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Bob Costas speaks the truth
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On 12/9/2012 6:53 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/9/12 1:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 10:37:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:47:49 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:40:34 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message ... GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. ----------------- dang Ipad and the spelling corrections. You've referred several times to differences in the number of wives. Not a lot of instances in the bible of male prophets marrying other males, goats, or whatever. Ditto with Texas, Alabama, and other regions. I have a gay niece living with her girlfriend. They will probably invite me to a 'wedding' soon. I won't attend because I think the 'ceremony' is a sham. ----------------------------- It is supposed to be a free country. If you pay your taxes, do not force your views on someone else, and the partners are not children and are in agreement, then just let it be. Does not concern most of us, except maybe in your views, but their views are allowable also. I agree. They were both here for a 'Thanksgiving' dinner the week before Thanksgiving. No problem. But, I won't attend their wedding - if and when it occurs. You're just a bigoted asshole, Racist John. If not believing in 'Gay Marriage' makes me a bigoted asshole, then I reckon you're right, Kevin. There are many reasons why you are a bigoted asshole. If John is a bigoted asshole, he is a taxing paying bigoted asshole. Don't want to tell anyone what to do but I got invited to a Gay Marriage back in the 90's. I was against it too, still am. I went to the ceremony though. I figure if two people think they love each other and want to spend their lives together, who the f am I? And as far as the moral dilema, I figure God can decide how to judge them later... I was good friends with the guy and explained it to him just like that, he knew I didn't agree with his lifestyle, but realized that I too am a sinner and a Christian like him, and he didn't judge my sins... Where is it written that marriage is between a man and a woman? |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
In article , says...
On 12/9/2012 9:42 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/9/12 8:51 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/9/2012 8:19 PM, thumper wrote: On 12/8/2012 1:16 PM, JustWait wrote: Yes there are... they go from the door of one town hall, town to town, looking for Christians to attack... In the long history of religious persecution, both against and from Christians, these trivially remedied lawsuits against municipalities or school districts for illegally favoring one particular religion are insignificant. Keep playing the poor pitiful victim however, you're good at it, it's funny, and you look ridiculous. Your judgement doesn't really hold water, coming from a bigot. And really, your argument is dishonest anyway, as it just brings us back to the first question you dodged... What religion is A Charlie Brown Christmas, anyway??? You are just another hater, obviously raised wrong. A Charlie Brown Christmas celebrates Christmas, of course, aka a Christian holiday. What religion is that??? Are you really that ****ing stupid??? |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 20:07:55 -0500, JustWait wrote:
On 12/9/2012 6:53 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/9/12 1:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 10:37:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:47:49 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:40:34 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message ... GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. ----------------- dang Ipad and the spelling corrections. You've referred several times to differences in the number of wives. Not a lot of instances in the bible of male prophets marrying other males, goats, or whatever. Ditto with Texas, Alabama, and other regions. I have a gay niece living with her girlfriend. They will probably invite me to a 'wedding' soon. I won't attend because I think the 'ceremony' is a sham. ----------------------------- It is supposed to be a free country. If you pay your taxes, do not force your views on someone else, and the partners are not children and are in agreement, then just let it be. Does not concern most of us, except maybe in your views, but their views are allowable also. I agree. They were both here for a 'Thanksgiving' dinner the week before Thanksgiving. No problem. But, I won't attend their wedding - if and when it occurs. You're just a bigoted asshole, Racist John. If not believing in 'Gay Marriage' makes me a bigoted asshole, then I reckon you're right, Kevin. There are many reasons why you are a bigoted asshole. If John is a bigoted asshole, he is a taxing paying bigoted asshole. Don't want to tell anyone what to do but I got invited to a Gay Marriage back in the 90's. I was against it too, still am. I went to the ceremony though. I figure if two people think they love each other and want to spend their lives together, who the f am I? And as far as the moral dilema, I figure God can decide how to judge them later... I was good friends with the guy and explained it to him just like that, he knew I didn't agree with his lifestyle, but realized that I too am a sinner and a Christian like him, and he didn't judge my sins... Yup. Well, I love my niece, play golf with her, watched her graduate from the Naval Academy, cheered when she became a Naval Aviator, and have had her and her 'spouse' for dinner several times. But, I won't participate in a 'marriage' between gays. Just don't believe in it. Call it something else, and I might go. Maybe - 'unionage', 'conjugage', 'amalgation', or make up another word. I guess I'm just a 'bigoted asshole', along with being, according to H&K, a racist asshole. Reminds me of a story: A man walked into a bar right after the last election and yelled, "ALL LIBERALS ARE ASSHOLES!" A little guy at the end of the bar stood up and said, "I resent that!" The folks at the bar gave him a funny look, and he said, "Well, I'm an asshole." |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/10/12 9:02 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 20:07:55 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/9/2012 6:53 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/9/12 1:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 10:37:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:47:49 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:40:34 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message ... GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. ----------------- dang Ipad and the spelling corrections. You've referred several times to differences in the number of wives. Not a lot of instances in the bible of male prophets marrying other males, goats, or whatever. Ditto with Texas, Alabama, and other regions. I have a gay niece living with her girlfriend. They will probably invite me to a 'wedding' soon. I won't attend because I think the 'ceremony' is a sham. ----------------------------- It is supposed to be a free country. If you pay your taxes, do not force your views on someone else, and the partners are not children and are in agreement, then just let it be. Does not concern most of us, except maybe in your views, but their views are allowable also. I agree. They were both here for a 'Thanksgiving' dinner the week before Thanksgiving. No problem. But, I won't attend their wedding - if and when it occurs. You're just a bigoted asshole, Racist John. If not believing in 'Gay Marriage' makes me a bigoted asshole, then I reckon you're right, Kevin. There are many reasons why you are a bigoted asshole. If John is a bigoted asshole, he is a taxing paying bigoted asshole. Don't want to tell anyone what to do but I got invited to a Gay Marriage back in the 90's. I was against it too, still am. I went to the ceremony though. I figure if two people think they love each other and want to spend their lives together, who the f am I? And as far as the moral dilema, I figure God can decide how to judge them later... I was good friends with the guy and explained it to him just like that, he knew I didn't agree with his lifestyle, but realized that I too am a sinner and a Christian like him, and he didn't judge my sins... Yup. Well, I love my niece, play golf with her, watched her graduate from the Naval Academy, cheered when she became a Naval Aviator, and have had her and her 'spouse' for dinner several times. But, I won't participate in a 'marriage' between gays. Just don't believe in it. Call it something else, and I might go. Maybe - 'unionage', 'conjugage', 'amalgation', or make up another word. I guess I'm just a 'bigoted asshole', along with being, according to H&K, a racist asshole. "Participate"? You mean, attend the ceremony? No one is asking you to marry a gay. You're a small-minded, bigoted, racist asshole. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
In article ,
says... On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 20:07:55 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/9/2012 6:53 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/9/12 1:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 10:37:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:47:49 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:40:34 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message ... GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. ----------------- dang Ipad and the spelling corrections. You've referred several times to differences in the number of wives. Not a lot of instances in the bible of male prophets marrying other males, goats, or whatever. Ditto with Texas, Alabama, and other regions. I have a gay niece living with her girlfriend. They will probably invite me to a 'wedding' soon. I won't attend because I think the 'ceremony' is a sham. ----------------------------- It is supposed to be a free country. If you pay your taxes, do not force your views on someone else, and the partners are not children and are in agreement, then just let it be. Does not concern most of us, except maybe in your views, but their views are allowable also. I agree. They were both here for a 'Thanksgiving' dinner the week before Thanksgiving. No problem. But, I won't attend their wedding - if and when it occurs. You're just a bigoted asshole, Racist John. If not believing in 'Gay Marriage' makes me a bigoted asshole, then I reckon you're right, Kevin. There are many reasons why you are a bigoted asshole. If John is a bigoted asshole, he is a taxing paying bigoted asshole. Don't want to tell anyone what to do but I got invited to a Gay Marriage back in the 90's. I was against it too, still am. I went to the ceremony though. I figure if two people think they love each other and want to spend their lives together, who the f am I? And as far as the moral dilema, I figure God can decide how to judge them later... I was good friends with the guy and explained it to him just like that, he knew I didn't agree with his lifestyle, but realized that I too am a sinner and a Christian like him, and he didn't judge my sins... Yup. Well, I love my niece, play golf with her, watched her graduate from the Naval Academy, cheered when she became a Naval Aviator, and have had her and her 'spouse' for dinner several times. But, I won't participate in a 'marriage' between gays. Just don't believe in it. Call it something else, and I might go. Maybe - 'unionage', 'conjugage', 'amalgation', or make up another word. I guess I'm just a 'bigoted asshole', along with being, according to H&K, a racist asshole. Reminds me of a story: A man walked into a bar right after the last election and yelled, "ALL LIBERALS ARE ASSHOLES!" A little guy at the end of the bar stood up and said, "I resent that!" The folks at the bar gave him a funny look, and he said, "Well, I'm an asshole." So, Racist John, where is it stated that "marriage" is between a man and a woman only? Merriam-Webster sure isn't on your side: Definition of MARRIAGE 1 a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage same-sex marriage Neither is dictionary.com mar·riage [mar-ij] Show IPA noun 1. a. the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc. Antonyms: separation. b. a similar institution involving partners of the same gender: gay marriage. Antonyms: separation. Huh, neither does MacMillan [COUNTABLE/UNCOUNTABLE] the relationship between two people who are husband and wife But, I guess FOX knows more, right.... |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
In article ,
says... On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 20:07:55 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/9/2012 6:53 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/9/12 1:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 10:37:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:47:49 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:40:34 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message ... GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. ----------------- dang Ipad and the spelling corrections. You've referred several times to differences in the number of wives. Not a lot of instances in the bible of male prophets marrying other males, goats, or whatever. Ditto with Texas, Alabama, and other regions. I have a gay niece living with her girlfriend. They will probably invite me to a 'wedding' soon. I won't attend because I think the 'ceremony' is a sham. ----------------------------- It is supposed to be a free country. If you pay your taxes, do not force your views on someone else, and the partners are not children and are in agreement, then just let it be. Does not concern most of us, except maybe in your views, but their views are allowable also. I agree. They were both here for a 'Thanksgiving' dinner the week before Thanksgiving. No problem. But, I won't attend their wedding - if and when it occurs. You're just a bigoted asshole, Racist John. If not believing in 'Gay Marriage' makes me a bigoted asshole, then I reckon you're right, Kevin. There are many reasons why you are a bigoted asshole. If John is a bigoted asshole, he is a taxing paying bigoted asshole. Don't want to tell anyone what to do but I got invited to a Gay Marriage back in the 90's. I was against it too, still am. I went to the ceremony though. I figure if two people think they love each other and want to spend their lives together, who the f am I? And as far as the moral dilema, I figure God can decide how to judge them later... I was good friends with the guy and explained it to him just like that, he knew I didn't agree with his lifestyle, but realized that I too am a sinner and a Christian like him, and he didn't judge my sins... Yup. Well, I love my niece, play golf with her, watched her graduate from the Naval Academy, cheered when she became a Naval Aviator, and have had her and her 'spouse' for dinner several times. But, I won't participate in a 'marriage' between gays. Just don't believe in it. Call it something else, and I might go. Maybe - 'unionage', 'conjugage', 'amalgation', or make up another word. I guess I'm just a 'bigoted asshole', along with being, according to H&K, a racist asshole. Reminds me of a story: A man walked into a bar right after the last election and yelled, "ALL LIBERALS ARE ASSHOLES!" A little guy at the end of the bar stood up and said, "I resent that!" The folks at the bar gave him a funny look, and he said, "Well, I'm an asshole." There's more of that great Christian tolerence from Racist John..... |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:53:07 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 12/9/2012 6:53 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/9/12 1:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 10:37:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:47:49 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:40:34 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message ... GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. ----------------- dang Ipad and the spelling corrections. You've referred several times to differences in the number of wives. Not a lot of instances in the bible of male prophets marrying other males, goats, or whatever. Ditto with Texas, Alabama, and other regions. I have a gay niece living with her girlfriend. They will probably invite me to a 'wedding' soon. I won't attend because I think the 'ceremony' is a sham. ----------------------------- It is supposed to be a free country. If you pay your taxes, do not force your views on someone else, and the partners are not children and are in agreement, then just let it be. Does not concern most of us, except maybe in your views, but their views are allowable also. I agree. They were both here for a 'Thanksgiving' dinner the week before Thanksgiving. No problem. But, I won't attend their wedding - if and when it occurs. You're just a bigoted asshole, Racist John. If not believing in 'Gay Marriage' makes me a bigoted asshole, then I reckon you're right, Kevin. There are many reasons why you are a bigoted asshole. If John is a bigoted asshole, he is a taxing paying bigoted asshole. Don't want to tell anyone what to do but I got invited to a Gay Marriage back in the 90's. I was against it too, still am. I went to the ceremony though. I figure if two people think they love each other and want to spend their lives together, who the f am I? And as far as the moral dilema, I figure God can decide how to judge them later... I was good friends with the guy and explained it to him just like that, he knew I didn't agree with his lifestyle, but realized that I too am a sinner and a Christian like him, and he didn't judge my sins... Where is it written that marriage is between a man and a woman? Dictionary.com mar·riage [mar-ij] Show IPA noun 1.a.the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc. Antonyms: separation. And, of course, you can probably find secondary and tertiary meanings that include gays, dogs, goats, etc. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:15:56 -0500, ESAD wrote:
On 12/10/12 9:02 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 20:07:55 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/9/2012 6:53 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/9/12 1:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 10:37:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:47:49 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:40:34 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message ... GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. ----------------- dang Ipad and the spelling corrections. You've referred several times to differences in the number of wives. Not a lot of instances in the bible of male prophets marrying other males, goats, or whatever. Ditto with Texas, Alabama, and other regions. I have a gay niece living with her girlfriend. They will probably invite me to a 'wedding' soon. I won't attend because I think the 'ceremony' is a sham. ----------------------------- It is supposed to be a free country. If you pay your taxes, do not force your views on someone else, and the partners are not children and are in agreement, then just let it be. Does not concern most of us, except maybe in your views, but their views are allowable also. I agree. They were both here for a 'Thanksgiving' dinner the week before Thanksgiving. No problem. But, I won't attend their wedding - if and when it occurs. You're just a bigoted asshole, Racist John. If not believing in 'Gay Marriage' makes me a bigoted asshole, then I reckon you're right, Kevin. There are many reasons why you are a bigoted asshole. If John is a bigoted asshole, he is a taxing paying bigoted asshole. Don't want to tell anyone what to do but I got invited to a Gay Marriage back in the 90's. I was against it too, still am. I went to the ceremony though. I figure if two people think they love each other and want to spend their lives together, who the f am I? And as far as the moral dilema, I figure God can decide how to judge them later... I was good friends with the guy and explained it to him just like that, he knew I didn't agree with his lifestyle, but realized that I too am a sinner and a Christian like him, and he didn't judge my sins... Yup. Well, I love my niece, play golf with her, watched her graduate from the Naval Academy, cheered when she became a Naval Aviator, and have had her and her 'spouse' for dinner several times. But, I won't participate in a 'marriage' between gays. Just don't believe in it. Call it something else, and I might go. Maybe - 'unionage', 'conjugage', 'amalgation', or make up another word. I guess I'm just a 'bigoted asshole', along with being, according to H&K, a racist asshole. "Participate"? You mean, attend the ceremony? No one is asking you to marry a gay. You're a small-minded, bigoted, racist asshole. Yup. And I don't need to call you any names, 'cause everyone already knows. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/10/2012 9:15 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/10/12 9:02 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 20:07:55 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 12/9/2012 6:53 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/9/12 1:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 10:37:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:47:49 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:40:34 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message ... GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. ----------------- dang Ipad and the spelling corrections. You've referred several times to differences in the number of wives. Not a lot of instances in the bible of male prophets marrying other males, goats, or whatever. Ditto with Texas, Alabama, and other regions. I have a gay niece living with her girlfriend. They will probably invite me to a 'wedding' soon. I won't attend because I think the 'ceremony' is a sham. ----------------------------- It is supposed to be a free country. If you pay your taxes, do not force your views on someone else, and the partners are not children and are in agreement, then just let it be. Does not concern most of us, except maybe in your views, but their views are allowable also. I agree. They were both here for a 'Thanksgiving' dinner the week before Thanksgiving. No problem. But, I won't attend their wedding - if and when it occurs. You're just a bigoted asshole, Racist John. If not believing in 'Gay Marriage' makes me a bigoted asshole, then I reckon you're right, Kevin. There are many reasons why you are a bigoted asshole. If John is a bigoted asshole, he is a taxing paying bigoted asshole. Don't want to tell anyone what to do but I got invited to a Gay Marriage back in the 90's. I was against it too, still am. I went to the ceremony though. I figure if two people think they love each other and want to spend their lives together, who the f am I? And as far as the moral dilema, I figure God can decide how to judge them later... I was good friends with the guy and explained it to him just like that, he knew I didn't agree with his lifestyle, but realized that I too am a sinner and a Christian like him, and he didn't judge my sins... Yup. Well, I love my niece, play golf with her, watched her graduate from the Naval Academy, cheered when she became a Naval Aviator, and have had her and her 'spouse' for dinner several times. But, I won't participate in a 'marriage' between gays. Just don't believe in it. Call it something else, and I might go. Maybe - 'unionage', 'conjugage', 'amalgation', or make up another word. I guess I'm just a 'bigoted asshole', along with being, according to H&K, a racist asshole. "Participate"? You mean, attend the ceremony? No one is asking you to marry a gay. You're a small-minded, bigoted, racist asshole. He may be a bit bigoted. We all are. But what makes him a small minded, racist asshole? |
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