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On 12/6/12 4:30 PM, Califbill wrote:
ESAD wrote: On 12/6/12 7:46 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Funny post, really, and it shows how disconnected you are. Please explain how liberals have made marriage a sham and while you are at it, tell how atheists are "imposing" their beliefs. Atheists don't give a damn about your religious beliefs so long as you don't try to impose them on others. Atheists aren't imposing their beliefs on anyone...there are no door to door atheist. Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. I'm not aware of any court cases in which atheists are trying to force their non-belief in a creator on anyone else. Atheists do use the courts to attempt to keep religion out of the public schools and to keep religion out of public facilities and out of public budgets, actions they are entitled to take. There is nothing dishonest about this. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/6/12 4:42 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/6/2012 4:30 PM, Califbill wrote: GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. Atheists are bullying Christians all over the country. Putting up nasty posters to mock and just kill Christian freedom of speech at Nativities and such, even going as far as taking the word God from a 6 year olds poem to her granny at a school function, and getting "A Charlie Brown Christmas" banned... This is just intolerance and hate, nothing else... That's yet another crock of crap. Atheists are not bullying anyone. You want a Nativity scene? Fine. Put it up on your front lawn or on your church's lawn, but not on the lawn of a public school or in a public park. There is no place for religious functions or displays in the public schools. Note, however, there is little objection to public college courses teaching "comparative religions," so long as the teaching isn't favoring one religion over another. It is intolerant to force your religious views onto the public schools or onto public facilities. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:30:11 -0600, Califbill wrote:
ESAD wrote: On 12/6/12 7:46 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Funny post, really, and it shows how disconnected you are. Please explain how liberals have made marriage a sham and while you are at it, tell how atheists are "imposing" their beliefs. Atheists don't give a damn about your religious beliefs so long as you don't try to impose them on others. Atheists aren't imposing their beliefs on anyone...there are no door to door atheist. Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. I've not seen any Christians, Muslims, or Jews proselytizing here, but I have seen several of our resident atheists putting down the religious beliefs of others. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/6/12 6:12 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:30:11 -0600, Califbill wrote: ESAD wrote: On 12/6/12 7:46 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Funny post, really, and it shows how disconnected you are. Please explain how liberals have made marriage a sham and while you are at it, tell how atheists are "imposing" their beliefs. Atheists don't give a damn about your religious beliefs so long as you don't try to impose them on others. Atheists aren't imposing their beliefs on anyone...there are no door to door atheist. Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. I've not seen any Christians, Muslims, or Jews proselytizing here, but I have seen several of our resident atheists putting down the religious beliefs of others. Discussing the validity of belief, or religions or the disparities between one's stated religious beliefs and one's behavior is not stopping anyone from practicing hie or her beliefs. Further, there are many public officials in this country, especially conservative public officials, who claim to be of a particular religious belief but their statements and behavior indicate they are hypocrites. You've claimed more than once to be a christian, a catholic, if memory serves. Your claimed religious beliefs and your behavior and your disparaging statements about others do not seem compatible. |
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says... On 12/6/12 6:12 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:30:11 -0600, Califbill wrote: ESAD wrote: On 12/6/12 7:46 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Funny post, really, and it shows how disconnected you are. Please explain how liberals have made marriage a sham and while you are at it, tell how atheists are "imposing" their beliefs. Atheists don't give a damn about your religious beliefs so long as you don't try to impose them on others. Atheists aren't imposing their beliefs on anyone...there are no door to door atheist. Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. I've not seen any Christians, Muslims, or Jews proselytizing here, but I have seen several of our resident atheists putting down the religious beliefs of others. Discussing the validity of belief, or religions or the disparities between one's stated religious beliefs and one's behavior is not stopping anyone from practicing hie or her beliefs. Further, there are many public officials in this country, especially conservative public officials, who claim to be of a particular religious belief but their statements and behavior indicate they are hypocrites. You've claimed more than once to be a christian, a catholic, if memory serves. Your claimed religious beliefs and your behavior and your disparaging statements about others do not seem compatible. You claim to be tolerant of other views and to be a good citizen. But, in reality you are an asshole and you are a tax cheat. Go pay your taxes, show us the receipt. |
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says... On 12/6/12 4:42 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/6/2012 4:30 PM, Califbill wrote: GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. Atheists are bullying Christians all over the country. Putting up nasty posters to mock and just kill Christian freedom of speech at Nativities and such, even going as far as taking the word God from a 6 year olds poem to her granny at a school function, and getting "A Charlie Brown Christmas" banned... This is just intolerance and hate, nothing else... That's yet another crock of crap. Atheists are not bullying anyone. You want a Nativity scene? Fine. Put it up on your front lawn or on your church's lawn, but not on the lawn of a public school or in a public park. There is no place for religious functions or displays in the public schools. Note, however, there is little objection to public college courses teaching "comparative religions," so long as the teaching isn't favoring one religion over another. It is intolerant to force your religious views onto the public schools or onto public facilities. Freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:
Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/6/2012 10:00 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. Show me where it says "freedom from religion"?? |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/6/2012 10:00 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. And they are nothing but bullying. In San Diego they (atheists) flooded the town committee with requests for the Christmas display spots and then just put up a bunch of mocking displays, celebrating nothing... but for no other reason but to denigrate and eventually get the Christmas display discontinued... Nothing else... That is bullying, period. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be religion. Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala Church of England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of Independence. Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is also owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people. Even atheists can have a display on public property. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/6/2012 7:21 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/6/2012 10:00 PM, thumper wrote: On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. Show me where it says "freedom from religion"?? Maybe you should attempt to understand what it does say. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/6/12 10:21 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/6/2012 10:00 PM, thumper wrote: On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. Show me where it says "freedom from religion"?? You have no understanding of the Constitution or the "separation" clause, so why should anyone bother to "show" you a thing. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/6/12 10:28 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/6/2012 10:00 PM, thumper wrote: On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. And they are nothing but bullying. In San Diego they (atheists) flooded the town committee with requests for the Christmas display spots and then just put up a bunch of mocking displays, celebrating nothing... but for no other reason but to denigrate and eventually get the Christmas display discontinued... Nothing else... That is bullying, period. Is there a shortage of private land in San Diego? No church yards on which to put up Christmas displays? Do you have a manger in your front yard? |
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On 12/7/2012 1:14 AM, thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 7:21 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/6/2012 10:00 PM, thumper wrote: On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. Show me where it says "freedom from religion"?? Maybe you should attempt to understand what it does say. So, you can't show me where it says that so you are gonna' try to tell me what you think it says? Another bully... |
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On 12/7/2012 12:36 AM, Califbill wrote:
thumper wrote: On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be religion. Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala Church of England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of Independence. Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is also owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people. Even atheists can have a display on public property. And that's the point... They can so they do, even if they have nothing to celebrate, only want to disrupt someone elses celebration... |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/7/12 7:38 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/7/2012 12:36 AM, Califbill wrote: thumper wrote: On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be religion. Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala Church of England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of Independence. Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is also owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people. Even atheists can have a display on public property. And that's the point... They can so they do, even if they have nothing to celebrate, only want to disrupt someone elses celebration... Funny, neither you nor Bilious Bill understand the First Amendment or its history. There's a lot more about how the Amendment came about than "the Church of England." Obviously, "religious people" can use public facilities, but that doesn't mean they can use those facilities to promote their religious beliefs. No one gives a damn what displays "religious people" put up on private or church property. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/7/12 7:37 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/7/2012 1:14 AM, thumper wrote: On 12/6/2012 7:21 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/6/2012 10:00 PM, thumper wrote: On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. Show me where it says "freedom from religion"?? Maybe you should attempt to understand what it does say. So, you can't show me where it says that so you are gonna' try to tell me what you think it says? Another bully... You're so stupid you can't find it yourself? |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
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Bob Costas speaks the truth
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Bob Costas speaks the truth
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Bob Costas speaks the truth
In article 610427301376509105.183778bmckeenospam-
, says... ESAD wrote: On 12/6/12 7:46 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Funny post, really, and it shows how disconnected you are. Please explain how liberals have made marriage a sham and while you are at it, tell how atheists are "imposing" their beliefs. Atheists don't give a damn about your religious beliefs so long as you don't try to impose them on others. Atheists aren't imposing their beliefs on anyone...there are no door to door atheist. Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. Cite? |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/7/2012 7:56 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 12/6/12 10:21 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/6/2012 10:00 PM, thumper wrote: On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. Show me where it says "freedom from religion"?? You have no understanding of the Constitution or the "separation" clause, so why should anyone bother to "show" you a thing. If we use your interpretation of the Constitution and the laws we may end up with a tax lien on our property or we may even be sued by the government for non-payment of taxes. I dismiss anything harry says, he's just rockin' that extra chromosome:0 |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
In article , says...
On 12/6/2012 4:30 PM, Califbill wrote: GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. Atheists are bullying Christians all over the country. Putting up nasty posters to mock and just kill Christian freedom of speech at Nativities and such, even going as far as taking the word God from a 6 year olds poem to her granny at a school function, and getting "A Charlie Brown Christmas" banned... This is just intolerance and hate, nothing else... I'm sure you have evidence of the above, right? Oh, wait, never mind, it's just more of your insane babbling. Now be a good Christian and call people "****s" etc. |
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says... On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:30:11 -0600, Califbill wrote: ESAD wrote: On 12/6/12 7:46 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Funny post, really, and it shows how disconnected you are. Please explain how liberals have made marriage a sham and while you are at it, tell how atheists are "imposing" their beliefs. Atheists don't give a damn about your religious beliefs so long as you don't try to impose them on others. Atheists aren't imposing their beliefs on anyone...there are no door to door atheist. Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. I've not seen any Christians, Muslims, or Jews proselytizing here, but I have seen several of our resident atheists putting down the religious beliefs of others. Are you a charter member of that great Christian group, Westboro Baptist? |
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On 12/7/12 8:32 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/7/2012 7:56 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/6/12 10:21 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/6/2012 10:00 PM, thumper wrote: On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. Show me where it says "freedom from religion"?? You have no understanding of the Constitution or the "separation" clause, so why should anyone bother to "show" you a thing. If we use your interpretation of the Constitution and the laws we may end up with a tax lien on our property or we may even be sued by the government for non-payment of taxes. I dismiss anything harry says, he's just rockin' that extra chromosome:0 Really? If you think that, then, obviously, you are missing some chromosomes. Actually...you probably are. There's no evidence here that you've ever even read the U.S. Constitution, much less that you understand any of it. Have you ever read it from beginning to end? |
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Bob Costas speaks the truth
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Bob Costas speaks the truth
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Bob Costas speaks the truth
In article 1635163131376547539.158933bmckeenospam-
, says... thumper wrote: On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be religion. Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala Church of England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of Independence. Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is also owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people. Even atheists can have a display on public property. Ever hear of separation of church and state? |
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Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/7/2012 7:47 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/7/12 7:38 AM, JustWait wrote: On 12/7/2012 12:36 AM, Califbill wrote: thumper wrote: On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be religion. Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala Church of England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of Independence. Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is also owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people. Even atheists can have a display on public property. And that's the point... They can so they do, even if they have nothing to celebrate, only want to disrupt someone elses celebration... Funny, neither you nor Bilious Bill understand the First Amendment or its history. There's a lot more about how the Amendment came about than "the Church of England." Obviously, "religious people" can use public facilities, but that doesn't mean they can use those facilities to promote their religious beliefs. No one gives a damn what displays "religious people" put up on private or church property. You're just sore because your wife puts up Christmas decorations without your consent. Don't be putting your own misery on us. Man up and take charge of your own life and leave us alone, Grinch |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/7/12 10:55 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:31:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article 610427301376509105.183778bmckeenospam- , says... ESAD wrote: On 12/6/12 7:46 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Funny post, really, and it shows how disconnected you are. Please explain how liberals have made marriage a sham and while you are at it, tell how atheists are "imposing" their beliefs. Atheists don't give a damn about your religious beliefs so long as you don't try to impose them on others. Atheists aren't imposing their beliefs on anyone...there are no door to door atheist. Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. Cite? Here, Kevin: About 5,670,000 results (0.17 seconds) Search Results Home - Freedom From Religion Foundation ffrf.org/FFRF takes IRS to court to enforce church electioneering ban ... Portlanders to their “friendly neighborhood atheists” was defaced recently. ... Non-Belief Relief ... Atheist group sues IRS for failing to enforce church electioneering ... http://www.rawstory.com/.../atheist-...r-failing-to-e... Churches *should* be called on the carpet for electioneering. I wasn't aware there was a Freedom *from* Religion Foundation. Sounds like a great idea. Here it is... http://ffrf.org/ Why are you shoveling religion? You certainly don't practice the preaching of your savior. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
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On 12/7/2012 7:56 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 12/6/12 10:21 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/6/2012 10:00 PM, thumper wrote: On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. Show me where it says "freedom from religion"?? You have no understanding of the Constitution or the "separation" clause, so why should anyone bother to "show" you a thing. If we use your interpretation of the Constitution and the laws we may end up with a tax lien on our property or we may even be sued by the government for non-payment of taxes. I dismiss anything harry says, he's just rockin' that extra chromosome:0 Of course you dismiss anything that doesn't toe the FOX line. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On Friday, December 7, 2012 11:05:11 AM UTC-5, ESAD wrote:
Why are you shoveling religion? You certainly don't practice the preaching of your savior. Why are you shoveling liberalism? You don't pay your taxes and debts. Oh, the two aren't mutually exclusive, more like bedfellows, eh? |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
... In article 1635163131376547539.158933bmckeenospam- , says... thumper wrote: On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be religion. Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala Church of England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of Independence. Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is also owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people. Even atheists can have a display on public property. Ever hear of separation of church and state? ---------------------------- yup. Where does it state that in the Constitution? |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
... In article 610427301376509105.183778bmckeenospam- , says... ESAD wrote: On 12/6/12 7:46 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Funny post, really, and it shows how disconnected you are. Please explain how liberals have made marriage a sham and while you are at it, tell how atheists are "imposing" their beliefs. Atheists don't give a damn about your religious beliefs so long as you don't try to impose them on others. Atheists aren't imposing their beliefs on anyone...there are no door to door atheist. Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. Cite? ----------------- Can not help since you are intellectually lazy. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
"Califbill" wrote in message
... GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. ----------------- dang Ipad and the spelling corrections. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
On 12/7/12 5:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article 1635163131376547539.158933bmckeenospam- , says... thumper wrote: On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote: Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The door to door missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just close the door in their face. They are using the courts to enforce the constitution. Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be religion. Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala Church of England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of Independence. Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is also owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people. Even atheists can have a display on public property. Ever hear of separation of church and state? ---------------------------- yup. Where does it state that in the Constitution? In the first amendment and in interpretations by the supreme court, neither of which you've probably read for comprehension. |
Bob Costas speaks the truth
"JustWait" wrote in message ...
On 12/6/2012 4:30 PM, Califbill wrote: GuzzisRule wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't write it, but hopefully you'll get the drift. http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time and probably won't be the last. ==== Judging from that article I'd have to say that the author, and probably you, share some confusion about the difference between values, religious beliefs and political beliefs. Sometimes reasonable people with high values have to agree to disagree. More importantly, it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others and then accuse them of lacking "values". Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing religious there. I don't consider the first one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution that had some meaning. Now liberals, especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is 'it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious beliefs on others', and that includes atheists imposing theirs. If you can't read that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then I can understand your comments. Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on others, but likewise, others should not infringe your religious freedoms. And marriage has been different things through the years. Lots of the profits in the bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry multiple spouses in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even have to be Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in front of 20 witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No church or state involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want to marry same sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay for your lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that happens, but do not expect society to pay for your medical bills. Atheists are bullying Christians all over the country. Putting up nasty posters to mock and just kill Christian freedom of speech at Nativities and such, even going as far as taking the word God from a 6 year olds poem to her granny at a school function, and getting "A Charlie Brown Christmas" banned... This is just intolerance and hate, nothing else... ------------------ It may be hate and intolerance, but they have the same rights to speech as do those of a religious bent. Getting such banned, should not be, but they have the right to speak against religion. |
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