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jps December 3rd 12 07:47 AM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=B1ijkccD9_8

Califbill December 4th 12 07:14 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
jps wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=B1ijkccD9_8


How about a speech about the thug culture? The guy kills the girl friend,
who is the mother of his 3 year old daughter. Guns may make it easier, but
that is not the reason for all the violence. Lack of values is the real
problem.

GuzzisRule December 4th 12 10:11 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 13:14:21 -0600, Califbill wrote:

jps wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=B1ijkccD9_8


How about a speech about the thug culture? The guy kills the girl friend,
who is the mother of his 3 year old daughter. Guns may make it easier, but
that is not the reason for all the violence. Lack of values is the real
problem.


Values are not high on the list of most liberal's 'values'.

JustWait[_2_] December 4th 12 10:15 PM

Bob Costas trying to fit in...
 
On 12/4/2012 2:14 PM, Califbill wrote:
jps wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=B1ijkccD9_8


How about a speech about the thug culture? The guy kills the girl friend,
who is the mother of his 3 year old daughter. Guns may make it easier, but
that is not the reason for all the violence. Lack of values is the real
problem.



The guy (costas) was just looking for brownie points...

ESAD December 4th 12 11:23 PM

Bob Costas trying to fit in...
 
On 12/4/12 5:15 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/4/2012 2:14 PM, Califbill wrote:
jps wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=B1ijkccD9_8


How about a speech about the thug culture? The guy kills the girl
friend,
who is the mother of his 3 year old daughter. Guns may make it
easier, but
that is not the reason for all the violence. Lack of values is the real
problem.



The guy (costas) was just looking for brownie points...


From who, moron? Costas is at the top of his game. From wiki:

Costas has won eight National Sportcaster of the Year awards from the
National Sportscasters and Sportswriters Association, and was inducted
into that organization's Hall of Fame in 2012. He has also won four
Sportscaster of the Year awards from the American Sportscasters
Association, and nearly twenty Sports Emmy Awards for outstanding sports
announcing.

In 1999, Costas was a recipient of the Curt Gowdy Media Award from the
Basketball Hall of Fame, which is awarded to members of the electronic
and print media for outstanding contributions to the sport.

In 2000, he won a TV Guide Award for Favorite Sportscaster.
He was selected as the Dick Schaap Award for Outstanding Journalism
recipient in 2004.

In 2006, Costas was also awarded an honorary doctorate in humane letters
from Loyola College in Maryland.

In 2012, he was awarded the Walter Cronkite Award for Excellence in
Journalism.

He is an honorary trustee of Webster University, a private college
located in Webster Groves, Missouri. He is a frequent supporter of the
school, to include numerous radio commercials.

Costas is also an honorary board member of the Multiple Myeloma Research
Foundation.




[email protected] December 5th 12 12:58 AM

Bob Costas trying to fit in...
 
On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:23:59 PM UTC-5, ESAD wrote:


Costas is at the top of his game. From wiki:

Costas has won eight National Sportcaster of the Year awards...


"game" was a very important word. Costas is a SPORTS announcer.

Just like the hollywood liberal airheads, he can't tell **** from shineola when it comes to the real world.

Wayne.B December 5th 12 01:16 AM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:11:55 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

Values are not high on the list of most liberal's 'values'.


===

That's a little wide of the mark in my opinion and I'm disappointed to
hear you say it. I've known many liberal minded people with values
as good as any you could hope to find, others not so much. Same with
conservatives. My point is that values and political leaning don't
correlate very well in my experience except maybe in the eyes of the
ultra conservative media. Differences of opinion should not be
mistaken for lack of values.


BAR[_2_] December 5th 12 12:40 PM

Bob Costas trying to fit in...
 
In article ,
says...

On 12/4/12 5:15 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/4/2012 2:14 PM, Califbill wrote:
jps wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=B1ijkccD9_8

How about a speech about the thug culture? The guy kills the girl
friend,
who is the mother of his 3 year old daughter. Guns may make it
easier, but
that is not the reason for all the violence. Lack of values is the real
problem.



The guy (costas) was just looking for brownie points...


From who, moron? Costas is at the top of his game. From wiki:

Costas has won eight National Sportcaster of the Year awards from the
National Sportscasters and Sportswriters Association, and was inducted
into that organization's Hall of Fame in 2012. He has also won four
Sportscaster of the Year awards from the American Sportscasters
Association, and nearly twenty Sports Emmy Awards for outstanding sports
announcing.

In 1999, Costas was a recipient of the Curt Gowdy Media Award from the
Basketball Hall of Fame, which is awarded to members of the electronic
and print media for outstanding contributions to the sport.

In 2000, he won a TV Guide Award for Favorite Sportscaster.
He was selected as the Dick Schaap Award for Outstanding Journalism
recipient in 2004.

In 2006, Costas was also awarded an honorary doctorate in humane letters
from Loyola College in Maryland.

In 2012, he was awarded the Walter Cronkite Award for Excellence in
Journalism.

He is an honorary trustee of Webster University, a private college
located in Webster Groves, Missouri. He is a frequent supporter of the
school, to include numerous radio commercials.

Costas is also an honorary board member of the Multiple Myeloma Research
Foundation.


Who wrote the wiki article about Costas? Was it himself? Was it his
mother? Was it his publicist?

Bob Costas is an arrogant little ****.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 5th 12 01:37 PM

Bob Costas trying to fit in...
 
In article , says...

On 12/4/2012 2:14 PM, Califbill wrote:
jps wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=B1ijkccD9_8

How about a speech about the thug culture? The guy kills the girl friend,
who is the mother of his 3 year old daughter. Guns may make it easier, but
that is not the reason for all the violence. Lack of values is the real
problem.



The guy (costas) was just looking for brownie points...


Because he was remorseful that a great athlete killed himself and his
girlfriend??? Insanity!!

iBoaterer[_2_] December 5th 12 01:38 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:11:55 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

Values are not high on the list of most liberal's 'values'.


===

That's a little wide of the mark in my opinion and I'm disappointed to
hear you say it. I've known many liberal minded people with values
as good as any you could hope to find, others not so much. Same with
conservatives. My point is that values and political leaning don't
correlate very well in my experience except maybe in the eyes of the
ultra conservative media. Differences of opinion should not be
mistaken for lack of values.


That narrow minded crap comes out of him all of the time.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 5th 12 01:39 PM

Bob Costas trying to fit in...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:23:59 PM UTC-5, ESAD wrote:


Costas is at the top of his game. From wiki:

Costas has won eight National Sportcaster of the Year awards...


"game" was a very important word. Costas is a SPORTS announcer.

Just like the hollywood liberal airheads, he can't tell **** from shineola when it comes to the real world.


But Rush does, eh?

[email protected] December 5th 12 01:46 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:16:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:11:55 -0500, GuzzisRule

wrote:



Values are not high on the list of most liberal's 'values'.




===



That's a little wide of the mark in my opinion and I'm disappointed to
hear you say it. I've known many liberal minded people with values
as good as any you could hope to find, others not so much. Same with
conservatives. My point is that values and political leaning don't
correlate very well in my experience except maybe in the eyes of the
ultra conservative media. Differences of opinion should not be
mistaken for lack of values.


I'm a bit dissapointed in you, Wayne. It's not just the "ultra conservative" media's eye that hold that view, it's rampant in the ultra liberal view as well. And is alive and well right here in this NG.

[email protected] December 5th 12 01:47 PM

Bob Costas trying to fit in...
 
On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:39:37 AM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...



On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:23:59 PM UTC-5, ESAD wrote:






Costas is at the top of his game. From wiki:




Costas has won eight National Sportcaster of the Year awards...




"game" was a very important word. Costas is a SPORTS announcer.




Just like the hollywood liberal airheads, he can't tell **** from shineola when it comes to the real world.




But Rush does, eh?


I don't know. *You* listen to him, not me.

GuzzisRule December 5th 12 04:03 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 20:16:26 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:11:55 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

Values are not high on the list of most liberal's 'values'.


===

That's a little wide of the mark in my opinion and I'm disappointed to
hear you say it. I've known many liberal minded people with values
as good as any you could hope to find, others not so much. Same with
conservatives. My point is that values and political leaning don't
correlate very well in my experience except maybe in the eyes of the
ultra conservative media. Differences of opinion should not be
mistaken for lack of values.


It's a shame that some of those value oriented liberals you know aren't in politics or on judicial
benches (whoops, those are the same thing for liberals).

I suppose the big difference lies in how we define 'values'. I would imagine that my definition
would be much different than that of Krause, jps, Kevin, et al.

This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the
drift.

http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy

Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last.

ESAD December 5th 12 04:08 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
On 12/5/12 11:03 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:

I suppose the big difference lies in how we define 'values'. I would imagine that my definition
would be much different than that of Krause, jps, Kevin, et al.


How did those racist positions of you and your party work out for you in
the last election?


iBoaterer[_2_] December 5th 12 04:38 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
In article ,
says...

On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:16:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:11:55 -0500, GuzzisRule

wrote:



Values are not high on the list of most liberal's 'values'.




===



That's a little wide of the mark in my opinion and I'm disappointed to
hear you say it. I've known many liberal minded people with values
as good as any you could hope to find, others not so much. Same with
conservatives. My point is that values and political leaning don't
correlate very well in my experience except maybe in the eyes of the
ultra conservative media. Differences of opinion should not be
mistaken for lack of values.


I'm a bit dissapointed in you, Wayne. It's not just the "ultra conservative" media's eye that hold that view, it's rampant in the ultra liberal view as well. And is alive and well right here in this NG.


Cite?

iBoaterer[_2_] December 5th 12 04:39 PM

Bob Costas trying to fit in...
 
In article ,
says...

On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:39:37 AM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...



On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:23:59 PM UTC-5, ESAD wrote:






Costas is at the top of his game. From wiki:




Costas has won eight National Sportcaster of the Year awards...




"game" was a very important word. Costas is a SPORTS announcer.




Just like the hollywood liberal airheads, he can't tell **** from shineola when it comes to the real world.




But Rush does, eh?


I don't know. *You* listen to him, not me.


That's odd, you sure use a lot of his very talking points.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 5th 12 04:39 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 20:16:26 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:11:55 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

Values are not high on the list of most liberal's 'values'.


===

That's a little wide of the mark in my opinion and I'm disappointed to
hear you say it. I've known many liberal minded people with values
as good as any you could hope to find, others not so much. Same with
conservatives. My point is that values and political leaning don't
correlate very well in my experience except maybe in the eyes of the
ultra conservative media. Differences of opinion should not be
mistaken for lack of values.


It's a shame that some of those value oriented liberals you know aren't in politics or on judicial
benches (whoops, those are the same thing for liberals).

I suppose the big difference lies in how we define 'values'. I would imagine that my definition
would be much different than that of Krause, jps, Kevin, et al.

This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the
drift.

http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy

Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last.


A human couldn't possibly be more narrow minded than you.

ESAD December 5th 12 06:17 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
On 12/5/12 11:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:16:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:11:55 -0500, GuzzisRule

wrote:



Values are not high on the list of most liberal's 'values'.



===



That's a little wide of the mark in my opinion and I'm disappointed to
hear you say it. I've known many liberal minded people with values
as good as any you could hope to find, others not so much. Same with
conservatives. My point is that values and political leaning don't
correlate very well in my experience except maybe in the eyes of the
ultra conservative media. Differences of opinion should not be
mistaken for lack of values.


I'm a bit dissapointed in you, Wayne. It's not just the "ultra conservative" media's eye that hold that view, it's rampant in the ultra liberal view as well. And is alive and well right here in this NG.


Cite?



I'm not aware of any "ultra liberals" in this newsgroup, now or at any
time in the past.

[email protected] December 5th 12 06:29 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 1:17:02 PM UTC-5, ESAD wrote:

In article ,


says...


On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:16:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:


On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:11:55 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:



Values are not high on the list of most liberal's 'values'.


===


That's a little wide of the mark in my opinion and I'm disappointed to
hear you say it. I've known many liberal minded people with values
as good as any you could hope to find, others not so much. Same with
conservatives. My point is that values and political leaning don't
correlate very well in my experience except maybe in the eyes of the
ultra conservative media. Differences of opinion should not be
mistaken for lack of values.


I'm a bit dissapointed in you, Wayne. It's not just the "ultra conservative" media's eye that hold that view, it's rampant in the ultra liberal view as well. And is alive and well right here in this NG.



I'm not aware of any "ultra liberals" in this newsgroup, now or at any
time in the past.



Not very self aware, are you? Nothing seems left when you're looking from the far left.

But you may be right... many mainstream liberals also seem to hold that view.

Have you paid your taxes and debts, deadbeat?


ESAD December 5th 12 06:38 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
On 12/5/12 1:29 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 1:17:02 PM UTC-5, ESAD wrote:

In article ,


says...

On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:16:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:


On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:11:55 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:



Values are not high on the list of most liberal's 'values'.


===


That's a little wide of the mark in my opinion and I'm disappointed to
hear you say it. I've known many liberal minded people with values
as good as any you could hope to find, others not so much. Same with
conservatives. My point is that values and political leaning don't
correlate very well in my experience except maybe in the eyes of the
ultra conservative media. Differences of opinion should not be
mistaken for lack of values.


I'm a bit dissapointed in you, Wayne. It's not just the "ultra conservative" media's eye that hold that view, it's rampant in the ultra liberal view as well. And is alive and well right here in this NG.



I'm not aware of any "ultra liberals" in this newsgroup, now or at any
time in the past.



Not very self aware, are you? Nothing seems left when you're looking from the far left.


Everything seems to be far left when you are over on the far right,
where you and your fellow aging white racist south carolinians live, eh?
Perhaps you can join one of the many wingnut secessionist movements.









iBoaterer[_2_] December 5th 12 06:54 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
In article ,
says...

On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 1:17:02 PM UTC-5, ESAD wrote:

In article ,


says...

On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:16:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:


On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:11:55 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:



Values are not high on the list of most liberal's 'values'.


===


That's a little wide of the mark in my opinion and I'm disappointed to
hear you say it. I've known many liberal minded people with values
as good as any you could hope to find, others not so much. Same with
conservatives. My point is that values and political leaning don't
correlate very well in my experience except maybe in the eyes of the
ultra conservative media. Differences of opinion should not be
mistaken for lack of values.


I'm a bit dissapointed in you, Wayne. It's not just the "ultra conservative" media's eye that hold that view, it's rampant in the ultra liberal view as well. And is alive and well right here in this NG.



I'm not aware of any "ultra liberals" in this newsgroup, now or at any
time in the past.



Not very self aware, are you? Nothing seems left when you're looking from the far left.


This is true!

But you may be right... many mainstream liberals also seem to hold that view.


What you think of as "mainstream" maybe, because you are so far right.

Have you paid your taxes and debts, deadbeat?


He never will. Once a deadbeat, always a deadbeat.


iBoaterer[_2_] December 5th 12 06:54 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
In article ,
says...

On 12/5/12 1:29 PM,
wrote:
On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 1:17:02 PM UTC-5, ESAD wrote:

In article ,

says...

On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:16:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:11:55 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:


Values are not high on the list of most liberal's 'values'.

===

That's a little wide of the mark in my opinion and I'm disappointed to
hear you say it. I've known many liberal minded people with values
as good as any you could hope to find, others not so much. Same with
conservatives. My point is that values and political leaning don't
correlate very well in my experience except maybe in the eyes of the
ultra conservative media. Differences of opinion should not be
mistaken for lack of values.

I'm a bit dissapointed in you, Wayne. It's not just the "ultra conservative" media's eye that hold that view, it's rampant in the ultra liberal view as well. And is alive and well right here in this NG.


I'm not aware of any "ultra liberals" in this newsgroup, now or at any
time in the past.



Not very self aware, are you? Nothing seems left when you're looking from the far left.


Everything seems to be far left when you are over on the far right,
where you and your fellow aging white racist south carolinians live, eh?
Perhaps you can join one of the many wingnut secessionist movements.


You didn't answer his questions about your outstanding tax debts,
deadbeat.

Meyer[_2_] December 5th 12 06:58 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
On 12/5/2012 1:17 PM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/5/12 11:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:16:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:11:55 -0500, GuzzisRule

wrote:



Values are not high on the list of most liberal's 'values'.



===



That's a little wide of the mark in my opinion and I'm disappointed to
hear you say it. I've known many liberal minded people with values
as good as any you could hope to find, others not so much. Same with
conservatives. My point is that values and political leaning don't
correlate very well in my experience except maybe in the eyes of the
ultra conservative media. Differences of opinion should not be
mistaken for lack of values.

I'm a bit dissapointed in you, Wayne. It's not just the "ultra
conservative" media's eye that hold that view, it's rampant in the
ultra liberal view as well. And is alive and well right here in this
NG.


Cite?



I'm not aware of any "ultra liberals" in this newsgroup, now or at any
time in the past.


Are you aware of any tax cheats,liars, or draft dodgers?

[email protected] December 5th 12 07:16 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 1:58:16 PM UTC-5, Meyer wrote:
On 12/5/2012 1:17 PM, ESAD wrote:

I'm not aware of any "ultra liberals" in this newsgroup, now or at any
time in the past.


Are you aware of any tax cheats,liars, or draft dodgers?


You left out imaginary lobsta boat captains. ~snerk~

iBoaterer[_2_] December 5th 12 07:44 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
In article om,
says...

On 12/5/2012 1:17 PM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/5/12 11:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:16:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:11:55 -0500, GuzzisRule

wrote:



Values are not high on the list of most liberal's 'values'.



===



That's a little wide of the mark in my opinion and I'm disappointed to
hear you say it. I've known many liberal minded people with values
as good as any you could hope to find, others not so much. Same with
conservatives. My point is that values and political leaning don't
correlate very well in my experience except maybe in the eyes of the
ultra conservative media. Differences of opinion should not be
mistaken for lack of values.

I'm a bit dissapointed in you, Wayne. It's not just the "ultra
conservative" media's eye that hold that view, it's rampant in the
ultra liberal view as well. And is alive and well right here in this
NG.

Cite?



I'm not aware of any "ultra liberals" in this newsgroup, now or at any
time in the past.


Are you aware of any tax cheats,liars, or draft dodgers?


I am! Harry Krause for one!

iBoaterer[_2_] December 5th 12 07:45 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
In article ,
says...

On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 1:58:16 PM UTC-5, Meyer wrote:
On 12/5/2012 1:17 PM, ESAD wrote:

I'm not aware of any "ultra liberals" in this newsgroup, now or at any
time in the past.


Are you aware of any tax cheats,liars, or draft dodgers?


You left out imaginary lobsta boat captains. ~snerk~


No, that one just simply disappeared! Now it's a twin diesel. You know,
the ones he used to whine were slow and smelly....

Wayne.B December 5th 12 08:55 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the
drift.

http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy

Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last.


====

Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and
probably you, share some confusion about the difference between
values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable
people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly,
it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others
and then accuse them of lacking "values".


BAR[_2_] December 6th 12 01:01 AM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
In article ,
says...

On 12/5/12 11:03 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:

I suppose the big difference lies in how we define 'values'. I would imagine that my definition
would be much different than that of Krause, jps, Kevin, et al.


How did those racist positions of you and your party work out for you in
the last election?


We are about to see what happens, here in the USA, what happens when the
equality of opportunity is substituted with equality of outcome. So far,
around the world it hasn't worked out well. You could always hold up
Cuba as an example and I respond that Cuba is in a time warp, they are
still in the 1950's with respect to infrastructure and services.

The Cubans don't need to view this page, they know all about it but, you
should view it and understand its contents.

http://gasengine.farmcollector.com/G...nding-Breaker-
Point-Ignition-Systems.aspx

BAR[_2_] December 6th 12 01:19 AM

Bob Costas trying to fit in...
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On 12/4/2012 2:14 PM, Califbill wrote:
jps wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=B1ijkccD9_8

How about a speech about the thug culture? The guy kills the girl friend,
who is the mother of his 3 year old daughter. Guns may make it easier, but
that is not the reason for all the violence. Lack of values is the real
problem.



The guy (costas) was just looking for brownie points...


Because he was remorseful that a great athlete killed himself and his
girlfriend??? Insanity!!


Because a man murdered the mother of his child and went and said good
bye to his boss before he took the cowards way out and blew his brains
all over the place.

Costas used the event to further his political agenda.

thumper December 6th 12 03:17 AM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
On 12/4/2012 5:16 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:11:55 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

Values are not high on the list of most liberal's 'values'.


===

That's a little wide of the mark in my opinion and I'm disappointed to
hear you say it. I've known many liberal minded people with values
as good as any you could hope to find, others not so much. Same with
conservatives. My point is that values and political leaning don't
correlate very well in my experience except maybe in the eyes of the
ultra conservative media. Differences of opinion should not be
mistaken for lack of values.


Well said. I'm tempted to expand on that but I'll refrain.

GuzzisRule December 6th 12 12:46 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the
drift.

http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy

Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last.


====

Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and
probably you, share some confusion about the difference between
values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable
people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly,
it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others
and then accuse them of lacking "values".


Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first
one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals,
especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose
your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read
that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments.


ESAD December 6th 12 12:55 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
On 12/6/12 7:46 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the
drift.

http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy

Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last.


====

Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and
probably you, share some confusion about the difference between
values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable
people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly,
it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others
and then accuse them of lacking "values".


Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first
one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals,
especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose
your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read
that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments.


Funny post, really, and it shows how disconnected you are.

Please explain how liberals have made marriage a sham and while you are
at it, tell how atheists are "imposing" their beliefs. Atheists don't
give a damn about your religious beliefs so long as you don't try to
impose them on others. Atheists aren't imposing their beliefs on
anyone...there are no door to door atheist.

Meyer[_2_] December 6th 12 01:37 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
On 12/6/2012 7:55 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/6/12 7:46 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it,
but hopefully you'll get the
drift.

http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy

Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably
won't be the last.

====

Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and
probably you, share some confusion about the difference between
values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable
people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly,
it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others
and then accuse them of lacking "values".


Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there.
I don't consider the first
one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some
meaning. Now liberals,
especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is
inappropriate to try and impose
your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing
theirs. If you can't read
that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can
understand your comments.


Funny post, really, and it shows how disconnected you are.

Please explain how liberals have made marriage a sham and while you are
at it, tell how atheists are "imposing" their beliefs. Atheists don't
give a damn about your religious beliefs so long as you don't try to
impose them on others. Atheists aren't imposing their beliefs on
anyone...there are no door to door atheist


Hey ESAD!......... ESAD


iBoaterer[_2_] December 6th 12 02:22 PM

Bob Costas trying to fit in...
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On 12/4/2012 2:14 PM, Califbill wrote:
jps wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=B1ijkccD9_8

How about a speech about the thug culture? The guy kills the girl friend,
who is the mother of his 3 year old daughter. Guns may make it easier, but
that is not the reason for all the violence. Lack of values is the real
problem.



The guy (costas) was just looking for brownie points...


Because he was remorseful that a great athlete killed himself and his
girlfriend??? Insanity!!


Because a man murdered the mother of his child and went and said good
bye to his boss before he took the cowards way out and blew his brains
all over the place.

Costas used the event to further his political agenda.


As are you and the other right wing trash. Good Christians, eh?

iBoaterer[_2_] December 6th 12 02:23 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the
drift.

http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy

Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last.


====

Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and
probably you, share some confusion about the difference between
values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable
people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly,
it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others
and then accuse them of lacking "values".


Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first
one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals,
especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose
your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read
that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments.


How have liberals made marriage a sham?

ESAD December 6th 12 02:31 PM

Bob Costas trying to fit in...
 
On 12/6/12 9:22 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On 12/4/2012 2:14 PM, Califbill wrote:
jps wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=B1ijkccD9_8

How about a speech about the thug culture? The guy kills the girl friend,
who is the mother of his 3 year old daughter. Guns may make it easier, but
that is not the reason for all the violence. Lack of values is the real
problem.



The guy (costas) was just looking for brownie points...

Because he was remorseful that a great athlete killed himself and his
girlfriend??? Insanity!!


Because a man murdered the mother of his child and went and said good
bye to his boss before he took the cowards way out and blew his brains
all over the place.

Costas used the event to further his political agenda.


As are you and the other right wing trash. Good Christians, eh?



Is Costas running for office? Just what is his political agenda?


Califbill December 6th 12 09:30 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
ESAD wrote:
On 12/6/12 7:46 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but
hopefully you'll get the
drift.

http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy

Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last.

====

Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and
probably you, share some confusion about the difference between
values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable
people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly,
it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others
and then accuse them of lacking "values".


Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I
don't consider the first
one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some
meaning. Now liberals,
especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is
inappropriate to try and impose
your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing
theirs. If you can't read
that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments.


Funny post, really, and it shows how disconnected you are.

Please explain how liberals have made marriage a sham and while you are
at it, tell how atheists are "imposing" their beliefs. Atheists don't
give a damn about your religious beliefs so long as you don't try to
impose them on others. Atheists aren't imposing their beliefs on
anyone...there are no door to door atheist.


Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the
door in their face.

Califbill December 6th 12 09:30 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but
hopefully you'll get the
drift.

http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy

Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last.


====

Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and
probably you, share some confusion about the difference between
values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable
people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly,
it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others
and then accuse them of lacking "values".


Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I
don't consider the first
one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some
meaning. Now liberals,
especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is
inappropriate to try and impose
your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing
theirs. If you can't read
that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments.


Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but
likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage
has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the
bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses
in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be
Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20
witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state
involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same
sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your
lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do
not expect society to pay for your medical bills.

JustWait[_2_] December 6th 12 09:42 PM

Bob Costas speaks the truth
 
On 12/6/2012 4:30 PM, Califbill wrote:
GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but
hopefully you'll get the
drift.

http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy

Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last.

====

Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and
probably you, share some confusion about the difference between
values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable
people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly,
it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others
and then accuse them of lacking "values".


Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I
don't consider the first
one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some
meaning. Now liberals,
especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is
inappropriate to try and impose
your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing
theirs. If you can't read
that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments.


Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but
likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage
has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the
bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses
in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be
Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20
witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state
involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same
sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your
lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do
not expect society to pay for your medical bills.


Atheists are bullying Christians all over the country. Putting up nasty
posters to mock and just kill Christian freedom of speech at Nativities
and such, even going as far as taking the word God from a 6 year olds
poem to her granny at a school function, and getting "A Charlie Brown
Christmas" banned... This is just intolerance and hate, nothing else...


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