On 1/6/2013 8:57 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/6/13 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 09:36:29 -0500, ESAD wrote:

Nationally, about 12 percent of all charter schools that have opened in
the past two decades have shut down, according to the National Resource
Center on Charter School Finance & Governance. In Florida, the failure
rate is double, state records show.

If the public school failure rate was even close to being below 24%
with 2 to 3 times the funding, you would have an argument.

These charter schools tend to address the toughest students in places
where the public system has failed.
I would agree most of the problem in these places lie with the lack of
responsible parents but it is no more the fault of the charter system
than it is the public system..


Charter schools tend to cherry pick their students, and then dismiss the
"unruly" ones at a much higher rate than public schools.

Shouldn't the union baby sitters in the public schools have to take care
of the unruly students?


They are union, and that would be work... Also it would mean they would
have to give a ****...

On 1/6/13 11:17 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2013 8:57 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/6/13 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 09:36:29 -0500, ESAD wrote:

Nationally, about 12 percent of all charter schools that have
opened in
the past two decades have shut down, according to the National
Resource
Center on Charter School Finance & Governance. In Florida, the failure
rate is double, state records show.

If the public school failure rate was even close to being below 24%
with 2 to 3 times the funding, you would have an argument.

These charter schools tend to address the toughest students in places
where the public system has failed.
I would agree most of the problem in these places lie with the lack of
responsible parents but it is no more the fault of the charter system
than it is the public system..


Charter schools tend to cherry pick their students, and then dismiss the
"unruly" ones at a much higher rate than public schools.

Shouldn't the union baby sitters in the public schools have to take care
of the unruly students?


They are union, and that would be work... Also it would mean they would
have to give a ****...

Little Snot speaks from the experience of not being able to hold down a
job as a crate stacker in a unionized food warehouse.

On Monday, January 7, 2013 7:49:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote:
On 1/6/13 11:17 PM, JustWait wrote:

On 1/6/2013 8:57 PM, BAR wrote:

In article , says...



On 1/6/13 1:09 PM, wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 09:36:29 -0500, ESAD wrote:



Nationally, about 12 percent of all charter schools that have

opened in

the past two decades have shut down, according to the National

Resource

Center on Charter School Finance & Governance. In Florida, the failure

rate is double, state records show.



If the public school failure rate was even close to being below 24%

with 2 to 3 times the funding, you would have an argument.



These charter schools tend to address the toughest students in places

where the public system has failed.

I would agree most of the problem in these places lie with the lack of

responsible parents but it is no more the fault of the charter system

than it is the public system..





Charter schools tend to cherry pick their students, and then dismiss the

"unruly" ones at a much higher rate than public schools.



Shouldn't the union baby sitters in the public schools have to take care

of the unruly students?





They are union, and that would be work... Also it would mean they would

have to give a ****...



Little Snot speaks from the experience of not being able to hold down a

job as a crate stacker in a unionized food warehouse.

That's because he doesn't "give a ****" about doing an honest days work.

On 1/7/13 7:55 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 7, 2013 7:49:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote:
On 1/6/13 11:17 PM, JustWait wrote:

On 1/6/2013 8:57 PM, BAR wrote:

In article , says...



On 1/6/13 1:09 PM, wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 09:36:29 -0500, ESAD wrote:



Nationally, about 12 percent of all charter schools that have

opened in

the past two decades have shut down, according to the National

Resource

Center on Charter School Finance & Governance. In Florida, the failure

rate is double, state records show.



If the public school failure rate was even close to being below 24%

with 2 to 3 times the funding, you would have an argument.



These charter schools tend to address the toughest students in places

where the public system has failed.

I would agree most of the problem in these places lie with the lack of

responsible parents but it is no more the fault of the charter system

than it is the public system..





Charter schools tend to cherry pick their students, and then dismiss the

"unruly" ones at a much higher rate than public schools.



Shouldn't the union baby sitters in the public schools have to take care

of the unruly students?





They are union, and that would be work... Also it would mean they would

have to give a ****...



Little Snot speaks from the experience of not being able to hold down a

job as a crate stacker in a unionized food warehouse.

That's because he doesn't "give a ****" about doing an honest days work.



And doesn't know what an honest day's work is...

In article , says...

On 1/6/2013 8:57 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/6/13 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 09:36:29 -0500, ESAD wrote:

Nationally, about 12 percent of all charter schools that have opened in
the past two decades have shut down, according to the National Resource
Center on Charter School Finance & Governance. In Florida, the failure
rate is double, state records show.

If the public school failure rate was even close to being below 24%
with 2 to 3 times the funding, you would have an argument.

These charter schools tend to address the toughest students in places
where the public system has failed.
I would agree most of the problem in these places lie with the lack of
responsible parents but it is no more the fault of the charter system
than it is the public system..


Charter schools tend to cherry pick their students, and then dismiss the
"unruly" ones at a much higher rate than public schools.

Shouldn't the union baby sitters in the public schools have to take care
of the unruly students?


They are union, and that would be work... Also it would mean they would
have to give a ****...

Wow, awhile back you were very proud that your daughter allegedly
graduated from public school, why the change of heart?

On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 14:10:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"ESAD" wrote in message ...

This country is moving forward, and you and your
fellow nattering nabobs of negativity will be left behind.

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I am not sure we are actually moving forward. More like listing
heavily to port, I think.


No ****. The same fool who disparages the education in this country praises the public schools not
doing their job.

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 13:12:54 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 20:30:40 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/6/13 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 09:36:29 -0500, ESAD wrote:

Nationally, about 12 percent of all charter schools that have opened in
the past two decades have shut down, according to the National Resource
Center on Charter School Finance & Governance. In Florida, the failure
rate is double, state records show.

If the public school failure rate was even close to being below 24%
with 2 to 3 times the funding, you would have an argument.

These charter schools tend to address the toughest students in places
where the public system has failed.
I would agree most of the problem in these places lie with the lack of
responsible parents but it is no more the fault of the charter system
than it is the public system..


Charter schools tend to cherry pick their students, and then dismiss the
"unruly" ones at a much higher rate than public schools.

Is that a bad thing? Why should thugs and morons be the lowest common
denominator in schools, setting the level for everyone else?
I know everyone likes to point to European schools as a model but the
first thing you see there is they discriminate against students who
can't keep up and who are dragging the rest of the class down.
They get sent to "academically challenged kid" school and end up as
laborers if they can't compete in more advanced classes.

We will not do that here because they would not like the lack of
diversity that results ... in both schools ... even when challenged
kid school gets the most money (Montgomery County got in trouble for
that)

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Some public schools seem to do a better job of side stepping that
issue than others by creating a "school within a school" that has
invisible walls. Both of my kids attended public schools with a very
diverse student body but those with good learning skills and academic
potential had their own program for all intents and purposes. It
seemed to work well for everyone and I never heard any complaints
about discrimination. Kids who were disruptive were dealt with very
firmly.