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On Monday, November 12, 2012 7:30:52 PM UTC-5, harry wrote:

I've been back here what, two weeks?

There, I fixed it for you, deadbeat. Pay your taxes.


You right-wing morons are no more correct about my identity than you were
in your election predictions. Must really suck to see your great white rich
hope lose to a black man who most of your believe wasn't born in the United
States.

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On 11/12/2012 10:07 PM, Califbill wrote:
"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 11/12/2012 9:41 AM, Califbill wrote:
"thumper" wrote in message ...
On 11/10/2012 11:01 AM, Califbill wrote:

... Plus with the talk of tax increases and extra fees on
most business, why would someone want to start a small business?

To provide innovative products and make some money like the one I'm
involved in.



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Garage shops do not count.

You have no clue Bill...

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actually I do. Unlike you and a lot of others here I ran a business.
Without credit, we would have been out of business. To buy an $85k
delivery truck you need credit or deep pockets. Same went for the
rental equipment.

What you have no clue about is your presumption that the start-up I'm
involved in is a "garage shop" that lacks funding.

The start-ups I was involved in in the 90's started out with sweat
equity. The first round of funding was not enough to give everyone a fat
paycheck and the second round funding was used to hire other people who
were needed to operate the business. These other people got paid and the
founders were still putting in sweat and taking out no money.

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
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In article ,
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"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 11/10/2012 11:01 AM, Califbill wrote:

... Plus with the talk of tax increases and extra fees on
most business, why would someone want to start a small business?

To provide innovative products and make some money like the one I'm
involved in.



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Garage shops do not count.

Why not?


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To grow big you need business credit. When Job's and Woz came up with the
Apple-1, They would have not been able to grow without lines of credit
available. Or a Venture Capitol firm taking a big percentage. The Fed's
have taken up most available credit these days.

But, what I asked it why "garage shops do not count". They too would
need funding to grow.

On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:58:45 AM UTC-5, Meyer wrote:
On 11/13/2012 7:12 AM, harry wrote:

wrote:

On Monday, November 12, 2012 7:30:52 PM UTC-5, harry wrote:



I've been back here what, two weeks?



There, I fixed it for you, deadbeat. Pay your taxes.





You right-wing morons are correct about my identity


Are you trying to tell us that you, Harry Krause do not exist. Sorry,
you've left too big a trail here. We know you better than your dearly
departed mother did. You are the scum of the earth, and a disgrace to
your family name.

Spot on. harry is a proven liar, was a failed businessman and tax cheat in Florida, had to leave the state and now can't have his own name on "his" house, and left this NG in disgrace after it all came out.

The new harry is a re-run of the old harry. It may be the old one slithering back in, or a new one that picked the moniker. Matters not to me, it will always be harry.

Pay your taxes, deadbeat harry.

On 11/13/2012 3:50 AM, Meyer wrote:

Tell us all about it. Your garage shop, that is.

There's a car in it. The boat is outside.

"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 11/12/2012 10:07 PM, Califbill wrote:
"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 11/12/2012 9:41 AM, Califbill wrote:
"thumper" wrote in message ...
On 11/10/2012 11:01 AM, Califbill wrote:

... Plus with the talk of tax increases and extra fees on
most business, why would someone want to start a small business?

To provide innovative products and make some money like the one I'm
involved in.



------------------------

Garage shops do not count.

You have no clue Bill...

----------------------

actually I do. Unlike you and a lot of others here I ran a business.
Without credit, we would have been out of business. To buy an $85k
delivery truck you need credit or deep pockets. Same went for the
rental equipment.

What you have no clue about is your presumption that the start-up I'm
involved in is a "garage shop" that lacks funding.


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That is nice you have deep pockets. But most other startups do not have
that luxury. Or you have a VC with deep pockets.

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

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says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 11/10/2012 11:01 AM, Califbill wrote:

... Plus with the talk of tax increases and extra fees on
most business, why would someone want to start a small business?

To provide innovative products and make some money like the one I'm
involved in.



------------------------

Garage shops do not count.

Why not?


-------------------------------
To grow big you need business credit. When Job's and Woz came up with the
Apple-1, They would have not been able to grow without lines of credit
available. Or a Venture Capitol firm taking a big percentage. The Fed's
have taken up most available credit these days.

But, what I asked it why "garage shops do not count". They too would
need funding to grow.


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You insinuate Garage Shops do not need credit. Therefore a GS that does not
require credit to grow it a large business, does not count.