Scarborough gets it right
 

On 12/22/2012 10:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/22/2012 9:38 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:43:47 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/21/2012 5:20 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:50:28 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , says...

On 12/21/2012 11:30 AM, thumper wrote:
On 12/21/2012 6:38 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:40:27 -0800, thumper
wrote:

On 12/20/2012 11:54 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:25:08 -0800, thumper
wrote:

On 12/19/2012 12:49 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:33:35 -0800, thumper
wrote:

On 12/18/2012 12:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:

Fine - do away with 'military style...combat assault
rifles with
high capacity (not defined)
magazines'. How the hell would that stop someone who
wanted to
kill twenty kids? It might make him a
little slower, but not much!

Yeah, lets make it as easy as possible.

That was kind of a stupid reply. C-4 would make it *very*
easy. In
fact, I'm wondering why some
jihadist hasn't strapped a bomb to her chest and walked into a
school cafeteria during lunchtime.

Yeah, it wasn't the time for sarcasm. You got my point though.

If the goal is to make the killing of 20 kids take 10 seconds
longer, then it's a stupid goal! Do
you get the point?


Look who's being stupid... the goal is to make the potential
killing of
20 kids result in less than 20 dead kids. The fewer the
better. I
don't buy your assertions.

I'd much rather find a solution that would prevent the killing
of all
twenty, not just allow the
killing of 19.

I guess that's a hard one.


It is. I don't think it's effective to hold out for perfection.

And it's all politics on both sides of the argument...

seems like an excuse to do nothing. I'll take improvement.

It's "politics" to not want innocent children dying?? You ARE a
****ing
moron.

Agreed, Kevin.


**** you john, just because I don't need a penis gun like you.... You
are a ****ing asshole to the max...

Scotty, I didn't agree with the name-calling ****. I should have been
more clear. I apologize for
that part of the message.

But, your 'it's all politics' comment was totally out of place.

my point about "political" was that both sides were engaged in hyperbole
here.... and as to out of place, how about you all misrepresenting
everything I say, just to avoid answering a question...

You
have been preaching against the
30-round clip.

ARE YOU ****ING SERIOUS??? I HAVE NOT SAID NOT ONE THING NEGATIVE ABOUT
30 ROUND CLIPS. I ASKED "WHY YOU NEED THEM" AND ABSOLUTLY NOTHING ELSE!!
YOUR OWN INSECURITY ON THE SUBJECT MAKES YOU READ MY POSTS WRONG!

All here have agreed it's not needed for civilians - multiple times. You
continue to
act as though you had this super idea and no one is agreeing with it
and everyone is political.

And I made it clear that nobody had to agree with me, just asked you all
to stop misrepresenting what I said... my point about "political" was
that both sides were engaged in hyperbole here....

You missed my entire point, all of you did cause you are shooting from a
corner you don't even need to be in.

My 'penis gun' is a Winchester Model 94 .30-.30 - one of these:
http://www.wisnersinc.com/additional...%20carbine.jpg

Wow, I am impressed.... well, not really.


Oh, I also have a .22 rifle and a 12 gauge.shotgun. Not much 'penis'
there, is there?

I used one of your 'penis guns' while in Vietnam. Didn't like it. But,
it would spray a lot of ammo
in a hurry!

Scarborough gets it right
 

On 12/22/12 10:06 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:



The latest Road and Track (great bathroom reading material, BTW) has the new McLaren Spider on the
cover. I could live with that.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...mp4-12c-spider

But, I've been paying my taxes, so I can't afford the Ducati, the Maryland-red barn, the Volvo
diesel powered trawler, etc., etc.

Life's a bitch when you pay your taxes.


Maybe if you didn't have that big pig of a truck you hardly ever use,
eh? It's getting a bit chilly for motorbike riding.

Scarborough gets it right
 

In article , says...

On 12/22/2012 10:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/22/2012 9:38 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:43:47 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/21/2012 5:20 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:50:28 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , says...

On 12/21/2012 11:30 AM, thumper wrote:
On 12/21/2012 6:38 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:40:27 -0800, thumper
wrote:

On 12/20/2012 11:54 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:25:08 -0800, thumper
wrote:

On 12/19/2012 12:49 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:33:35 -0800, thumper
wrote:

On 12/18/2012 12:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:

Fine - do away with 'military style...combat assault
rifles with
high capacity (not defined)
magazines'. How the hell would that stop someone who
wanted to
kill twenty kids? It might make him a
little slower, but not much!

Yeah, lets make it as easy as possible.

That was kind of a stupid reply. C-4 would make it *very*
easy. In
fact, I'm wondering why some
jihadist hasn't strapped a bomb to her chest and walked into a
school cafeteria during lunchtime.

Yeah, it wasn't the time for sarcasm. You got my point though.

If the goal is to make the killing of 20 kids take 10 seconds
longer, then it's a stupid goal! Do
you get the point?


Look who's being stupid... the goal is to make the potential
killing of
20 kids result in less than 20 dead kids. The fewer the
better. I
don't buy your assertions.

I'd much rather find a solution that would prevent the killing
of all
twenty, not just allow the
killing of 19.

I guess that's a hard one.


It is. I don't think it's effective to hold out for perfection.

And it's all politics on both sides of the argument...

seems like an excuse to do nothing. I'll take improvement.

It's "politics" to not want innocent children dying?? You ARE a
****ing
moron.

Agreed, Kevin.


**** you john, just because I don't need a penis gun like you.... You
are a ****ing asshole to the max...

Scotty, I didn't agree with the name-calling ****. I should have been
more clear. I apologize for
that part of the message.

But, your 'it's all politics' comment was totally out of place.

my point about "political" was that both sides were engaged in hyperbole
here.... and as to out of place, how about you all misrepresenting
everything I say, just to avoid answering a question...

You
have been preaching against the
30-round clip.

ARE YOU ****ING SERIOUS??? I HAVE NOT SAID NOT ONE THING NEGATIVE ABOUT
30 ROUND CLIPS. I ASKED "WHY YOU NEED THEM" AND ABSOLUTLY NOTHING ELSE!!
YOUR OWN INSECURITY ON THE SUBJECT MAKES YOU READ MY POSTS WRONG!

All here have agreed it's not needed for civilians - multiple times. You
continue to
act as though you had this super idea and no one is agreeing with it
and everyone is political.

And I made it clear that nobody had to agree with me, just asked you all
to stop misrepresenting what I said... my point about "political" was
that both sides were engaged in hyperbole here....

You missed my entire point, all of you did cause you are shooting from a
corner you don't even need to be in.

My 'penis gun' is a Winchester Model 94 .30-.30 - one of these:
http://www.wisnersinc.com/additional...%20carbine.jpg

Wow, I am impressed.... well, not really.


Oh, I also have a .22 rifle and a 12 gauge.shotgun. Not much 'penis'
there, is there?

I used one of your 'penis guns' while in Vietnam. Didn't like it. But,
it would spray a lot of ammo
in a hurry!



Scotty, do you find it odd that not ONE single person here gets or
agrees with you??

Scarborough gets it right
 

In article ,
says...

On 12/22/12 10:06 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:



The latest Road and Track (great bathroom reading material, BTW) has the new McLaren Spider on the
cover. I could live with that.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...mp4-12c-spider

But, I've been paying my taxes, so I can't afford the Ducati, the Maryland-red barn, the Volvo
diesel powered trawler, etc., etc.

Life's a bitch when you pay your taxes.


Maybe if you didn't have that big pig of a truck you hardly ever use,
eh? It's getting a bit chilly for motorbike riding.

It's not too cold to pay your taxes, though....

Scarborough gets it right
 

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:19:34 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/22/12 10:06 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:



The latest Road and Track (great bathroom reading material, BTW) has the new McLaren Spider on the
cover. I could live with that.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...mp4-12c-spider

But, I've been paying my taxes, so I can't afford the Ducati, the Maryland-red barn, the Volvo
diesel powered trawler, etc., etc.

Life's a bitch when you pay your taxes.


Maybe if you didn't have that big pig of a truck you hardly ever use,
eh? It's getting a bit chilly for motorbike riding.

Not at all. Took the Goose to WalMart and Giant just a while ago. If there's no snow or ice on the
ground, the temperature doesn't matter.

You failed to mention the Ducati, the barn, the trawler, etc.

The truck gets used when I need the truck.

Scarborough gets it right
 

On 12/22/12 1:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:19:34 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/22/12 10:06 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:



The latest Road and Track (great bathroom reading material, BTW) has the new McLaren Spider on the
cover. I could live with that.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...mp4-12c-spider

But, I've been paying my taxes, so I can't afford the Ducati, the Maryland-red barn, the Volvo
diesel powered trawler, etc., etc.

Life's a bitch when you pay your taxes.


Maybe if you didn't have that big pig of a truck you hardly ever use,
eh? It's getting a bit chilly for motorbike riding.

Not at all. Took the Goose to WalMart and Giant just a while ago. If there's no snow or ice on the
ground, the temperature doesn't matter.

You failed to mention the Ducati, the barn, the trawler, etc.

The truck gets used when I need the truck.


Ahh, Wal-Mart. Did you tip the underpaid abused staff?

Scarborough gets it right
 

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:47:20 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 02:29:16 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:43:25 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

ESAD wrote:

Fair enough, but I never said anything near "no one needs a 30 round
clip". I was talking to a friend today and he happened to bring out his
Chinese SKS with a 30 round clip. It was a pretty "tactical" looking
weapon, what really caught my attention was the rounds, how sharp they
were. Always thought bullets were more rounded.

We were talking about the advantages of a 30 clip and agreed, it's just
fun... but really not "necessary" for any legal use of the weapon. He
thinks you guys are goofy getting all bent out of shape because I asked
the obvious question BTW.

Either way, it was interesting to talk so someone who had so much
experience, and wasn't all defensive... so I could actually get to the
point of my questions.

When you absolutely lose it and decide your best way out is to shoot up a
school or movie theater or dirtbike race and then commit suicide by cop,
you'll probably want a fully auto, milled receiver AK47 with a 100-round magazine.

And you would probably kill less than with the semi auto. After the gun
climbs and puts most of the rounds in the ceiling, most will still be
alive.

That is really trigger discipline. You are supposed to fire short
bursts. In fact the current M-16 only fires 3 rounds at a trigger pull
in auto.

Didn't know that. They've changed it. Used to fire a whole clip in about half a second.

The Army has always 'taught' to fire three-round bursts, but I'd never heard they somehow managed to
limit the firing to three round bursts.

The ascendancy of the M240 SAW was brought into to provide suppressive
fire reliving the rifleman from blowing through magazines in short
order. The 3 round burst mode solved several problems with the M16,
barrel wear, burning your fingers on the gas tube and reducing the
amount of ammo that needed to get to the front-line troops.


Oh, didn't know that either. I see the burst control was added to the M16A2 version. That was smart.

Scarborough gets it right
 

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:55:05 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 02:29:16 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:43:25 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

ESAD wrote:

Fair enough, but I never said anything near "no one needs a 30 round
clip". I was talking to a friend today and he happened to bring out his
Chinese SKS with a 30 round clip. It was a pretty "tactical" looking
weapon, what really caught my attention was the rounds, how sharp they
were. Always thought bullets were more rounded.

We were talking about the advantages of a 30 clip and agreed, it's just
fun... but really not "necessary" for any legal use of the weapon. He
thinks you guys are goofy getting all bent out of shape because I asked
the obvious question BTW.

Either way, it was interesting to talk so someone who had so much
experience, and wasn't all defensive... so I could actually get to the
point of my questions.

When you absolutely lose it and decide your best way out is to shoot up a
school or movie theater or dirtbike race and then commit suicide by cop,
you'll probably want a fully auto, milled receiver AK47 with a 100-round magazine.

And you would probably kill less than with the semi auto. After the gun
climbs and puts most of the rounds in the ceiling, most will still be
alive.

That is really trigger discipline. You are supposed to fire short
bursts. In fact the current M-16 only fires 3 rounds at a trigger pull
in auto.

Didn't know that. They've changed it. Used to fire a whole clip in about half a second.

Bull****.
.

Well, I guess it really took a couple seconds to go through 30 rounds - but it seemed like half a
second!

Scarborough gets it right
 

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:43:49 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:43:25 -0600, Califbill wrote:

ESAD wrote:

Fair enough, but I never said anything near "no one needs a 30 round
clip". I was talking to a friend today and he happened to bring out his
Chinese SKS with a 30 round clip. It was a pretty "tactical" looking
weapon, what really caught my attention was the rounds, how sharp they
were. Always thought bullets were more rounded.

We were talking about the advantages of a 30 clip and agreed, it's just
fun... but really not "necessary" for any legal use of the weapon. He
thinks you guys are goofy getting all bent out of shape because I asked
the obvious question BTW.

Either way, it was interesting to talk so someone who had so much
experience, and wasn't all defensive... so I could actually get to the
point of my questions.

When you absolutely lose it and decide your best way out is to shoot up a
school or movie theater or dirtbike race and then commit suicide by cop,
you'll probably want a fully auto, milled receiver AK47 with a 100-round magazine.

And you would probably kill less than with the semi auto. After the gun
climbs and puts most of the rounds in the ceiling, most will still be
alive.

Hold it sideways.

So the rappers and gangsta's have it right?

If they're holding their M16's sideways while on full automatic, then they were well trained in the
slums and ghettos run by Democrat mayors!

Scarborough gets it right
 

In article ,
says...

On 12/22/12 1:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:19:34 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/22/12 10:06 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:



The latest Road and Track (great bathroom reading material, BTW) has the new McLaren Spider on the
cover. I could live with that.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...mp4-12c-spider

But, I've been paying my taxes, so I can't afford the Ducati, the Maryland-red barn, the Volvo
diesel powered trawler, etc., etc.

Life's a bitch when you pay your taxes.


Maybe if you didn't have that big pig of a truck you hardly ever use,
eh? It's getting a bit chilly for motorbike riding.

Not at all. Took the Goose to WalMart and Giant just a while ago. If there's no snow or ice on the
ground, the temperature doesn't matter.

You failed to mention the Ducati, the barn, the trawler, etc.

The truck gets used when I need the truck.


Ahh, Wal-Mart. Did you tip the underpaid abused staff?

I'll bet they pay their taxes, deadbeat.