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Bob Costas speaks the truth
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:34:01 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:53:07 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 12/9/2012 6:53 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/9/12 1:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 10:37:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:47:49 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:40:34 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message ... GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. ----------------- dang Ipad and the spelling corrections. You've referred several times to differences in the number of wives. Not a lot of instances in the bible of male prophets marrying other males, goats, or whatever. Ditto with Texas, Alabama, and other regions. I have a gay niece living with her girlfriend. They will probably invite me to a 'wedding' soon. I won't attend because I think the 'ceremony' is a sham. ----------------------------- It is supposed to be a free country. If you pay your taxes, do not force your views on someone else, and the partners are not children and are in agreement, then just let it be. Does not concern most of us, except maybe in your views, but their views are allowable also. I agree. They were both here for a 'Thanksgiving' dinner the week before Thanksgiving. No problem. But, I won't attend their wedding - if and when it occurs. You're just a bigoted asshole, Racist John. If not believing in 'Gay Marriage' makes me a bigoted asshole, then I reckon you're right, Kevin. There are many reasons why you are a bigoted asshole. If John is a bigoted asshole, he is a taxing paying bigoted asshole. Don't want to tell anyone what to do but I got invited to a Gay Marriage back in the 90's. I was against it too, still am. I went to the ceremony though. I figure if two people think they love each other and want to spend their lives together, who the f am I? And as far as the moral dilema, I figure God can decide how to judge them later... I was good friends with the guy and explained it to him just like that, he knew I didn't agree with his lifestyle, but realized that I too am a sinner and a Christian like him, and he didn't judge my sins... Where is it written that marriage is between a man and a woman? Dictionary.com mar·riage [mar-ij] Show IPA noun 1.a.the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc. Antonyms: separation. And, of course, you can probably find secondary and tertiary meanings that include gays, dogs, goats, etc. You are dishonest, you didn't give the whole definition. Not only are you a bigot, racist and intolerant, you are a liar. I provided the 'primary' definition and referred to the others (secondary and tertiary). If those words were beyond your comprehension, I apologize for their use. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:47:10 -0500, ESAD wrote:
On 12/11/12 8:34 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:44:33 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 12/10/2012 9:15 AM, ESAD wrote: On 12/10/12 9:02 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 20:07:55 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/9/2012 6:53 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/9/12 1:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 10:37:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:47:49 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:40:34 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message ... GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. ----------------- dang Ipad and the spelling corrections. You've referred several times to differences in the number of wives. Not a lot of instances in the bible of male prophets marrying other males, goats, or whatever. Ditto with Texas, Alabama, and other regions. I have a gay niece living with her girlfriend. They will probably invite me to a 'wedding' soon. I won't attend because I think the 'ceremony' is a sham. ----------------------------- It is supposed to be a free country. If you pay your taxes, do not force your views on someone else, and the partners are not children and are in agreement, then just let it be. Does not concern most of us, except maybe in your views, but their views are allowable also. I agree. They were both here for a 'Thanksgiving' dinner the week before Thanksgiving. No problem. But, I won't attend their wedding - if and when it occurs. You're just a bigoted asshole, Racist John. If not believing in 'Gay Marriage' makes me a bigoted asshole, then I reckon you're right, Kevin. There are many reasons why you are a bigoted asshole. If John is a bigoted asshole, he is a taxing paying bigoted asshole. Don't want to tell anyone what to do but I got invited to a Gay Marriage back in the 90's. I was against it too, still am. I went to the ceremony though. I figure if two people think they love each other and want to spend their lives together, who the f am I? And as far as the moral dilema, I figure God can decide how to judge them later... I was good friends with the guy and explained it to him just like that, he knew I didn't agree with his lifestyle, but realized that I too am a sinner and a Christian like him, and he didn't judge my sins... Yup. Well, I love my niece, play golf with her, watched her graduate from the Naval Academy, cheered when she became a Naval Aviator, and have had her and her 'spouse' for dinner several times. But, I won't participate in a 'marriage' between gays. Just don't believe in it. Call it something else, and I might go. Maybe - 'unionage', 'conjugage', 'amalgation', or make up another word. I guess I'm just a 'bigoted asshole', along with being, according to H&K, a racist asshole. "Participate"? You mean, attend the ceremony? No one is asking you to marry a gay. You're a small-minded, bigoted, racist asshole. He may be a bit bigoted. We all are. But what makes him a small minded, racist asshole? What makes him small minded is his constant far right wing bull**** and his stance that everything right is good and everything left is bad. What makes him a racist is his racism. He's made disparaging remarks here about Mexicans in his neighborhood, he's repeated Mexican jokes here as well. If the Mexicans on the corner trashed their yard, and I say, "The Mexicans on the corner trashed their yard," is that 'racist'? If so, then I'm guilty as charged, 'cause they trashed their f'ing yard! But, they have cleaned it up in the past year. So, that's a good thing. Cite the 'Mexican jokes', if you please! Yeah, it is racist. Why would you say "the Mexicans on the corner."? Why not just say "the people on the corner"? Because Mexicans have been moving into some of the houses in the neighborhood in numbers far exceeding the capacity of the house, living in extremely unsanitary conditions, and making the neighborhood look like crap with the trash in the yards and the cars parked in the yards. Actually, this was a problem throughout the county, and finally the county decided to take some action - based on zoning and health regulations. Things are looking up now because the job market has caused many of them to leave the area. Some, like the ones on the corner, have even cleaned up their yard. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:36:30 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:44:33 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 12/10/2012 9:15 AM, ESAD wrote: On 12/10/12 9:02 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 20:07:55 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/9/2012 6:53 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/9/12 1:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 10:37:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:47:49 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:40:34 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message ... GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. ----------------- dang Ipad and the spelling corrections. You've referred several times to differences in the number of wives. Not a lot of instances in the bible of male prophets marrying other males, goats, or whatever. Ditto with Texas, Alabama, and other regions. I have a gay niece living with her girlfriend. They will probably invite me to a 'wedding' soon. I won't attend because I think the 'ceremony' is a sham. ----------------------------- It is supposed to be a free country. If you pay your taxes, do not force your views on someone else, and the partners are not children and are in agreement, then just let it be. Does not concern most of us, except maybe in your views, but their views are allowable also. I agree. They were both here for a 'Thanksgiving' dinner the week before Thanksgiving. No problem. But, I won't attend their wedding - if and when it occurs. You're just a bigoted asshole, Racist John. If not believing in 'Gay Marriage' makes me a bigoted asshole, then I reckon you're right, Kevin. There are many reasons why you are a bigoted asshole. If John is a bigoted asshole, he is a taxing paying bigoted asshole. Don't want to tell anyone what to do but I got invited to a Gay Marriage back in the 90's. I was against it too, still am. I went to the ceremony though. I figure if two people think they love each other and want to spend their lives together, who the f am I? And as far as the moral dilema, I figure God can decide how to judge them later... I was good friends with the guy and explained it to him just like that, he knew I didn't agree with his lifestyle, but realized that I too am a sinner and a Christian like him, and he didn't judge my sins... Yup. Well, I love my niece, play golf with her, watched her graduate from the Naval Academy, cheered when she became a Naval Aviator, and have had her and her 'spouse' for dinner several times. But, I won't participate in a 'marriage' between gays. Just don't believe in it. Call it something else, and I might go. Maybe - 'unionage', 'conjugage', 'amalgation', or make up another word. I guess I'm just a 'bigoted asshole', along with being, according to H&K, a racist asshole. "Participate"? You mean, attend the ceremony? No one is asking you to marry a gay. You're a small-minded, bigoted, racist asshole. He may be a bit bigoted. We all are. But what makes him a small minded, racist asshole? What makes him small minded is his constant far right wing bull**** and his stance that everything right is good and everything left is bad. What makes him a racist is his racism. He's made disparaging remarks here about Mexicans in his neighborhood, he's repeated Mexican jokes here as well. If the Mexicans on the corner trashed their yard, and I say, "The Mexicans on the corner trashed their yard," is that 'racist'? If so, then I'm guilty as charged, 'cause they trashed their f'ing yard! But, they have cleaned it up in the past year. So, that's a good thing. Cite the 'Mexican jokes', if you please! Here, Racist John, you're welcome! On 3/2/10 3:49 PM, John H wrote: Since we were talking about Mexicans a couple days ago... Two Mexicans are stuck in the desert after crossing into the United States, wandering aimlessly and starving. They are about to just lie down and wait for death, when all of a sudden Luis says........ . "Hey Pepe, do you smell what I smell. Ees bacon, I theenk." "Si, Luis, eet sure smells like bacon." With renewed hope they struggle up the next sand dune,& there, in the distance, is a tree loaded with bacon. There's raw bacon, there's fried bacon, back bacon, double smoked bacon ... every imaginable kind of cured pork. "Pepe, Pepe, we ees saved. Ees a bacon tree." "Luis, maybe ees a meerage? We ees in the desert don't forget." "Pepe, since when deed you ever hear of a meerage that smell like bacon...ees no meerage, ees a bacon tree." And with that, Luis staggers towards the tree. He gets to within 5 metres, Pepe crawling close behind, when suddenly a machine gun opens up, and Luis drops like a wet sock. Mortally wounded, he warns Pepe with his dying breath, "Pepe... go back man, you was right, ees not a bacon tree!" "Luis, Luis mi amigo... what ees it? " "Pepe.. ees not a bacon tree. Ees Ees Ees Ees Ees a ham bush...." Nothing racist about it. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/11/12 11:03 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:36:30 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:44:33 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 12/10/2012 9:15 AM, ESAD wrote: On 12/10/12 9:02 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 20:07:55 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/9/2012 6:53 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/9/12 1:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 10:37:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:47:49 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:40:34 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message ... GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. ----------------- dang Ipad and the spelling corrections. You've referred several times to differences in the number of wives. Not a lot of instances in the bible of male prophets marrying other males, goats, or whatever. Ditto with Texas, Alabama, and other regions. I have a gay niece living with her girlfriend. They will probably invite me to a 'wedding' soon. I won't attend because I think the 'ceremony' is a sham. ----------------------------- It is supposed to be a free country. If you pay your taxes, do not force your views on someone else, and the partners are not children and are in agreement, then just let it be. Does not concern most of us, except maybe in your views, but their views are allowable also. I agree. They were both here for a 'Thanksgiving' dinner the week before Thanksgiving. No problem. But, I won't attend their wedding - if and when it occurs. You're just a bigoted asshole, Racist John. If not believing in 'Gay Marriage' makes me a bigoted asshole, then I reckon you're right, Kevin. There are many reasons why you are a bigoted asshole. If John is a bigoted asshole, he is a taxing paying bigoted asshole. Don't want to tell anyone what to do but I got invited to a Gay Marriage back in the 90's. I was against it too, still am. I went to the ceremony though. I figure if two people think they love each other and want to spend their lives together, who the f am I? And as far as the moral dilema, I figure God can decide how to judge them later... I was good friends with the guy and explained it to him just like that, he knew I didn't agree with his lifestyle, but realized that I too am a sinner and a Christian like him, and he didn't judge my sins... Yup. Well, I love my niece, play golf with her, watched her graduate from the Naval Academy, cheered when she became a Naval Aviator, and have had her and her 'spouse' for dinner several times. But, I won't participate in a 'marriage' between gays. Just don't believe in it. Call it something else, and I might go. Maybe - 'unionage', 'conjugage', 'amalgation', or make up another word. I guess I'm just a 'bigoted asshole', along with being, according to H&K, a racist asshole. "Participate"? You mean, attend the ceremony? No one is asking you to marry a gay. You're a small-minded, bigoted, racist asshole. He may be a bit bigoted. We all are. But what makes him a small minded, racist asshole? What makes him small minded is his constant far right wing bull**** and his stance that everything right is good and everything left is bad. What makes him a racist is his racism. He's made disparaging remarks here about Mexicans in his neighborhood, he's repeated Mexican jokes here as well. If the Mexicans on the corner trashed their yard, and I say, "The Mexicans on the corner trashed their yard," is that 'racist'? If so, then I'm guilty as charged, 'cause they trashed their f'ing yard! But, they have cleaned it up in the past year. So, that's a good thing. Cite the 'Mexican jokes', if you please! Here, Racist John, you're welcome! On 3/2/10 3:49 PM, John H wrote: Since we were talking about Mexicans a couple days ago... Two Mexicans are stuck in the desert after crossing into the United States, wandering aimlessly and starving. They are about to just lie down and wait for death, when all of a sudden Luis says........ . "Hey Pepe, do you smell what I smell. Ees bacon, I theenk." "Si, Luis, eet sure smells like bacon." With renewed hope they struggle up the next sand dune,& there, in the distance, is a tree loaded with bacon. There's raw bacon, there's fried bacon, back bacon, double smoked bacon ... every imaginable kind of cured pork. "Pepe, Pepe, we ees saved. Ees a bacon tree." "Luis, maybe ees a meerage? We ees in the desert don't forget." "Pepe, since when deed you ever hear of a meerage that smell like bacon...ees no meerage, ees a bacon tree." And with that, Luis staggers towards the tree. He gets to within 5 metres, Pepe crawling close behind, when suddenly a machine gun opens up, and Luis drops like a wet sock. Mortally wounded, he warns Pepe with his dying breath, "Pepe... go back man, you was right, ees not a bacon tree!" "Luis, Luis mi amigo... what ees it? " "Pepe.. ees not a bacon tree. Ees Ees Ees Ees Ees a ham bush...." Nothing racist about it. The point is, you are so insensitive culturally, you don't know when you are making remarks that are biased against groups of people. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/11/12 11:00 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:47:10 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/11/12 8:34 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:44:33 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 12/10/2012 9:15 AM, ESAD wrote: On 12/10/12 9:02 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 20:07:55 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/9/2012 6:53 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/9/12 1:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 10:37:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:47:49 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:40:34 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message ... GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. ----------------- dang Ipad and the spelling corrections. You've referred several times to differences in the number of wives. Not a lot of instances in the bible of male prophets marrying other males, goats, or whatever. Ditto with Texas, Alabama, and other regions. I have a gay niece living with her girlfriend. They will probably invite me to a 'wedding' soon. I won't attend because I think the 'ceremony' is a sham. ----------------------------- It is supposed to be a free country. If you pay your taxes, do not force your views on someone else, and the partners are not children and are in agreement, then just let it be. Does not concern most of us, except maybe in your views, but their views are allowable also. I agree. They were both here for a 'Thanksgiving' dinner the week before Thanksgiving. No problem. But, I won't attend their wedding - if and when it occurs. You're just a bigoted asshole, Racist John. If not believing in 'Gay Marriage' makes me a bigoted asshole, then I reckon you're right, Kevin. There are many reasons why you are a bigoted asshole. If John is a bigoted asshole, he is a taxing paying bigoted asshole. Don't want to tell anyone what to do but I got invited to a Gay Marriage back in the 90's. I was against it too, still am. I went to the ceremony though. I figure if two people think they love each other and want to spend their lives together, who the f am I? And as far as the moral dilema, I figure God can decide how to judge them later... I was good friends with the guy and explained it to him just like that, he knew I didn't agree with his lifestyle, but realized that I too am a sinner and a Christian like him, and he didn't judge my sins... Yup. Well, I love my niece, play golf with her, watched her graduate from the Naval Academy, cheered when she became a Naval Aviator, and have had her and her 'spouse' for dinner several times. But, I won't participate in a 'marriage' between gays. Just don't believe in it. Call it something else, and I might go. Maybe - 'unionage', 'conjugage', 'amalgation', or make up another word. I guess I'm just a 'bigoted asshole', along with being, according to H&K, a racist asshole. "Participate"? You mean, attend the ceremony? No one is asking you to marry a gay. You're a small-minded, bigoted, racist asshole. He may be a bit bigoted. We all are. But what makes him a small minded, racist asshole? What makes him small minded is his constant far right wing bull**** and his stance that everything right is good and everything left is bad. What makes him a racist is his racism. He's made disparaging remarks here about Mexicans in his neighborhood, he's repeated Mexican jokes here as well. If the Mexicans on the corner trashed their yard, and I say, "The Mexicans on the corner trashed their yard," is that 'racist'? If so, then I'm guilty as charged, 'cause they trashed their f'ing yard! But, they have cleaned it up in the past year. So, that's a good thing. Cite the 'Mexican jokes', if you please! Yeah, it is racist. Why would you say "the Mexicans on the corner."? Why not just say "the people on the corner"? Because Mexicans have been moving into some of the houses in the neighborhood in numbers far exceeding the capacity of the house, living in extremely unsanitary conditions, and making the neighborhood look like crap with the trash in the yards and the cars parked in the yards. Actually, this was a problem throughout the county, and finally the county decided to take some action - based on zoning and health regulations. Things are looking up now because the job market has caused many of them to leave the area. Some, like the ones on the corner, have even cleaned up their yard. What does their being "Mexican" have to do with it? The same sort of ugly comments you've made here about blacks and Mexicans ignorant Americans like you have made about just about every ethnic group that came here without much money. Does your making these comments make you feel "superior" to these Mexicans? I'll bet all of them work a lot harder than you ever have. You're the real deal...an ugly American. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/11/2012 6:02 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/11/12 8:37 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: Gosh, more examples of men and women. You folks need some examples of men and goats to *really* make your point! What's the matter with you? You seem to have some real hangups about human interpersonal relationships that in reality have nothing to do with you. Why are you so offended by gay marriage? It's not as if you are a religious guy, following the teachings of jesus, because you aren't. No one is pressuring you to "turn gay," (as if that is possible), and I doubt gays are harassing you at the shopping malls. Why can't you just go to the wedding and wish your relative well in her new life? Tempted by goats? |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/11/12 11:31 AM, thumper wrote:
On 12/11/2012 6:02 AM, ESAD wrote: On 12/11/12 8:37 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: Gosh, more examples of men and women. You folks need some examples of men and goats to *really* make your point! What's the matter with you? You seem to have some real hangups about human interpersonal relationships that in reality have nothing to do with you. Why are you so offended by gay marriage? It's not as if you are a religious guy, following the teachings of jesus, because you aren't. No one is pressuring you to "turn gay," (as if that is possible), and I doubt gays are harassing you at the shopping malls. Why can't you just go to the wedding and wish your relative well in her new life? Tempted by goats? Only the white goats, I am sure. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 11:18:07 AM UTC-5, ESAD wrote:
You're the real deal...an ugly American. Nah, John's not an ugly American. Real deal ugly Americans don't pay their taxes. You can't even put your name on the house you live in, deadbeat. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
In article ,
says... On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:47:10 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/11/12 8:34 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:44:33 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 12/10/2012 9:15 AM, ESAD wrote: On 12/10/12 9:02 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 20:07:55 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/9/2012 6:53 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/9/12 1:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 10:37:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:47:49 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:40:34 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message ... GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. ----------------- dang Ipad and the spelling corrections. You've referred several times to differences in the number of wives. Not a lot of instances in the bible of male prophets marrying other males, goats, or whatever. Ditto with Texas, Alabama, and other regions. I have a gay niece living with her girlfriend. They will probably invite me to a 'wedding' soon. I won't attend because I think the 'ceremony' is a sham. ----------------------------- It is supposed to be a free country. If you pay your taxes, do not force your views on someone else, and the partners are not children and are in agreement, then just let it be. Does not concern most of us, except maybe in your views, but their views are allowable also. I agree. They were both here for a 'Thanksgiving' dinner the week before Thanksgiving. No problem. But, I won't attend their wedding - if and when it occurs. You're just a bigoted asshole, Racist John. If not believing in 'Gay Marriage' makes me a bigoted asshole, then I reckon you're right, Kevin. There are many reasons why you are a bigoted asshole. If John is a bigoted asshole, he is a taxing paying bigoted asshole. Don't want to tell anyone what to do but I got invited to a Gay Marriage back in the 90's. I was against it too, still am. I went to the ceremony though. I figure if two people think they love each other and want to spend their lives together, who the f am I? And as far as the moral dilema, I figure God can decide how to judge them later... I was good friends with the guy and explained it to him just like that, he knew I didn't agree with his lifestyle, but realized that I too am a sinner and a Christian like him, and he didn't judge my sins... Yup. Well, I love my niece, play golf with her, watched her graduate from the Naval Academy, cheered when she became a Naval Aviator, and have had her and her 'spouse' for dinner several times. But, I won't participate in a 'marriage' between gays. Just don't believe in it. Call it something else, and I might go. Maybe - 'unionage', 'conjugage', 'amalgation', or make up another word. I guess I'm just a 'bigoted asshole', along with being, according to H&K, a racist asshole. "Participate"? You mean, attend the ceremony? No one is asking you to marry a gay. You're a small-minded, bigoted, racist asshole. He may be a bit bigoted. We all are. But what makes him a small minded, racist asshole? What makes him small minded is his constant far right wing bull**** and his stance that everything right is good and everything left is bad. What makes him a racist is his racism. He's made disparaging remarks here about Mexicans in his neighborhood, he's repeated Mexican jokes here as well. If the Mexicans on the corner trashed their yard, and I say, "The Mexicans on the corner trashed their yard," is that 'racist'? If so, then I'm guilty as charged, 'cause they trashed their f'ing yard! But, they have cleaned it up in the past year. So, that's a good thing. Cite the 'Mexican jokes', if you please! Yeah, it is racist. Why would you say "the Mexicans on the corner."? Why not just say "the people on the corner"? Because Mexicans have been moving into some of the houses in the neighborhood in numbers far exceeding the capacity of the house, living in extremely unsanitary conditions, and making the neighborhood look like crap with the trash in the yards and the cars parked in the yards. Actually, this was a problem throughout the county, and finally the county decided to take some action - based on zoning and health regulations. Things are looking up now because the job market has caused many of them to leave the area. Some, like the ones on the corner, have even cleaned up their yard. Only "Mexicans" trash houses, eh Racist John? |
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