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Dive Boat, 45-foot-long catamaran, capsizes in Florida, woman killed
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/...florida-coast/
The power of a large breaking wave is not to be under estimated. |
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Dive Boat, 45-foot-long catamaran, capsizes in Florida, woman killed
On Nov 27, 12:06*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/...fter-dive-boat... The power of a large breaking wave is not to be under estimated. Wow. A 45 footer! Wayne was it a rogue wave or could they have detected it coming? |
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Dive Boat, 45-foot-long catamaran, capsizes in Florida, woman killed
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:44:02 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Nov 27, 12:06Â*pm, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/...fter-dive-boat... The power of a large breaking wave is not to be under estimated. Wow. A 45 footer! Wayne was it a rogue wave or could they have detected it coming? There was a small craft advisory out that day.. (7 to 9 feet seas).. The winds were shifting from the NW to N. @16-18mph.. gusts to 23 mph.. right around the time of capsizing.. http://www.wunderground.com/history/...sta tename=NA (airport ~1mile west of inlet.. ) That inlet can be a real pain, today, I navigated it with an outgoing tide and winds driving waves (the exact opposite direction) into the inlet. Took a real beating, but had no choice other than taking 6 to 7 foot closely spaced waves head on.. (very little room for maneuver in that inlet).. |
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Dive Boat, 45-foot-long catamaran, capsizes in Florida, woman killed
On Nov 27, 10:23*pm, T. Keating wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:44:02 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 27, 12:06*pm, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/...fter-dive-boat.... The power of a large breaking wave is not to be under estimated. Wow. A 45 footer! *Wayne was it a rogue wave or could they have detected it coming? There was a small craft advisory out that day.. (7 to 9 feet seas).. The winds were shifting from the NW to N. @16-18mph.. gusts to 23 mph.. right around the time of capsizing.. http://www.wunderground.com/history/...1/22/DailyHist... (airport ~1mile west of inlet.. ) * That inlet can be a real pain, today, I navigated it with an outgoing tide and winds driving waves (the exact opposite direction) into the inlet. *Took a real beating, but had no choice other than taking 6 to 7 foot closely spaced waves head on.. (very little room for maneuver in that inlet).. Glad you made it though ok. I was wondering if there was a technology that could give any kid of warning that waves like that could be upon them. And if so, I would think that a 45 foot commercial vessel would have been equipped with such. but maybe not. |
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Dive Boat, 45-foot-long catamaran, capsizes in Florida, woman killed
"Tim" wrote in message
... On Nov 27, 10:23 pm, T. Keating wrote: On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:44:02 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 27, 12:06 pm, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/...fter-dive-boat... The power of a large breaking wave is not to be under estimated. Wow. A 45 footer! Wayne was it a rogue wave or could they have detected it coming? There was a small craft advisory out that day.. (7 to 9 feet seas).. The winds were shifting from the NW to N. @16-18mph.. gusts to 23 mph.. right around the time of capsizing.. http://www.wunderground.com/history/...1/22/DailyHist... (airport ~1mile west of inlet.. ) That inlet can be a real pain, today, I navigated it with an outgoing tide and winds driving waves (the exact opposite direction) into the inlet. Took a real beating, but had no choice other than taking 6 to 7 foot closely spaced waves head on.. (very little room for maneuver in that inlet).. Glad you made it though ok. I was wondering if there was a technology that could give any kid of warning that waves like that could be upon them. And if so, I would think that a 45 foot commercial vessel would have been equipped with such. but maybe not. ------------------------------- Some people are bound to do stupid. A couple weeks ago, a 23' boat capsized entering Tomales Bay. Entrance can be a killer. Has wind funneled by Point Reyes, and can have breaking waves, and really breaking waves. Someone said this boat actually went end for end and not sideways. But unbelievable luck was with them as there were 2 young kids in the cabin and were trapped for 2 hours upside down before being rescued. No one died. As to commercial, they do stupid also. Guy I knew ran a party boat and killed a few people. He used to fish locally to San Francisco where I knew him. http://www.katu.com/news/local/7585417.html |
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Dive Boat, 45-foot-long catamaran, capsizes in Florida, woman killed
On Nov 28, 7:55*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"Tim" *wrote in message ... On Nov 27, 10:23 pm, T. Keating wrote: On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:44:02 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 27, 12:06 pm, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/...fter-dive-boat.... The power of a large breaking wave is not to be under estimated. Wow. A 45 footer! *Wayne was it a rogue wave or could they have detected it coming? There was a small craft advisory out that day.. (7 to 9 feet seas).. The winds were shifting from the NW to N. @16-18mph.. gusts to 23 mph.. right around the time of capsizing.. http://www.wunderground.com/history/...1/22/DailyHist... (airport ~1mile west of inlet.. ) * That inlet can be a real pain, today, I navigated it with an outgoing tide and winds driving waves (the exact opposite direction) into the inlet. *Took a real beating, but had no choice other than taking 6 to 7 foot closely spaced waves head on.. (very little room for maneuver in that inlet).. Glad you made it though ok. I was wondering if there was a technology that could give any kid of warning that waves like that could be upon them. And if so, I would think that a 45 foot commercial vessel would have been equipped with such. but maybe not. ------------------------------- Some people are bound to do stupid. *A couple weeks ago, a 23' boat capsized entering Tomales Bay. *Entrance can be a killer. *Has wind funneled by Point Reyes, and can have breaking waves, and really breaking waves. *Someone said this boat actually went end for end and not sideways. *But unbelievable luck was with them as there were 2 young kids in the cabin and were trapped for 2 hours upside down before being rescued. *No one died. *As to commercial, they do stupid also. *Guy I knew ran a party boat and killed a few people. He used to fish locally to San Francisco where I knew him.http://www.katu..com/news/local/7585417.html "A federal judge sentenced Richard Oba on Friday to six years in prison for three deaths after his charter tuna boat capsized near Winchester Bay in September 2005. The sentence imposed by U.S. District Judge Ancer Haggerty went beyond the recommended federal guidelines of about 3½ to 4 years after Haggerty determined that Oba had been reckless. The government had sought about 3½ years..." Dooood! Man , they fried him! |
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Dive Boat, 45-foot-long catamaran, capsizes in Florida, woman killed
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:44:02 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Nov 27, 12:06*pm, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/...fter-dive-boat... The power of a large breaking wave is not to be under estimated. Wow. A 45 footer! Wayne was it a rogue wave or could they have detected it coming? === "Rogue Wave" is imprecise terminology which usually means a wave that is much larger than others around it. All we know for sure is that they were near a tricky ocean inlet, and inlets are a breeding ground for breaking waves because of shallow water and currents. They probably had little or no warning. Reported and forecasted wave heights are an average, and from a statistical stand point it is entirely possible to get waves that are 2 and 3 times larger than average, sometimes more. Waves also dramatically increase in height and steepness as they approach shallow water and/or an ebb current. It is not height alone which capsizes boats but the steepness of the leading edge. As steepness increases, the wave literally trips over itself and starts to break. It has been calculated that any boat can be capsized if the height of a breaking wave approaches a little more than half the boats width (beam). |
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Dive Boat, 45-foot-long catamaran, capsizes in Florida, woman killed
On Nov 28, 3:10*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:44:02 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 27, 12:06 pm, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/...fter-dive-boat.... The power of a large breaking wave is not to be under estimated. Wow. A 45 footer! *Wayne was it a rogue wave or could they have detected it coming? === "Rogue Wave" is imprecise terminology which usually means a wave that is much larger than others around it. Tells you what I know. Thanks for the clarification, Wayne. I may have used the wrong phrase, but at least it was pointed in the right direction...ie glad you knew what I meant. ?;^) |
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Dive Boat, 45-foot-long catamaran, capsizes in Florida, woman killed
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:01:17 -0500, Gogarty
wrote: In article , says... (snip) The only time my heart is in my throat is when I am running an inlet in a sailboat. === Running inlets in a power boat isn't any better. We had a wedding to attend on Fire Island, Long Island a year ago so we decided to go by boat since we had gone north for the summer, and FI was sort of on the way south. On days with only average wind and sea conditions we were seeing 6 to 10 ft breaking seas in Jones Beach inlet. It really gets your attention. |
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