On 1/11/2013 12:12 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 04:03:37 -0500, Meyer wrote:

I like the mangroves here because they are protected and nobody is
going to build anything else in the bay.


Why are they called man"groves?

Big roots they stick everywhere they can

But why do they call them "man" groves. I can see citrus groves. But why
man groves

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On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:25:58 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:55:36 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:


I have always believed the big concrete buildings on the barrier
islands might end up being island themselves.
Since the 70s and 80s, the pilings might be 40 or 50 feet down so they
will be there but the sand around the building could be gone.

The trouble with the sand being gone is the pilings are using skin
friction to hold the buildings down in a wind event. Without the sand,
no skin friction, and the wind pushes the building over. Not as common
with concrete tilt up or precast, but with pre-engineered metal
buildings, which are built as light as possible, you need that skin
friction, or if shallow foundations they need to be massive enough to
keep the wind from blowing the building over or away!

That is why the pilings are down 40 or 50 feet.

Well, the piles are down deep enough to develop skin friction equal to
the tensile strength of the pile plus a factor of safety.


People who move to Florida and settle right on the water would do well
to take a lesson from a couple of generations of old Floridians. You
don't see them build right on the beach!!!


I am about 5 miles from the beach, behind 2 miles of mangroves. The
surge from that direction will be blunted by nature. I have US41 and
I75 to the east that will stop sheet flow from the everglades. It is a
very effective flood control dam.

Mangroves are good for a LOT of reasons, one is that it will keep the
sand in place.


It also breaks up a surge tide, provides habitat for all kinds of
wildlife and helps with global warming.
I like the mangroves here because they are protected and nobody is
going to build anything else in the bay.

Lot's of fun things to see in a good sized mangrove swamp that isn't
overrun with people!

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The insurance is expensive enough that my likely damage from a foot or
two of water would be about 10-15 years of premiums and we have a 100+
year flood free history. That is one reason I bought here.

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Not really flooding, but when we were considering buying a house in
Jupiter, Florida, a few of my friends said, "What about the
hurricanes?"
Andrew was still fresh in peoples' minds.

I did a little research and discovered that the Jupiter area had not
had a direct hurricane hit in 100 years. Realizing how long the
coastline of Florida is, I determined that the chances of a hurricane
were actually small. So, we bought the house. In fact, we bought
two houses in the same development. one more as an investment (and an
escape for me from the other house and property that was dedicated to
Mrs. E's horses.)

A year later, we had three damaging hurricanes within 14 months.
Charlie was the first. It was a near-miss but was close enough to
cause a lot of wind damage. Because there had not been a hurricane in
the Jupiter area for so long, there were a lot of downed trees and
lots of roof damage. Then, a month later, Hurricane Jeanne hit. Not
a severe hurricane but enough to cause a lot of roof damage again on
many homes.

Then, in November of 2005, Hurricane Wilma. Direct pass of the eye
over Jupiter, causing more damage.

I now conclude that the fact that a storm hasn't hit in 100 years
means it's long overdue.

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On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:06:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



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The insurance is expensive enough that my likely damage from a foot
or
two of water would be about 10-15 years of premiums and we have a
100+
year flood free history. That is one reason I bought here.

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Not really flooding, but when we were considering buying a house in
Jupiter, Florida, a few of my friends said, "What about the
hurricanes?"
Andrew was still fresh in peoples' minds.

I did a little research and discovered that the Jupiter area had not
had a direct hurricane hit in 100 years. Realizing how long the
coastline of Florida is, I determined that the chances of a hurricane
were actually small. So, we bought the house. In fact, we bought
two houses in the same development. one more as an investment (and an
escape for me from the other house and property that was dedicated to
Mrs. E's horses.)

A year later, we had three damaging hurricanes within 14 months.
Charlie was the first. It was a near-miss but was close enough to
cause a lot of wind damage. Because there had not been a hurricane
in
the Jupiter area for so long, there were a lot of downed trees and
lots of roof damage. Then, a month later, Hurricane Jeanne hit.
Not
a severe hurricane but enough to cause a lot of roof damage again on
many homes.

Then, in November of 2005, Hurricane Wilma. Direct pass of the eye
over Jupiter, causing more damage.

I now conclude that the fact that a storm hasn't hit in 100 years
means it's long overdue.


I agree, where a hurricane hits is just a crap shoot.

At least Charley and Wilma hit you leaving, not coming in.

Charley was the same thing for us, the first real hit for a while so a
lot of things got blown over. I had 2 trees go down and both of them
hit something.
When Wilma hit most of the stuff that was going to blow away had blown
away,
We did have a few things around the neighborhood that took a hit since
the wind was coming from the other direction but nothing at my house.

Charley went in north of us, Wilma came in to the south..

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I think Charley did the most tree and roof damage in our area, again
because there had not been a hurricane close by for so long.
But Wilma was the strongest, even though it also came in from the
West. I was in the house alone during it and thought the walls were
going to come down. (stick house). Power was lost during the first
half. As the eye passed over, I remember them giving warnings that
Wilma was unusual because reports were coming into the radio station
that winds on the back side had gusts that were stronger than those in
the front. They were right.
Fortunately, the back side only lasted for a couple of hours whereas
the front was about four hours.