, gurgle.. right wing, gurgle... gurgle... spit....


Are those the noises you make for your family when you respond in
rec.boats?


Wayne.B January 15th 13 01:59 AM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:45:58 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"jps" wrote in message
.. .

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:


Ahaaahaaahaaahaaaahahahahaha!!

Relying on statistics from the UN? Really? You a big fan of the UN?

_______________________________________-

I found this video to be interesting and frankly surprising. The guy
is obviously a gun ownership advocate, but he doesn't come across as a
ultra right wing nutcase. He makes solid points about how the media
and some politicians play on emotions resulting from tragic events,
but then puts them in overall perspective. I think the points he
makes towards the end of the video makes more sense than anything
coming out of DC or many of the reactionary media commentaries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooa98FHuaU0


====

He makes a lot of sense and confirms what many of us already
suspected. Since his views do not support the emotional anti gun
agenda however, he will not get much notice in mainstream media.

Anyone highlighting the inner city crime problem that we have will
usually be accused of racism shortly thereafter.


thumper January 15th 13 06:18 AM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On 1/14/2013 10:07 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*


[trimmed]

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html


Your reference shows the US at 4.8 in 2010 (higher in previous years)
but why stop there? Seems there is plenty of room for improvement.

Martinique 4.2
Albania 4.0
Chile 3.7
Solomon Is. 3.7
Sri Lanka 3.6
India 3.5
Montenegro 3.5
Argentina 3.4
Cambodia 3.4
Turkey 3.3
Taiwan 3.2
Uzbekistan 3.1
Latvia 3.1
Iran 3.0
Fiji 2.8
Liechtenstein 2.8
Nepal 2.8
Bangladesh 2.7
Afghanistan 2.4 ? source: WHO
Korea 2.6
Luxembourg 2.5
Malaysia 2.3
Syria 2.3 ?
Azerbaijan 2.2
Kuwait 2.2
Lebanon 2.2
Finland 2.2
Tajikistan 2.1
Israel 2.1
Iraq 2.0 ?
Bulgaria 2.0
Romania 2.0
Macedonia 1.9
Jordan 1.8
Belgium 1.7
Cyprus 1.7
Czech Rep. 1.7
Canada 1.6
Viet Nam 1.6
Maldives 1.6
Slovakia 1.5
Bosnia/Herz. 1.5
Greece 1.5
Armenia 1.4
Croatia 1.4
Hungary 1.3
Andorra 1.3
Ireland 1.2
Portugal 1.2
Serbia 1.2
UK 1.2
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Poland 1.1
Samoa 1.1
Australia 1.0
China 1.0
Bhutan 1.0
Malta 1.0
Saudi Arabia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Tonga 1.0
Italy 0.9
Qatar 0.9
Denmark 0.9
Micronesia 0.9
New Zealand 0.9
Vanuatu 0.9
Spain 0.8
Germany 0.8
U.A.E. 0.8
Macao 0.7
Oman 0.7
Slovenia 0.7
Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6
Bahrain 0.6
Guam 0.6
Norway 0.6
Brunei 0.5
Japan 0.4
French Polynesia 0.4
Singapore 0.3
Iceland 0.3
Hong Kong 0.2
Monaco 0.0
Palau 0.0

Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?


jps January 15th 13 09:33 AM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:47:25 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:12:30 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:


Ahaaahaaahaaahaaaahahahahaha!!

Relying on statistics from the UN? Really? You a big fan of the UN?


Did you find fault with the data - compiled by the World Health Organization?

"Public health data on homicides were mainly derived from databases on deaths by cause disseminated
by the World Health Organization (WHO)."

Maybe you should stick to projecting about your maternal relationships.

Salmonbait


Skirted the question, didn't you?

That's like me quoting Sean Hannity to make a political point.

If you're a modern Republican, you hate the UN.

jps January 15th 13 09:36 AM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:19 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/14/2013 10:07 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*


[trimmed]

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html


Your reference shows the US at 4.8 in 2010 (higher in previous years)
but why stop there? Seems there is plenty of room for improvement.

Martinique 4.2
Albania 4.0
Chile 3.7
Solomon Is. 3.7
Sri Lanka 3.6
India 3.5
Montenegro 3.5
Argentina 3.4
Cambodia 3.4
Turkey 3.3
Taiwan 3.2
Uzbekistan 3.1
Latvia 3.1
Iran 3.0
Fiji 2.8
Liechtenstein 2.8
Nepal 2.8
Bangladesh 2.7
Afghanistan 2.4 ? source: WHO
Korea 2.6
Luxembourg 2.5
Malaysia 2.3
Syria 2.3 ?
Azerbaijan 2.2
Kuwait 2.2
Lebanon 2.2
Finland 2.2
Tajikistan 2.1
Israel 2.1
Iraq 2.0 ?
Bulgaria 2.0
Romania 2.0
Macedonia 1.9
Jordan 1.8
Belgium 1.7
Cyprus 1.7
Czech Rep. 1.7
Canada 1.6
Viet Nam 1.6
Maldives 1.6
Slovakia 1.5
Bosnia/Herz. 1.5
Greece 1.5
Armenia 1.4
Croatia 1.4
Hungary 1.3
Andorra 1.3
Ireland 1.2
Portugal 1.2
Serbia 1.2
UK 1.2
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Poland 1.1
Samoa 1.1
Australia 1.0
China 1.0
Bhutan 1.0
Malta 1.0
Saudi Arabia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Tonga 1.0
Italy 0.9
Qatar 0.9
Denmark 0.9
Micronesia 0.9
New Zealand 0.9
Vanuatu 0.9
Spain 0.8
Germany 0.8
U.A.E. 0.8
Macao 0.7
Oman 0.7
Slovenia 0.7
Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6
Bahrain 0.6
Guam 0.6
Norway 0.6
Brunei 0.5
Japan 0.4
French Polynesia 0.4
Singapore 0.3
Iceland 0.3
Hong Kong 0.2
Monaco 0.0
Palau 0.0

Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?



Good point, Thumper.

Herring thinks "We're not as bad as them" is an excuse for not doing
what's right?

JustWait[_2_] January 15th 13 10:22 AM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On 1/15/2013 4:36 AM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:19 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/14/2013 10:07 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*


[trimmed]

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html


Your reference shows the US at 4.8 in 2010 (higher in previous years)
but why stop there? Seems there is plenty of room for improvement.

Martinique 4.2
Albania 4.0
Chile 3.7
Solomon Is. 3.7
Sri Lanka 3.6
India 3.5
Montenegro 3.5
Argentina 3.4
Cambodia 3.4
Turkey 3.3
Taiwan 3.2
Uzbekistan 3.1
Latvia 3.1
Iran 3.0
Fiji 2.8
Liechtenstein 2.8
Nepal 2.8
Bangladesh 2.7
Afghanistan 2.4 ? source: WHO
Korea 2.6
Luxembourg 2.5
Malaysia 2.3
Syria 2.3 ?
Azerbaijan 2.2
Kuwait 2.2
Lebanon 2.2
Finland 2.2
Tajikistan 2.1
Israel 2.1
Iraq 2.0 ?
Bulgaria 2.0
Romania 2.0
Macedonia 1.9
Jordan 1.8
Belgium 1.7
Cyprus 1.7
Czech Rep. 1.7
Canada 1.6
Viet Nam 1.6
Maldives 1.6
Slovakia 1.5
Bosnia/Herz. 1.5
Greece 1.5
Armenia 1.4
Croatia 1.4
Hungary 1.3
Andorra 1.3
Ireland 1.2
Portugal 1.2
Serbia 1.2
UK 1.2
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Poland 1.1
Samoa 1.1
Australia 1.0
China 1.0
Bhutan 1.0
Malta 1.0
Saudi Arabia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Tonga 1.0
Italy 0.9
Qatar 0.9
Denmark 0.9
Micronesia 0.9
New Zealand 0.9
Vanuatu 0.9
Spain 0.8
Germany 0.8
U.A.E. 0.8
Macao 0.7
Oman 0.7
Slovenia 0.7
Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6
Bahrain 0.6
Guam 0.6
Norway 0.6
Brunei 0.5
Japan 0.4
French Polynesia 0.4
Singapore 0.3
Iceland 0.3
Hong Kong 0.2
Monaco 0.0
Palau 0.0

Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?



Good point, Thumper.

Herring thinks "We're not as bad as them" is an excuse for not doing
what's right?


Nope, nobody ever said that... but you guys do keep on won't you?

Meyer[_2_] January 15th 13 12:43 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On 1/15/2013 4:36 AM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:19 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/14/2013 10:07 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*


[trimmed]

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html


Your reference shows the US at 4.8 in 2010 (higher in previous years)
but why stop there? Seems there is plenty of room for improvement.

Martinique 4.2
Albania 4.0
Chile 3.7
Solomon Is. 3.7
Sri Lanka 3.6
India 3.5
Montenegro 3.5
Argentina 3.4
Cambodia 3.4
Turkey 3.3
Taiwan 3.2
Uzbekistan 3.1
Latvia 3.1
Iran 3.0
Fiji 2.8
Liechtenstein 2.8
Nepal 2.8
Bangladesh 2.7
Afghanistan 2.4 ? source: WHO
Korea 2.6
Luxembourg 2.5
Malaysia 2.3
Syria 2.3 ?
Azerbaijan 2.2
Kuwait 2.2
Lebanon 2.2
Finland 2.2
Tajikistan 2.1
Israel 2.1
Iraq 2.0 ?
Bulgaria 2.0
Romania 2.0
Macedonia 1.9
Jordan 1.8
Belgium 1.7
Cyprus 1.7
Czech Rep. 1.7
Canada 1.6
Viet Nam 1.6
Maldives 1.6
Slovakia 1.5
Bosnia/Herz. 1.5
Greece 1.5
Armenia 1.4
Croatia 1.4
Hungary 1.3
Andorra 1.3
Ireland 1.2
Portugal 1.2
Serbia 1.2
UK 1.2
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Poland 1.1
Samoa 1.1
Australia 1.0
China 1.0
Bhutan 1.0
Malta 1.0
Saudi Arabia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Tonga 1.0
Italy 0.9
Qatar 0.9
Denmark 0.9
Micronesia 0.9
New Zealand 0.9
Vanuatu 0.9
Spain 0.8
Germany 0.8
U.A.E. 0.8
Macao 0.7
Oman 0.7
Slovenia 0.7
Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6
Bahrain 0.6
Guam 0.6
Norway 0.6
Brunei 0.5
Japan 0.4
French Polynesia 0.4
Singapore 0.3
Iceland 0.3
Hong Kong 0.2
Monaco 0.0
Palau 0.0

Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?



Good point, Thumper.

Herring thinks "We're not as bad as them" is an excuse for not doing
what's right?


What's right, in your opinion.

BAR[_2_] January 15th 13 01:04 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*

Honduras 91.6

El Salvador 69.2

Cote d'lvoire 56.9

Jamaica 52.2

Venezuela 45.1

Belize 41.4

US Virgin Islands 39.2

Guatemala 38.5

Saint Kits and Nevis 38.2

Zambia 38.0

Uganda 36.3

Malawi 36.0

Lesotho 35.2

Trinidad and Tobago 35.2

Colombia 33.4

South Africa 31.8

Congo 30.8

Central African Republic 29.3

Bahamas 27.4

Puerto Rico 26.2

Saint Lucia 25.2

Dominican Republic 25.0

Tanzania 24.5

Sudan 24.2

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9

Ethiopia 22.5

Guinea 22.5

Dominica 22.1

Burundi 21.7

Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7

Panama 21.6

Brazil 21.0

Equatorial Guinea 20.7

Guinea-Bissau 20.2

Kenya 20.1

Kyrgyzstan 20.1

Cameroon 19.7

Montserrat 19.7

Greenland 19.2

Angola 19.0

Guyana 18.6

Burkina Faso 18.0

Eritrea 17.8

Namibia 17.2

Rwanda 17.1

Mexico 16.9

Chad 15.8

Ghana 15.7

Ecuador 15.2

North Korea 15.2

Benin 15.1

Sierra Leone 14.9

Mauritania 14.7

Botswana 14.5

Zimbabwe 14.3

Gabon 13.8

Nicaragua 13.6

French Guiana 13.3

Papua New Guinea 13.0

Swaziland 12.9

Bermuda 12.3

Comoros 12.2

Nigeria 12.2

Cape Verde 11.6

Grenada 11.5

Paraguay 11.5

Barbados 11.3

Togo 10.9

Gambia 10.8

Peru 10.8

Myanmar 10.2

Russia 10.2

Liberia 10.1

Costa Rica 10.0

Nauru 9.8

Bolivia 8.9

Mozambique 8.8

Kazakhstan 8.8

Senegal 8.7

Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7

Mongolia 8.7

British Virgin Islands 8.6

Cayman Islands 8.4

Seychelles 8.3

Madagascar 8.1

Indonesia 8.1

Mali 8.0

Pakistan 7.8

Moldova 7.5

Kiribati 7.3

Guadeloupe 7.0

Haiti 6.9

Timor-Leste 6.9

Anguilla 6.8

Antigua and Barbuda 6.8

Lithuania 6.6

Uruguay 5.9

Philippines 5.4

Ukraine 5.2

Estonia 5.2

Cuba 5.0

Belarus 4.9

Thailand 4.8

Suriname 4.6

Laos 4.6

Georgia 4.3

Martinique 4.2

And

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html

Salmonbait


===

Shocking statistics for Honduras at over 20 times the US rate. I
wonder what that's all about?


It has to be the gun culture in Honduras.



BAR[_2_] January 15th 13 01:13 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
In article ,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:


Ahaaahaaahaaahaaaahahahahaha!!

Relying on statistics from the UN? Really? You a big fan of the UN?

_______________________________________-

I found this video to be interesting and frankly surprising. The guy
is obviously a gun ownership advocate, but he doesn't come across as a
ultra right wing nutcase. He makes solid points about how the media
and some politicians play on emotions resulting from tragic events,
but then puts them in overall perspective. I think the points he
makes towards the end of the video makes more sense than anything
coming out of DC or many of the reactionary media commentaries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooa98FHuaU0

Very interesting.



Salmonbait[_2_] January 15th 13 01:53 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:19 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/14/2013 10:07 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*


[trimmed]

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html


Your reference shows the US at 4.8 in 2010 (higher in previous years)
but why stop there? Seems there is plenty of room for improvement.

Martinique 4.2
Albania 4.0
Chile 3.7
Solomon Is. 3.7
Sri Lanka 3.6
India 3.5
Montenegro 3.5
Argentina 3.4
Cambodia 3.4
Turkey 3.3
Taiwan 3.2
Uzbekistan 3.1
Latvia 3.1
Iran 3.0
Fiji 2.8
Liechtenstein 2.8
Nepal 2.8
Bangladesh 2.7
Afghanistan 2.4 ? source: WHO
Korea 2.6
Luxembourg 2.5
Malaysia 2.3
Syria 2.3 ?
Azerbaijan 2.2
Kuwait 2.2
Lebanon 2.2
Finland 2.2
Tajikistan 2.1
Israel 2.1
Iraq 2.0 ?
Bulgaria 2.0
Romania 2.0
Macedonia 1.9
Jordan 1.8
Belgium 1.7
Cyprus 1.7
Czech Rep. 1.7
Canada 1.6
Viet Nam 1.6
Maldives 1.6
Slovakia 1.5
Bosnia/Herz. 1.5
Greece 1.5
Armenia 1.4
Croatia 1.4
Hungary 1.3
Andorra 1.3
Ireland 1.2
Portugal 1.2
Serbia 1.2
UK 1.2
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Poland 1.1
Samoa 1.1
Australia 1.0
China 1.0
Bhutan 1.0
Malta 1.0
Saudi Arabia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Tonga 1.0
Italy 0.9
Qatar 0.9
Denmark 0.9
Micronesia 0.9
New Zealand 0.9
Vanuatu 0.9
Spain 0.8
Germany 0.8
U.A.E. 0.8
Macao 0.7
Oman 0.7
Slovenia 0.7
Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6
Bahrain 0.6
Guam 0.6
Norway 0.6
Brunei 0.5
Japan 0.4
French Polynesia 0.4
Singapore 0.3
Iceland 0.3
Hong Kong 0.2
Monaco 0.0
Palau 0.0

Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?


There's always room for improvement.

So what? I sure don't recall saying this country was perfect. I'm just not in favor of making it out
to be the ****tiest country in the world like ESAD, Donnie, jps, et al. I suppose you should be in
the list also, given the wagon you ride.


Salmonbait

--

**Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government
take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.**

Salmonbait[_2_] January 15th 13 01:56 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:33:57 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:47:25 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:12:30 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Ahaaahaaahaaahaaaahahahahaha!!

Relying on statistics from the UN? Really? You a big fan of the UN?


Did you find fault with the data - compiled by the World Health Organization?

"Public health data on homicides were mainly derived from databases on deaths by cause disseminated
by the World Health Organization (WHO)."

Maybe you should stick to projecting about your maternal relationships.

Salmonbait


Skirted the question, didn't you?

That's like me quoting Sean Hannity to make a political point.

If you're a modern Republican, you hate the UN.


Here are the answers to your questions.

No, no, and no.

Why should I hate the UN? The 'hating' of anything is an affront to one's serenity.
\
That's why you'll never see me get angry enough to call anyone here a 'mother****er'.


Salmonbait

--

**Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government
take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.**

ESAD January 15th 13 02:00 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On 1/15/13 8:53 AM, Salmonbait wrote:


So what? I sure don't recall saying this country was perfect. I'm just not in favor of making it out
to be the ****tiest country in the world like ESAD, Donnie, jps, et al. I suppose you should be in
the list also, given the wagon you ride.


Salmonbait


None of the people you cited "make the United States out to be the
****tiest country in the world." There is no doubt, however, that you
are one of the ****tiest people around.



iBoaterer[_2_] January 15th 13 02:16 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:17:53 -0500, ESAD wrote:

Oh, the answer is extreme poverty and a repressive right wing government
that kills its enemies, perceived and real, and critics.


Honduras, maybe but how do you explain BVI?


BVI has a lot of poverty, it's just not out in the open, they keep them
at bay in the ghettos.

iBoaterer[_2_] January 15th 13 02:17 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
In article , says...

On 1/14/2013 4:25 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:17:53 -0500, ESAD wrote:

Oh, the answer is extreme poverty and a repressive right wing government
that kills its enemies, perceived and real, and critics.


Honduras, maybe but how do you explain BVI?



gurgle, gurgle.. right wing, gurgle... gurgle... spit.... Harry is a
on trick pony...


WTF? Are you choking on sperm or something? Maybe you shouldn't be quite
so into it when you are teaching your daughter about sucking dicks
again.

iBoaterer[_2_] January 15th 13 02:18 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
In article , says...

On 1/15/2013 4:36 AM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:19 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/14/2013 10:07 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*


[trimmed]

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html

Your reference shows the US at 4.8 in 2010 (higher in previous years)
but why stop there? Seems there is plenty of room for improvement.

Martinique 4.2
Albania 4.0
Chile 3.7
Solomon Is. 3.7
Sri Lanka 3.6
India 3.5
Montenegro 3.5
Argentina 3.4
Cambodia 3.4
Turkey 3.3
Taiwan 3.2
Uzbekistan 3.1
Latvia 3.1
Iran 3.0
Fiji 2.8
Liechtenstein 2.8
Nepal 2.8
Bangladesh 2.7
Afghanistan 2.4 ? source: WHO
Korea 2.6
Luxembourg 2.5
Malaysia 2.3
Syria 2.3 ?
Azerbaijan 2.2
Kuwait 2.2
Lebanon 2.2
Finland 2.2
Tajikistan 2.1
Israel 2.1
Iraq 2.0 ?
Bulgaria 2.0
Romania 2.0
Macedonia 1.9
Jordan 1.8
Belgium 1.7
Cyprus 1.7
Czech Rep. 1.7
Canada 1.6
Viet Nam 1.6
Maldives 1.6
Slovakia 1.5
Bosnia/Herz. 1.5
Greece 1.5
Armenia 1.4
Croatia 1.4
Hungary 1.3
Andorra 1.3
Ireland 1.2
Portugal 1.2
Serbia 1.2
UK 1.2
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Poland 1.1
Samoa 1.1
Australia 1.0
China 1.0
Bhutan 1.0
Malta 1.0
Saudi Arabia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Tonga 1.0
Italy 0.9
Qatar 0.9
Denmark 0.9
Micronesia 0.9
New Zealand 0.9
Vanuatu 0.9
Spain 0.8
Germany 0.8
U.A.E. 0.8
Macao 0.7
Oman 0.7
Slovenia 0.7
Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6
Bahrain 0.6
Guam 0.6
Norway 0.6
Brunei 0.5
Japan 0.4
French Polynesia 0.4
Singapore 0.3
Iceland 0.3
Hong Kong 0.2
Monaco 0.0
Palau 0.0

Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?



Good point, Thumper.

Herring thinks "We're not as bad as them" is an excuse for not doing
what's right?


Nope, nobody ever said that... but you guys do keep on won't you?


You stupid idiot!!! Did you even bother to, or can you, read THE
TITLE????

thumper January 15th 13 03:29 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On 1/15/2013 5:53 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:19 -0800, thumper wrote:


Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?


There's always room for improvement.

So what? I sure don't recall saying this country was perfect. I'm just not in favor of making it out
to be the ****tiest country in the world like ESAD, Donnie, jps, et al. I suppose you should be in
the list also, given the wagon you ride.



http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

Salmonbait[_2_] January 15th 13 03:49 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:29:02 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/15/2013 5:53 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:19 -0800, thumper wrote:


Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?


There's always room for improvement.

So what? I sure don't recall saying this country was perfect. I'm just not in favor of making it out
to be the ****tiest country in the world like ESAD, Donnie, jps, et al. I suppose you should be in
the list also, given the wagon you ride.



http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html


Yup, when 'person B' presented, "Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?"
Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

Califbill January 15th 13 05:16 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
wrote in message ...

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:59:15 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:45:58 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"jps" wrote in message
. ..

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:


Ahaaahaaahaaahaaaahahahahaha!!

Relying on statistics from the UN? Really? You a big fan of the UN?

_______________________________________-

I found this video to be interesting and frankly surprising. The guy
is obviously a gun ownership advocate, but he doesn't come across as a
ultra right wing nutcase. He makes solid points about how the media
and some politicians play on emotions resulting from tragic events,
but then puts them in overall perspective. I think the points he
makes towards the end of the video makes more sense than anything
coming out of DC or many of the reactionary media commentaries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooa98FHuaU0


====

He makes a lot of sense and confirms what many of us already
suspected. Since his views do not support the emotional anti gun
agenda however, he will not get much notice in mainstream media.

Anyone highlighting the inner city crime problem that we have will
usually be accused of racism shortly thereafter.


That is why you need to dig out the statistics on exactly who is
killing whom. It is not the first thing people bring up when they
start citing statistics. They would like us to believe it is kids like
the ones Newtown who are the main victims.

--------------------------

Last night on the local news. Chief Jordon was talking about the rash of
killings since the first of the year. Good thing he is Black. As he
commented that the majority of the shootings are part of a feud between two
African-American gangs. They are feuding over the killing of a girl late
last year, and also over the robbery and theft business in the area. I
would estimate 90% of the killings, excluding suicide are by drug gangs here
in this country.


Califbill January 15th 13 05:18 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
"Califbill" wrote in message
...

wrote in message ...

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:59:15 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:45:58 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"jps" wrote in message
. ..

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:


Ahaaahaaahaaahaaaahahahahaha!!

Relying on statistics from the UN? Really? You a big fan of the UN?

_______________________________________-

I found this video to be interesting and frankly surprising. The guy
is obviously a gun ownership advocate, but he doesn't come across as a
ultra right wing nutcase. He makes solid points about how the media
and some politicians play on emotions resulting from tragic events,
but then puts them in overall perspective. I think the points he
makes towards the end of the video makes more sense than anything
coming out of DC or many of the reactionary media commentaries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooa98FHuaU0


====

He makes a lot of sense and confirms what many of us already
suspected. Since his views do not support the emotional anti gun
agenda however, he will not get much notice in mainstream media.

Anyone highlighting the inner city crime problem that we have will
usually be accused of racism shortly thereafter.


That is why you need to dig out the statistics on exactly who is
killing whom. It is not the first thing people bring up when they
start citing statistics. They would like us to believe it is kids like
the ones Newtown who are the main victims.

--------------------------

Last night on the local news. Chief Jordon was talking about the rash of
killings since the first of the year. Good thing he is Black. As he
commented that the majority of the shootings are part of a feud between two
African-American gangs. They are feuding over the killing of a girl late
last year, and also over the robbery and theft business in the area. I
would estimate 90% of the killings, excluding suicide are by drug gangs here
in this country.


--------------
link
http://photos.mercurynews.com/2013/0...pike-in-crime/



iBoaterer[_2_] January 15th 13 05:45 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:16:03 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

BVI has a lot of poverty, it's just not out in the open, they keep them
at bay in the ghettos.



cite that.


Let's see, what is that you say when I ask you to cite something? Oh,
yeah, "do your own homework".....

But, hey, I know you can't so I will, but of course, I know that you'll
cherry pick a few words out of these to make it sound like it's okay,
instead of comprehending and reading the whole.....

http://tinyurl.com/bxysudx

http://tinyurl.com/as9nghc




jps January 15th 13 07:30 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:56:33 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:33:57 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:47:25 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:12:30 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Ahaaahaaahaaahaaaahahahahaha!!

Relying on statistics from the UN? Really? You a big fan of the UN?

Did you find fault with the data - compiled by the World Health Organization?

"Public health data on homicides were mainly derived from databases on deaths by cause disseminated
by the World Health Organization (WHO)."

Maybe you should stick to projecting about your maternal relationships.

Salmonbait


Skirted the question, didn't you?

That's like me quoting Sean Hannity to make a political point.

If you're a modern Republican, you hate the UN.


Here are the answers to your questions.

No, no, and no.

Why should I hate the UN? The 'hating' of anything is an affront to one's serenity.
\
That's why you'll never see me get angry enough to call anyone here a 'mother****er'.


Salmonbait


Hahahaha! Gets your attention, doesn't it?

Ever watch Deadwood, cocksucker?

jps January 15th 13 07:33 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:53:12 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:19 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/14/2013 10:07 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*


[trimmed]

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html


Your reference shows the US at 4.8 in 2010 (higher in previous years)
but why stop there? Seems there is plenty of room for improvement.

Martinique 4.2
Albania 4.0
Chile 3.7
Solomon Is. 3.7
Sri Lanka 3.6
India 3.5
Montenegro 3.5
Argentina 3.4
Cambodia 3.4
Turkey 3.3
Taiwan 3.2
Uzbekistan 3.1
Latvia 3.1
Iran 3.0
Fiji 2.8
Liechtenstein 2.8
Nepal 2.8
Bangladesh 2.7
Afghanistan 2.4 ? source: WHO
Korea 2.6
Luxembourg 2.5
Malaysia 2.3
Syria 2.3 ?
Azerbaijan 2.2
Kuwait 2.2
Lebanon 2.2
Finland 2.2
Tajikistan 2.1
Israel 2.1
Iraq 2.0 ?
Bulgaria 2.0
Romania 2.0
Macedonia 1.9
Jordan 1.8
Belgium 1.7
Cyprus 1.7
Czech Rep. 1.7
Canada 1.6
Viet Nam 1.6
Maldives 1.6
Slovakia 1.5
Bosnia/Herz. 1.5
Greece 1.5
Armenia 1.4
Croatia 1.4
Hungary 1.3
Andorra 1.3
Ireland 1.2
Portugal 1.2
Serbia 1.2
UK 1.2
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Poland 1.1
Samoa 1.1
Australia 1.0
China 1.0
Bhutan 1.0
Malta 1.0
Saudi Arabia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Tonga 1.0
Italy 0.9
Qatar 0.9
Denmark 0.9
Micronesia 0.9
New Zealand 0.9
Vanuatu 0.9
Spain 0.8
Germany 0.8
U.A.E. 0.8
Macao 0.7
Oman 0.7
Slovenia 0.7
Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6
Bahrain 0.6
Guam 0.6
Norway 0.6
Brunei 0.5
Japan 0.4
French Polynesia 0.4
Singapore 0.3
Iceland 0.3
Hong Kong 0.2
Monaco 0.0
Palau 0.0

Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?


There's always room for improvement.

So what? I sure don't recall saying this country was perfect. I'm just not in favor of making it out
to be the ****tiest country in the world like ESAD, Donnie, jps, et al. I suppose you should be in
the list also, given the wagon you ride.


Salmonbait


There's over 80 countries with a better rate.

You don't give a **** about the USA being the best?

iBoaterer[_2_] January 15th 13 07:36 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:45:06 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:16:03 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

BVI has a lot of poverty, it's just not out in the open, they keep them
at bay in the ghettos.


cite that.


Let's see, what is that you say when I ask you to cite something? Oh,
yeah, "do your own homework".....

But, hey, I know you can't so I will, but of course, I know that you'll
cherry pick a few words out of these to make it sound like it's okay,
instead of comprehending and reading the whole.....

http://tinyurl.com/bxysudx

http://tinyurl.com/as9nghc



That is a nice campaign speech by a politician.

I didn't see any ghetto comments either.

The fact is 95% of the work force is employed. That is far better than
the US is doing.


Uh, what I said was there is a lot of poverty in the BVI. There is.

Salmonbait[_2_] January 15th 13 07:44 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:30:45 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:56:33 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:33:57 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:47:25 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:12:30 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Ahaaahaaahaaahaaaahahahahaha!!

Relying on statistics from the UN? Really? You a big fan of the UN?

Did you find fault with the data - compiled by the World Health Organization?

"Public health data on homicides were mainly derived from databases on deaths by cause disseminated
by the World Health Organization (WHO)."

Maybe you should stick to projecting about your maternal relationships.

Salmonbait

Skirted the question, didn't you?

That's like me quoting Sean Hannity to make a political point.

If you're a modern Republican, you hate the UN.


Here are the answers to your questions.

No, no, and no.

Why should I hate the UN? The 'hating' of anything is an affront to one's serenity.
\
That's why you'll never see me get angry enough to call anyone here a 'mother****er'.


Salmonbait


Hahahaha! Gets your attention, doesn't it?


So does dog **** on the sidewalk.

Ever watch Deadwood, cocksucker?



Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

Salmonbait[_2_] January 15th 13 08:25 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:33:48 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:53:12 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:19 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/14/2013 10:07 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*


[trimmed]

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html

Your reference shows the US at 4.8 in 2010 (higher in previous years)
but why stop there? Seems there is plenty of room for improvement.

Martinique 4.2
Albania 4.0
Chile 3.7
Solomon Is. 3.7
Sri Lanka 3.6
India 3.5
Montenegro 3.5
Argentina 3.4
Cambodia 3.4
Turkey 3.3
Taiwan 3.2
Uzbekistan 3.1
Latvia 3.1
Iran 3.0
Fiji 2.8
Liechtenstein 2.8
Nepal 2.8
Bangladesh 2.7
Afghanistan 2.4 ? source: WHO
Korea 2.6
Luxembourg 2.5
Malaysia 2.3
Syria 2.3 ?
Azerbaijan 2.2
Kuwait 2.2
Lebanon 2.2
Finland 2.2
Tajikistan 2.1
Israel 2.1
Iraq 2.0 ?
Bulgaria 2.0
Romania 2.0
Macedonia 1.9
Jordan 1.8
Belgium 1.7
Cyprus 1.7
Czech Rep. 1.7
Canada 1.6
Viet Nam 1.6
Maldives 1.6
Slovakia 1.5
Bosnia/Herz. 1.5
Greece 1.5
Armenia 1.4
Croatia 1.4
Hungary 1.3
Andorra 1.3
Ireland 1.2
Portugal 1.2
Serbia 1.2
UK 1.2
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Poland 1.1
Samoa 1.1
Australia 1.0
China 1.0
Bhutan 1.0
Malta 1.0
Saudi Arabia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Tonga 1.0
Italy 0.9
Qatar 0.9
Denmark 0.9
Micronesia 0.9
New Zealand 0.9
Vanuatu 0.9
Spain 0.8
Germany 0.8
U.A.E. 0.8
Macao 0.7
Oman 0.7
Slovenia 0.7
Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6
Bahrain 0.6
Guam 0.6
Norway 0.6
Brunei 0.5
Japan 0.4
French Polynesia 0.4
Singapore 0.3
Iceland 0.3
Hong Kong 0.2
Monaco 0.0
Palau 0.0

Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?


There's always room for improvement.

So what? I sure don't recall saying this country was perfect. I'm just not in favor of making it out
to be the ****tiest country in the world like ESAD, Donnie, jps, et al. I suppose you should be in
the list also, given the wagon you ride.


Salmonbait


There's over 80 countries with a better rate.

You don't give a **** about the USA being the best?


Being 'the best' is an impossible dream given the population of this country and the Democrats'
desire to keep Blacks uneducated and/or on handouts.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

iBoaterer[_2_] January 15th 13 08:57 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:56:33 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:33:57 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:47:25 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:12:30 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:47 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Ahaaahaaahaaahaaaahahahahaha!!

Relying on statistics from the UN? Really? You a big fan of the UN?

Did you find fault with the data - compiled by the World Health Organization?

"Public health data on homicides were mainly derived from databases on deaths by cause disseminated
by the World Health Organization (WHO)."

Maybe you should stick to projecting about your maternal relationships.

Salmonbait

Skirted the question, didn't you?

That's like me quoting Sean Hannity to make a political point.

If you're a modern Republican, you hate the UN.


Here are the answers to your questions.

No, no, and no.

Why should I hate the UN? The 'hating' of anything is an affront to one's serenity.
\
That's why you'll never see me get angry enough to call anyone here a 'mother****er'.


Salmonbait


Hahahaha! Gets your attention, doesn't it?

Ever watch Deadwood, cocksucker?


Funny, John doesn't like to be called names, but he has no problem
belittling people he doesn't even know in the name of Christianity!

iBoaterer[_2_] January 15th 13 08:58 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:33:48 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:53:12 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:19 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/14/2013 10:07 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*


[trimmed]

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html

Your reference shows the US at 4.8 in 2010 (higher in previous years)
but why stop there? Seems there is plenty of room for improvement.

Martinique 4.2
Albania 4.0
Chile 3.7
Solomon Is. 3.7
Sri Lanka 3.6
India 3.5
Montenegro 3.5
Argentina 3.4
Cambodia 3.4
Turkey 3.3
Taiwan 3.2
Uzbekistan 3.1
Latvia 3.1
Iran 3.0
Fiji 2.8
Liechtenstein 2.8
Nepal 2.8
Bangladesh 2.7
Afghanistan 2.4 ? source: WHO
Korea 2.6
Luxembourg 2.5
Malaysia 2.3
Syria 2.3 ?
Azerbaijan 2.2
Kuwait 2.2
Lebanon 2.2
Finland 2.2
Tajikistan 2.1
Israel 2.1
Iraq 2.0 ?
Bulgaria 2.0
Romania 2.0
Macedonia 1.9
Jordan 1.8
Belgium 1.7
Cyprus 1.7
Czech Rep. 1.7
Canada 1.6
Viet Nam 1.6
Maldives 1.6
Slovakia 1.5
Bosnia/Herz. 1.5
Greece 1.5
Armenia 1.4
Croatia 1.4
Hungary 1.3
Andorra 1.3
Ireland 1.2
Portugal 1.2
Serbia 1.2
UK 1.2
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Poland 1.1
Samoa 1.1
Australia 1.0
China 1.0
Bhutan 1.0
Malta 1.0
Saudi Arabia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Tonga 1.0
Italy 0.9
Qatar 0.9
Denmark 0.9
Micronesia 0.9
New Zealand 0.9
Vanuatu 0.9
Spain 0.8
Germany 0.8
U.A.E. 0.8
Macao 0.7
Oman 0.7
Slovenia 0.7
Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6
Bahrain 0.6
Guam 0.6
Norway 0.6
Brunei 0.5
Japan 0.4
French Polynesia 0.4
Singapore 0.3
Iceland 0.3
Hong Kong 0.2
Monaco 0.0
Palau 0.0

Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?

There's always room for improvement.

So what? I sure don't recall saying this country was perfect. I'm just not in favor of making it out
to be the ****tiest country in the world like ESAD, Donnie, jps, et al. I suppose you should be in
the list also, given the wagon you ride.


Salmonbait


There's over 80 countries with a better rate.

You don't give a **** about the USA being the best?


Being 'the best' is an impossible dream given the population of this country and the Democrats'
desire to keep Blacks uneducated and/or on handouts.


Salmonbait


What an idiot! Do you really believe that **** you wrote above? Please,
give some real evidence of that.

Meyer[_2_] January 15th 13 10:01 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On 1/15/2013 2:33 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:53:12 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:19 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/14/2013 10:07 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*


[trimmed]

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html

Your reference shows the US at 4.8 in 2010 (higher in previous years)
but why stop there? Seems there is plenty of room for improvement.

Martinique 4.2
Albania 4.0
Chile 3.7
Solomon Is. 3.7
Sri Lanka 3.6
India 3.5
Montenegro 3.5
Argentina 3.4
Cambodia 3.4
Turkey 3.3
Taiwan 3.2
Uzbekistan 3.1
Latvia 3.1
Iran 3.0
Fiji 2.8
Liechtenstein 2.8
Nepal 2.8
Bangladesh 2.7
Afghanistan 2.4 ? source: WHO
Korea 2.6
Luxembourg 2.5
Malaysia 2.3
Syria 2.3 ?
Azerbaijan 2.2
Kuwait 2.2
Lebanon 2.2
Finland 2.2
Tajikistan 2.1
Israel 2.1
Iraq 2.0 ?
Bulgaria 2.0
Romania 2.0
Macedonia 1.9
Jordan 1.8
Belgium 1.7
Cyprus 1.7
Czech Rep. 1.7
Canada 1.6
Viet Nam 1.6
Maldives 1.6
Slovakia 1.5
Bosnia/Herz. 1.5
Greece 1.5
Armenia 1.4
Croatia 1.4
Hungary 1.3
Andorra 1.3
Ireland 1.2
Portugal 1.2
Serbia 1.2
UK 1.2
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Poland 1.1
Samoa 1.1
Australia 1.0
China 1.0
Bhutan 1.0
Malta 1.0
Saudi Arabia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Tonga 1.0
Italy 0.9
Qatar 0.9
Denmark 0.9
Micronesia 0.9
New Zealand 0.9
Vanuatu 0.9
Spain 0.8
Germany 0.8
U.A.E. 0.8
Macao 0.7
Oman 0.7
Slovenia 0.7
Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6
Bahrain 0.6
Guam 0.6
Norway 0.6
Brunei 0.5
Japan 0.4
French Polynesia 0.4
Singapore 0.3
Iceland 0.3
Hong Kong 0.2
Monaco 0.0
Palau 0.0

Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?


There's always room for improvement.

So what? I sure don't recall saying this country was perfect. I'm just not in favor of making it out
to be the ****tiest country in the world like ESAD, Donnie, jps, et al. I suppose you should be in
the list also, given the wagon you ride.


Salmonbait


There's over 80 countries with a better rate.

You don't give a **** about the USA being the best?

Being the best at what?

Salmonbait[_2_] January 15th 13 10:03 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:58:47 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:33:48 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:53:12 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:18:19 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/14/2013 10:07 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
...as ESAD and a few others would have us believe:

Does this info ever get to the liberals?

*The latest Murder Statistics for the world:*

*Murders per 100,000 citizens*


[trimmed]

*United States 4.2*


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html

Your reference shows the US at 4.8 in 2010 (higher in previous years)
but why stop there? Seems there is plenty of room for improvement.

Martinique 4.2
Albania 4.0
Chile 3.7
Solomon Is. 3.7
Sri Lanka 3.6
India 3.5
Montenegro 3.5
Argentina 3.4
Cambodia 3.4
Turkey 3.3
Taiwan 3.2
Uzbekistan 3.1
Latvia 3.1
Iran 3.0
Fiji 2.8
Liechtenstein 2.8
Nepal 2.8
Bangladesh 2.7
Afghanistan 2.4 ? source: WHO
Korea 2.6
Luxembourg 2.5
Malaysia 2.3
Syria 2.3 ?
Azerbaijan 2.2
Kuwait 2.2
Lebanon 2.2
Finland 2.2
Tajikistan 2.1
Israel 2.1
Iraq 2.0 ?
Bulgaria 2.0
Romania 2.0
Macedonia 1.9
Jordan 1.8
Belgium 1.7
Cyprus 1.7
Czech Rep. 1.7
Canada 1.6
Viet Nam 1.6
Maldives 1.6
Slovakia 1.5
Bosnia/Herz. 1.5
Greece 1.5
Armenia 1.4
Croatia 1.4
Hungary 1.3
Andorra 1.3
Ireland 1.2
Portugal 1.2
Serbia 1.2
UK 1.2
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Poland 1.1
Samoa 1.1
Australia 1.0
China 1.0
Bhutan 1.0
Malta 1.0
Saudi Arabia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Tonga 1.0
Italy 0.9
Qatar 0.9
Denmark 0.9
Micronesia 0.9
New Zealand 0.9
Vanuatu 0.9
Spain 0.8
Germany 0.8
U.A.E. 0.8
Macao 0.7
Oman 0.7
Slovenia 0.7
Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6
Bahrain 0.6
Guam 0.6
Norway 0.6
Brunei 0.5
Japan 0.4
French Polynesia 0.4
Singapore 0.3
Iceland 0.3
Hong Kong 0.2
Monaco 0.0
Palau 0.0

Isn't pride supposed to be a sin?

There's always room for improvement.

So what? I sure don't recall saying this country was perfect. I'm just not in favor of making it out
to be the ****tiest country in the world like ESAD, Donnie, jps, et al. I suppose you should be in
the list also, given the wagon you ride.


Salmonbait

There's over 80 countries with a better rate.

You don't give a **** about the USA being the best?


Being 'the best' is an impossible dream given the population of this country and the Democrats'
desire to keep Blacks uneducated and/or on handouts.


Salmonbait


What an idiot! Do you really believe that **** you wrote above? Please,
give some real evidence of that.


Here, be sure and look at all 200 or so.

http://homicidewatch.org/suspects/

Here's another: http://trenton.homicidewatch.org/suspects/

Check out Chicago: http://homicides.redeyechicago.com/races/

I'm sure a little more research on your part will provide the evidence you need.


Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

ESAD January 15th 13 10:05 PM

I reckon this country isn't as bad....
 
On 1/15/13 5:03 PM, Salmonbait wrote:


Here, be sure and look at all 200 or so.



Salmonbait

--

'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Herring continues to reveal his racism.

Salmonbait is correct: he stinks.


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