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On 12/16/2012 8:38 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
"Califbill" wrote: So? Why did he have the insane desire to kill a bunch of small, innocent children? That is what we need to discover. Why so many more are going off the deep end. Is it all the additives in the diet? Too many people congesting an area? Why? Interesting article: http://tinyurl.com/924c7d6 Like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_II:_The_Chosen Here's a whole list of games the kids can play. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...erson_shooters I'm no doctor, but I think the emergence of these and other computer games add greatly to the ADD and ADHD problems in this country. Correlation is not causation but there are some interesting correlation coefficients cited in this article. http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/01/the-geography-of-gun-deaths/69354/ |
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:39:01 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Dec 15, 1:26*pm, jps wrote: And just what does that tell you about the difference between our two societies and American's ability to handle weapons responsibly? Not much. Nothing is a 'weapon' until it's turned into one, regardless of if it's a gun, knife, claw hammer, axe, box opener... We are a nation of desperate people, And why is that? Think making guns real available is a good idea? No. I obtained mine legally and maintain and use them in accordance with State and Federal laws. If that's not suitable for you then by all means get out of the dump and run for high office. Then do what you can to change the law. Every one of the weapons used in high casualty incidents were obtained legally. |
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On Dec 16, 10:52*pm, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:39:01 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 15, 1:26*pm, jps wrote: And just what does that tell you about the difference between our two societies and American's ability to handle weapons responsibly? Not much. Nothing is a 'weapon' until it's turned into one, regardless of if it's a gun, knife, claw hammer, axe, box opener... We are a nation of desperate people, And why is that? Think making guns real available is a good idea? No. I obtained mine legally and maintain and use them in accordance with *State and Federal laws. If that's not suitable for you then by all means get out of the dump and run for high office. Then *do what you can to change the law. Every one of the weapons used in high casualty incidents were obtained legally. Ok, but that isn't relivant to your question. |
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In article , says...
On 12/16/2012 3:57 PM, BAR wrote: In article m, says... On 12/16/2012 2:00 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 05:20:27 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 16, 7:08 am, ESAD wrote: On 12/16/12 7:59 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote: He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems. I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed? http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,... 22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns. I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense. The United States has the most violent society in the modern western world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe. It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison populations. You'll get my point. Ever the racist, hey, John the Racist? What race was the shooter in Newtown, Connecticut? Maybe I missed something in John's post, but I didn't see anything 'racist' in it. Maybe I didn't look hard enough... When he can't respond to the subject of the post, he resorts to name-calling. Best to disregard it. Krause was hand picked and trained by Al Sharpton. In more ways than you know. Al Sharpton has taxes issues too. ...and Sharpton is slightly more credible... snerk Certainly more credible that your tales. |
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On Dec 17, 7:47*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:39:01 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 15, 1:26*pm, jps wrote: And just what does that tell you about the difference between our two societies and American's ability to handle weapons responsibly? Not much. Nothing is a 'weapon' until it's turned into one, regardless of if it's a gun, knife, claw hammer, axe, box opener... We are a nation of desperate people, And why is that? Think making guns real available is a good idea? No. I obtained mine legally and maintain and use them in accordance with *State and Federal laws. If that's not suitable for you then by all means get out of the dump and run for high office. Then *do what you can to change the law. Every one of the weapons used in high casualty incidents were obtained legally. That's the problem, someone obtains them legally, then someone either "borrows" them or steals them to commit crimes and kill innocent people and children. Yep! "Every one of the weapons used in high casualty incidents were obtained legally." Then used by criminal[s] in a highly illegal manner. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... Some questions have no easy answers. In China there have been a series of mass killings of children using knives. What is the psychological appeal to killing a room full of children? How do we make the schools safe short of posting an armed guard in every class room? How do we detect and isolate the mentally disturbed amongst us who are capable of such acts, without giving up our basic freedoms? Has something changed in our society which inspired these crimes - media, culture, video games, etc. ? Like I said, some questions have no easy answers. --------------------------------------------------------- So true. Like most I am sure, I was horrified and deeply saddened by the events of last Friday in Connecticut. The shear insanity of this 20 year old's actions are unfathomable. Also like most, I have watched and listened to the 24 hour a day coverage of the horrific event, mostly on cable news channels (MSNBC and CNN) and on the Internet. I was angry, sad, frustrated and depressed, depending on what specific aspect of the events were being discussed and/or analyzed. I tried to remember what our society was like back when I was a youngster. I came into this world in 1949. I found a website that provides (for a fee) statistical information on virtually any subject you are interested in. Since these mass murders seem to always involve someone who ultimately takes their own life as well, I searched for: number of suicides in USA since 1950 and the number of homicides in the USA since 1950. I fully expected to see an upward trend in these categories over the decades since 1950. To my surprise, there was not an upward trend. The data was presented in terms of male and female suicides and homicides per 100,000 in the overall population. Firearms were involved in the majority for both categories, but at the same relative level (percentage) for each decade. The number of suicides and homicides committed per 100,000 in 1950 and then for every decade since was about the same as those today, give or take a handful. Furthermore, the numbers were actually considerably higher than today for both categories in the 1980 - 1990 decades. I've heard arguments that lay blame on violent, gory video games, easy access to guns, drugs, poor parenting, mental health, etc. I am sure all have some level of contribution to violent crime and steps should be taken to address them. (Having just gone through the permitting process in Massachusetts for a firearm permit, I am completely in favor of the overall tightening of gun control laws and the banning of military type assault rifles. Massachusetts has one of, if not *the* most restrictive gun laws of all the States in the USA but I was still amazed at how easy it is to get a permit with very little training.) My conclusion is that no suicide or homicide is justified or acceptable in a society however the numbers are *not* increasing, contrary to what we may be led to believe or assume. From 1950 to the 1970/1980 decades we didn't really have the media information available to us that exists today. MSNBC and CNN have had 24 hour a day coverage of the horrible events since last Friday. Yahoo News on the Internet reports every shooting that takes place anywhere in the country, 15 minutes after it happens. (there's a new one today in Texas, involving one person). I am not attempting to trivialize or minimize the horrible events of Friday or of the mass killings that have occurred in the past few years. But statistics indicate that this is *not* a growing epidemic or upward trend. There were unfortunately more that occurred in the 1980's and 1990's. We just didn't hear as much about them as we hear today. |
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On 12/17/2012 7:43 AM, Eisboch wrote:
I am not attempting to trivialize or minimize the horrible events of Friday or of the mass killings that have occurred in the past few years. But statistics indicate that this is *not* a growing epidemic or upward trend. There were unfortunately more that occurred in the 1980's and 1990's. We just didn't hear as much about them as we hear today. Indeed. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=103186662 "angry about property taxes" |
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