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Where is the media coverage?
....of the roving groups of people in NYC doing the smash and grab? Ripping off homes and businesses? Have any of you seen any mention of this behavior in the media?
I certainly don't think for a moment that's it's not happening. There are some bad neighborhoods and mean streets in and around NYC. Yet I haven't seen a mention of it, at least not on the news sites I've visited. The media has been very silent on this. Makes you wonder why. Someone I work with has family up there. They told her that there are reports of people dressing in Con-Ed like uniforms with faked IDs, that are going into the residential buildings and posing as workers to gain entry, then are robbing people at gunpoint. I'll won't hold my breath to see if that's on the nightly news tonight. Those kinds of stories won't play well in our current political climate. Sends the wrong message, dontcha know? |
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Where is the media coverage?
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:28:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Someone I work with has family up there. They told her that there are reports of people dressing in Con-Ed like uniforms with faked IDs === I have family there, and frankly, I don't think that sort of thing is happening, not to say there haven'y been some random looting incidents. Sadly that is inevitable anywhere. |
Where is the media coverage?
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says... On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:43:16 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 11/1/2012 7:24 PM, wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:28:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote: ...of the roving groups of people in NYC doing the smash and grab? Ripping off homes and businesses? Have any of you seen any mention of this behavior in the media? No I haven't! I haven't seen any coverage of the alien abductions and the gang rapes of human women by bigfoot, either. Obviously, a liberal media bias, or we'd be hearing more about it. I certainly don't think for a moment that's it's not happening. There are some bad neighborhoods and mean streets in and around NYC. Yet I haven't seen a mention of it, at least not on the news sites I've visited. The media has been very silent on this. Makes you wonder why. I think, therefore IT IS! And that makes the aliens and Sasquatch all the more real and threatening. Someone I work with has family up there. They told her that there are reports of people dressing in Con-Ed like uniforms with faked IDs, that are going into the residential buildings and posing as workers to gain entry, then are robbing people at gunpoint. I'll won't hold my breath to see if that's on the nightly news tonight. Those kinds of stories won't play well in our current political climate. Sends the wrong message, dontcha know? "Someone I work with" was told by "them" that there are "reports!" Goddam liberals are holding people up at gunpoint and nobody will report it! See thttp://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/looters-prey-sandys-hardest-hit/story?id=17610984#.UJLdBoYj0swhe above and you will understand the "logic" that may well elect Romney. Steel yourself for that Brave New World. http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/...4#.UJLdBoYj0sw Are you falling in the stoopid pit, too? Since time immemorial there have been low-lifes that took advantage of the down-and-out or less fortunate. You really think this would be any different? Yes, there will be looting. Is dumb-**** three pontoon's they-them-reports-I heard account descriptive of the link you posted? Nope. Does this drive home the need for citizens to be well armed? Well armed against garden variety hoodlums and the other neighborhood raiders, like some commercial entities? That is why we have the right to keep and bear arms. |
Where is the media coverage?
On Thursday, November 1, 2012 7:24:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: "Someone
I work with" was told by "them" that there are "reports!" Goddam liberals are holding people up at gunpoint and nobody will report it! I didn't say they were liberals. Why would you assume so? People I know as reasonable, real people have far more reliabilty than you, however. And the MSM have proved themselves as unreliable, time and time again. |
Where is the media coverage?
On Thursday, November 1, 2012 6:43:16 PM UTC-4, Meyer wrote:
On 11/1/2012 7:24 PM, wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:28:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote: ...of the roving groups of people in NYC doing the smash and grab? Ripping off homes and businesses? Have any of you seen any mention of this behavior in the media? No I haven't! I haven't seen any coverage of the alien abductions and the gang rapes of human women by bigfoot, either. Obviously, a liberal media bias, or we'd be hearing more about it. I certainly don't think for a moment that's it's not happening. There are some bad neighborhoods and mean streets in and around NYC. Yet I haven't seen a mention of it, at least not on the news sites I've visited. The media has been very silent on this. Makes you wonder why. I think, therefore IT IS! And that makes the aliens and Sasquatch all the more real and threatening. Someone I work with has family up there. They told her that there are reports of people dressing in Con-Ed like uniforms with faked IDs, that are going into the residential buildings and posing as workers to gain entry, then are robbing people at gunpoint. I'll won't hold my breath to see if that's on the nightly news tonight. Those kinds of stories won't play well in our current political climate. Sends the wrong message, dontcha know? "Someone I work with" was told by "them" that there are "reports!" Goddam liberals are holding people up at gunpoint and nobody will report it! See thttp://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/looters-prey-sandys-hardest-hit/story?id=17610984#.UJLdBoYj0swhe above and you will understand the "logic" that may well elect Romney. Steel yourself for that Brave New World. http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/...4#.UJLdBoYj0sw Yeah, you have to dig for it. It's not thrust into our faces, like Katrina's was. |
Where is the media coverage?
On 11/2/2012 8:48 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:28:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote: ...of the roving groups of people in NYC doing the smash and grab? Ripping off homes and businesses? Have any of you seen any mention of this behavior in the media? No I haven't! I haven't seen any coverage of the alien abductions and the gang rapes of human women by bigfoot, either. Obviously, a liberal media bias, or we'd be hearing more about it. I certainly don't think for a moment that's it's not happening. There are some bad neighborhoods and mean streets in and around NYC. Yet I haven't seen a mention of it, at least not on the news sites I've visited. The media has been very silent on this. Makes you wonder why. I think, therefore IT IS! And that makes the aliens and Sasquatch all the more real and threatening. Someone I work with has family up there. They told her that there are reports of people dressing in Con-Ed like uniforms with faked IDs, that are going into the residential buildings and posing as workers to gain entry, then are robbing people at gunpoint. I'll won't hold my breath to see if that's on the nightly news tonight. Those kinds of stories won't play well in our current political climate. Sends the wrong message, dontcha know? "Someone I work with" was told by "them" that there are "reports!" Goddam liberals are holding people up at gunpoint and nobody will report it! See the above and you will understand the "logic" that may well elect Romney. Steel yourself for that Brave New World. Yep! You are falling in lockstep with a lunatic. But you probably don't realize it. |
Where is the media coverage?
On 11/2/2012 8:53 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... In article , says... On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:43:16 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 11/1/2012 7:24 PM, wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:28:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote: ...of the roving groups of people in NYC doing the smash and grab? Ripping off homes and businesses? Have any of you seen any mention of this behavior in the media? No I haven't! I haven't seen any coverage of the alien abductions and the gang rapes of human women by bigfoot, either. Obviously, a liberal media bias, or we'd be hearing more about it. I certainly don't think for a moment that's it's not happening. There are some bad neighborhoods and mean streets in and around NYC. Yet I haven't seen a mention of it, at least not on the news sites I've visited. The media has been very silent on this. Makes you wonder why. I think, therefore IT IS! And that makes the aliens and Sasquatch all the more real and threatening. Someone I work with has family up there. They told her that there are reports of people dressing in Con-Ed like uniforms with faked IDs, that are going into the residential buildings and posing as workers to gain entry, then are robbing people at gunpoint. I'll won't hold my breath to see if that's on the nightly news tonight. Those kinds of stories won't play well in our current political climate. Sends the wrong message, dontcha know? "Someone I work with" was told by "them" that there are "reports!" Goddam liberals are holding people up at gunpoint and nobody will report it! See thttp://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/looters-prey-sandys-hardest-hit/story?id=17610984#.UJLdBoYj0swhe above and you will understand the "logic" that may well elect Romney. Steel yourself for that Brave New World. http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/...4#.UJLdBoYj0sw Are you falling in the stoopid pit, too? Since time immemorial there have been low-lifes that took advantage of the down-and-out or less fortunate. You really think this would be any different? Yes, there will be looting. Is dumb-**** three pontoon's they-them-reports-I heard account descriptive of the link you posted? Nope. Does this drive home the need for citizens to be well armed? Well armed against garden variety hoodlums and the other neighborhood raiders, like some commercial entities? That is why we have the right to keep and bear arms. You can have bear arms if you want, I'll keep my human ones. It's funny how idiots interpret statements. Eh guys? |
Where is the media coverage?
In article ,
says... On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:28:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote: ...of the roving groups of people in NYC doing the smash and grab? Ripping off homes and businesses? Have any of you seen any mention of this behavior in the media? No I haven't! I haven't seen any coverage of the alien abductions and the gang rapes of human women by bigfoot, either. Obviously, a liberal media bias, or we'd be hearing more about it. I certainly don't think for a moment that's it's not happening. There are some bad neighborhoods and mean streets in and around NYC. Yet I haven't seen a mention of it, at least not on the news sites I've visited. The media has been very silent on this. Makes you wonder why. I think, therefore IT IS! And that makes the aliens and Sasquatch all the more real and threatening. Someone I work with has family up there. They told her that there are reports of people dressing in Con-Ed like uniforms with faked IDs, that are going into the residential buildings and posing as workers to gain entry, then are robbing people at gunpoint. I'll won't hold my breath to see if that's on the nightly news tonight. Those kinds of stories won't play well in our current political climate. Sends the wrong message, dontcha know? "Someone I work with" was told by "them" that there are "reports!" Goddam liberals are holding people up at gunpoint and nobody will report it! See the above and you will understand the "logic" that may well elect Romney. Steel yourself for that Brave New World. Yep! |
Where is the media coverage?
In article ,
says... On Thursday, November 1, 2012 6:43:16 PM UTC-4, Meyer wrote: On 11/1/2012 7:24 PM, wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:28:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote: ...of the roving groups of people in NYC doing the smash and grab? Ripping off homes and businesses? Have any of you seen any mention of this behavior in the media? No I haven't! I haven't seen any coverage of the alien abductions and the gang rapes of human women by bigfoot, either. Obviously, a liberal media bias, or we'd be hearing more about it. I certainly don't think for a moment that's it's not happening. There are some bad neighborhoods and mean streets in and around NYC. Yet I haven't seen a mention of it, at least not on the news sites I've visited. The media has been very silent on this. Makes you wonder why. I think, therefore IT IS! And that makes the aliens and Sasquatch all the more real and threatening. Someone I work with has family up there. They told her that there are reports of people dressing in Con-Ed like uniforms with faked IDs, that are going into the residential buildings and posing as workers to gain entry, then are robbing people at gunpoint. I'll won't hold my breath to see if that's on the nightly news tonight. Those kinds of stories won't play well in our current political climate. Sends the wrong message, dontcha know? "Someone I work with" was told by "them" that there are "reports!" Goddam liberals are holding people up at gunpoint and nobody will report it! See thttp://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/looters-prey-sandys-hardest-hit/story?id=17610984#.UJLdBoYj0swhe above and you will understand the "logic" that may well elect Romney. Steel yourself for that Brave New World. http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/...4#.UJLdBoYj0sw Yeah, you have to dig for it. It's not thrust into our faces, like Katrina's was. Because, even though the population of NYC is enormous compared to NOLA, there's been very little. |
Where is the media coverage?
In article ,
says... In article , says... On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:43:16 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 11/1/2012 7:24 PM, wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:28:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote: ...of the roving groups of people in NYC doing the smash and grab? Ripping off homes and businesses? Have any of you seen any mention of this behavior in the media? No I haven't! I haven't seen any coverage of the alien abductions and the gang rapes of human women by bigfoot, either. Obviously, a liberal media bias, or we'd be hearing more about it. I certainly don't think for a moment that's it's not happening. There are some bad neighborhoods and mean streets in and around NYC. Yet I haven't seen a mention of it, at least not on the news sites I've visited. The media has been very silent on this. Makes you wonder why. I think, therefore IT IS! And that makes the aliens and Sasquatch all the more real and threatening. Someone I work with has family up there. They told her that there are reports of people dressing in Con-Ed like uniforms with faked IDs, that are going into the residential buildings and posing as workers to gain entry, then are robbing people at gunpoint. I'll won't hold my breath to see if that's on the nightly news tonight. Those kinds of stories won't play well in our current political climate. Sends the wrong message, dontcha know? "Someone I work with" was told by "them" that there are "reports!" Goddam liberals are holding people up at gunpoint and nobody will report it! See thttp://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/looters-prey-sandys-hardest-hit/story?id=17610984#.UJLdBoYj0swhe above and you will understand the "logic" that may well elect Romney. Steel yourself for that Brave New World. http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/...4#.UJLdBoYj0sw Are you falling in the stoopid pit, too? Since time immemorial there have been low-lifes that took advantage of the down-and-out or less fortunate. You really think this would be any different? Yes, there will be looting. Is dumb-**** three pontoon's they-them-reports-I heard account descriptive of the link you posted? Nope. Does this drive home the need for citizens to be well armed? Well armed against garden variety hoodlums and the other neighborhood raiders, like some commercial entities? That is why we have the right to keep and bear arms. You can have bear arms if you want, I'll keep my human ones. |
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Where is the media coverage?
On 11/2/2012 10:38 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, November 1, 2012 4:47:45 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:28:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Someone I work with has family up there. They told her that there are reports of people dressing in Con-Ed like uniforms with faked IDs === I have family there, and frankly, I don't think that sort of thing is happening, not to say there haven'y been some random looting incidents. Sadly that is inevitable anywhere. I'm sure your family is not doing that kind of thing, but my friend has family there, and they tell her it *is* happening. Now we're finally starting to hear reports on the news about looting, even tweeting to form bands of looters. *And stories on the news about people complaining about the lack of federal response. Biggest diff between Katrina and now is that the MSM isn't pointing the finger of blame at the POTUS this time.* Let's hope this story develops fast enough for Romney to make use of it. |
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On Friday, November 2, 2012 8:50:10 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Because, even though the population of NYC is enormous compared to NOLA, there's been very little. Sorry, I just can't resist. Cite? And remember, the lack of reporting of it is *not* proof. |
Where is the media coverage?
On Thursday, November 1, 2012 4:47:45 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:28:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Someone I work with has family up there. They told her that there are reports of people dressing in Con-Ed like uniforms with faked IDs === I have family there, and frankly, I don't think that sort of thing is happening, not to say there haven'y been some random looting incidents. Sadly that is inevitable anywhere. I'm sure your family is not doing that kind of thing, but my friend has family there, and they tell her it *is* happening. Now we're finally starting to hear reports on the news about looting, even tweeting to form bands of looters. And stories on the news about people complaining about the lack of federal response. Biggest diff between Katrina and now is that the MSM isn't pointing the finger of blame at the POTUS this time. |
Where is the media coverage?
In article ,
says... On Friday, November 2, 2012 8:50:10 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: Because, even though the population of NYC is enormous compared to NOLA, there's been very little. Sorry, I just can't resist. Cite? And remember, the lack of reporting of it is *not* proof. Sure, here you go, now lets see your cites of the notion you have that crime is rampant.... http://tinyurl.com/aad8ma4 Notice this part: There was little sign of a crime wave, although police made multiple arrests in the city Monday and Tuesday, officials said. Charges included burglary, criminal mischief and trespassing. In one incident, three men were arrested on burglary charges after they struck a Radio Shack in Rockaway Beach, Queens, on Tuesday morning. Bloomberg promised "a very heavy police presence" in the darkened neighborhoods, which include much of Manhattan south of the Empire State Building, from the East River to the Hudson River. Even outside the blackout areas, police deployed vans and patrol cars with their roof lights on, along with officers on the streets in a robust show of force. NOTHING like the debacle that was New Orleans. |
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In article om,
says... On 11/2/2012 8:48 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:28:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote: ...of the roving groups of people in NYC doing the smash and grab? Ripping off homes and businesses? Have any of you seen any mention of this behavior in the media? No I haven't! I haven't seen any coverage of the alien abductions and the gang rapes of human women by bigfoot, either. Obviously, a liberal media bias, or we'd be hearing more about it. I certainly don't think for a moment that's it's not happening. There are some bad neighborhoods and mean streets in and around NYC. Yet I haven't seen a mention of it, at least not on the news sites I've visited. The media has been very silent on this. Makes you wonder why. I think, therefore IT IS! And that makes the aliens and Sasquatch all the more real and threatening. Someone I work with has family up there. They told her that there are reports of people dressing in Con-Ed like uniforms with faked IDs, that are going into the residential buildings and posing as workers to gain entry, then are robbing people at gunpoint. I'll won't hold my breath to see if that's on the nightly news tonight. Those kinds of stories won't play well in our current political climate. Sends the wrong message, dontcha know? "Someone I work with" was told by "them" that there are "reports!" Goddam liberals are holding people up at gunpoint and nobody will report it! See the above and you will understand the "logic" that may well elect Romney. Steel yourself for that Brave New World. Yep! You are falling in lockstep with a lunatic. But you probably don't realize it. He's a lunatic because he doesn't follow lockstep to the crazed right wingnuts here? |
Where is the media coverage?
In article om,
says... On 11/2/2012 8:53 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:43:16 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 11/1/2012 7:24 PM, wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:28:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote: ...of the roving groups of people in NYC doing the smash and grab? Ripping off homes and businesses? Have any of you seen any mention of this behavior in the media? No I haven't! I haven't seen any coverage of the alien abductions and the gang rapes of human women by bigfoot, either. Obviously, a liberal media bias, or we'd be hearing more about it. I certainly don't think for a moment that's it's not happening. There are some bad neighborhoods and mean streets in and around NYC. Yet I haven't seen a mention of it, at least not on the news sites I've visited. The media has been very silent on this. Makes you wonder why. I think, therefore IT IS! And that makes the aliens and Sasquatch all the more real and threatening. Someone I work with has family up there. They told her that there are reports of people dressing in Con-Ed like uniforms with faked IDs, that are going into the residential buildings and posing as workers to gain entry, then are robbing people at gunpoint. I'll won't hold my breath to see if that's on the nightly news tonight. Those kinds of stories won't play well in our current political climate. Sends the wrong message, dontcha know? "Someone I work with" was told by "them" that there are "reports!" Goddam liberals are holding people up at gunpoint and nobody will report it! See thttp://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/looters-prey-sandys-hardest-hit/story?id=17610984#.UJLdBoYj0swhe above and you will understand the "logic" that may well elect Romney. Steel yourself for that Brave New World. http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/...4#.UJLdBoYj0sw Are you falling in the stoopid pit, too? Since time immemorial there have been low-lifes that took advantage of the down-and-out or less fortunate. You really think this would be any different? Yes, there will be looting. Is dumb-**** three pontoon's they-them-reports-I heard account descriptive of the link you posted? Nope. Does this drive home the need for citizens to be well armed? Well armed against garden variety hoodlums and the other neighborhood raiders, like some commercial entities? That is why we have the right to keep and bear arms. You can have bear arms if you want, I'll keep my human ones. It's funny how idiots interpret statements. Eh guys? WHOOOOOOSH......... |
Where is the media coverage?
In article om,
says... On 11/2/2012 10:29 AM, wrote: On Friday, November 2, 2012 8:50:10 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: Because, even though the population of NYC is enormous compared to NOLA, there's been very little. Sorry, I just can't resist. Cite? And remember, the lack of reporting of it is *not* proof. Drawing parallels between The Big Easy and The Big Apple is insane. But consider the source. LOL Yes, pontoon sure was drawing those parallels. |
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In article ,
says... On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:40:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: http://tinyurl.com/aad8ma4 Notice this part: There was little sign of a crime wave, although police made multiple arrests in the city Monday and Tuesday, officials said. Charges included burglary, criminal mischief and trespassing. In one incident, three men were arrested on burglary charges after they struck a Radio Shack in Rockaway Beach, Queens, on Tuesday morning. Bloomberg promised "a very heavy police presence" in the darkened neighborhoods, which include much of Manhattan south of the Empire State Building, from the East River to the Hudson River. Even outside the blackout areas, police deployed vans and patrol cars with their roof lights on, along with officers on the streets in a robust show of force. NOTHING like the debacle that was New Orleans. To start with the NYPD is not nearly as corrupt as the NOLA police was. This is true. But that was only part of the problem. |
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 13:53:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:40:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: http://tinyurl.com/aad8ma4 Notice this part: There was little sign of a crime wave, although police made multiple arrests in the city Monday and Tuesday, officials said. Charges included burglary, criminal mischief and trespassing. In one incident, three men were arrested on burglary charges after they struck a Radio Shack in Rockaway Beach, Queens, on Tuesday morning. Bloomberg promised "a very heavy police presence" in the darkened neighborhoods, which include much of Manhattan south of the Empire State Building, from the East River to the Hudson River. Even outside the blackout areas, police deployed vans and patrol cars with their roof lights on, along with officers on the streets in a robust show of force. NOTHING like the debacle that was New Orleans. To start with the NYPD is not nearly as corrupt as the NOLA police was. This is true. But that was only part of the problem. True. The corruption started with the governor herself, and worked its way all down the line. |
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In article ,
says... On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 13:53:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:40:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: http://tinyurl.com/aad8ma4 Notice this part: There was little sign of a crime wave, although police made multiple arrests in the city Monday and Tuesday, officials said. Charges included burglary, criminal mischief and trespassing. In one incident, three men were arrested on burglary charges after they struck a Radio Shack in Rockaway Beach, Queens, on Tuesday morning. Bloomberg promised "a very heavy police presence" in the darkened neighborhoods, which include much of Manhattan south of the Empire State Building, from the East River to the Hudson River. Even outside the blackout areas, police deployed vans and patrol cars with their roof lights on, along with officers on the streets in a robust show of force. NOTHING like the debacle that was New Orleans. To start with the NYPD is not nearly as corrupt as the NOLA police was. This is true. But that was only part of the problem. True. The corruption started with the governor herself, and worked its way all down the line. So you don't think the robbers, killers, burglars, etc. had any hand in anything eh? That sounds very Harryesque. |
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"Boating All Out" wrote in message ... The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops. The Navy is doing squat. 20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than the entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship underway. Navy isn't needed. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Here's a short list of US Navy participation in providing help and aid immediately following Katrina: - More than 9,790 Americas were rescued or evacuated by the 50+ Navy aircraft from deployed ships, as well as NAS Pensacola and Atlanta. - 17 Navy ships on station including Iwo Jima, Bataan and USNS Comfort, which treated 1,000 patients. - More than 3,400 Seabees deployed to the region and helped clearing roads, disposing of debris and building shelters. - Ship’s small boats alone performed 380 evacuations, 28 MEDEVACS and six rescues. - They delivered 68,900 pound of food and 113,000 pounds of water. -Onboard aircraft flew 1,730 sorties. - The Navy took care of the more than 800 Navy families who lost everything. All that within a few days. |
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In article ,
says... "Boating All Out" wrote in message ... The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops. The Navy is doing squat. 20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than the entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship underway. Navy isn't needed. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Here's a short list of US Navy participation in providing help and aid immediately following Katrina: - More than 9,790 Americas were rescued or evacuated by the 50+ Navy aircraft from deployed ships, as well as NAS Pensacola and Atlanta. - 17 Navy ships on station including Iwo Jima, Bataan and USNS Comfort, which treated 1,000 patients. - More than 3,400 Seabees deployed to the region and helped clearing roads, disposing of debris and building shelters. - Ship?s small boats alone performed 380 evacuations, 28 MEDEVACS and six rescues. - They delivered 68,900 pound of food and 113,000 pounds of water. -Onboard aircraft flew 1,730 sorties. - The Navy took care of the more than 800 Navy families who lost everything. All that within a few days. Sandy, not Katrina. NY/NJ isn't a 3rd-world environment. Navy isn't evacuating anybody or providing any medical care. Locals have all that under control. Maybe the Seebees can help clear debris - if they ever get there. Not knocking the Navy. It's a different disaster. Any help they can provide will be welcomed. But nobody's stranded on rooftops. Here's the Navy role in Sandy relief efforts straight from the horse's mouth. http://navylive.dodlive.mil/2012/10/...-sandy-update/ |
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"Boating All Out" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Boating All Out" wrote in message ... The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops. The Navy is doing squat. 20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than the entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship underway. Navy isn't needed. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Here's a short list of US Navy participation in providing help and aid immediately following Katrina: - More than 9,790 Americas were rescued or evacuated by the 50+ Navy aircraft from deployed ships, as well as NAS Pensacola and Atlanta. - 17 Navy ships on station including Iwo Jima, Bataan and USNS Comfort, which treated 1,000 patients. - More than 3,400 Seabees deployed to the region and helped clearing roads, disposing of debris and building shelters. - Ship?s small boats alone performed 380 evacuations, 28 MEDEVACS and six rescues. - They delivered 68,900 pound of food and 113,000 pounds of water. -Onboard aircraft flew 1,730 sorties. - The Navy took care of the more than 800 Navy families who lost everything. All that within a few days. Sandy, not Katrina. NY/NJ isn't a 3rd-world environment. Navy isn't evacuating anybody or providing any medical care. Locals have all that under control. Maybe the Seebees can help clear debris - if they ever get there. Not knocking the Navy. It's a different disaster. Any help they can provide will be welcomed. But nobody's stranded on rooftops. Here's the Navy role in Sandy relief efforts straight from the horse's mouth. http://navylive.dodlive.mil/2012/10/...-sandy-update/ -------------------------------------------------- The Navy operates under orders from the Chief of Naval Operations who receives his marching orders from the Commander in Chief. The important part of your link with regard to Sandy is: " Right now, the only official tasking the Navy has received is ....." Granted, the role of the US Navy is not primarily for disaster relief and assistance, but it has made serious contributions, both here at home and to other countries over the years, as has the other branches of the US military. |
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says... In article , says... There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of people who ignored the evacuation order. NOLA was levee failure. No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge. Get used to it. When you build at or below sea-level you are just one wave away from a disaster. They also seemed to ignore the warnings about having several days of supplies and a hurricane kit with flashlights and other tools they need. Some guy was selling flashlights for $20. We also see FEMA still takes over a week to actually do anything of consequence in spite of white victims, 8 years of reforms and a democratic president. Storm came Tuesday. This is Friday. FEMA is all over the place. Learn to count, Mr Perfect. Exactly what is FEMA doing? Again it is the US military to the rescue, flying in power company trucks from California (probably to be sure they are union). The navy is bringing in ships for logistic support and the national guard is doing what they always do in emergencies, backing up first responders.. Only crackers believe your anti-union bull**** paranoia. Prove it. The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops. Tell all of the National Guard units who went to war over the past decade that they are just auxiliary cops. The Navy is doing squat. No orders, no go. 20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than the entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship underway. Navy isn't needed. Not if they don't have the fuel to run the equipment. And it won't matter if the loader drivers are union or not. It does in New Jersey. |
Where is the media coverage?
In article ,
says... In article , says... There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of people who ignored the evacuation order. NOLA was levee failure. No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge. Get used to it. They also seemed to ignore the warnings about having several days of supplies and a hurricane kit with flashlights and other tools they need. Some guy was selling flashlights for $20. We also see FEMA still takes over a week to actually do anything of consequence in spite of white victims, 8 years of reforms and a democratic president. Storm came Tuesday. This is Friday. FEMA is all over the place. Learn to count, Mr Perfect. Again it is the US military to the rescue, flying in power company trucks from California (probably to be sure they are union). The navy is bringing in ships for logistic support and the national guard is doing what they always do in emergencies, backing up first responders.. Only crackers believe your anti-union bull**** paranoia. Prove it. The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops. The Navy is doing squat. 20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than the entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship underway. Navy isn't needed. And it won't matter if the loader drivers are union or not. But all that you say is logical! The righties here are completely illogical in their thinking. It's insanity. |
Where is the media coverage?
In article ,
says... In article , says... In article , says... There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of people who ignored the evacuation order. NOLA was levee failure. No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge. Get used to it. When you build at or below sea-level you are just one wave away from a disaster. They also seemed to ignore the warnings about having several days of supplies and a hurricane kit with flashlights and other tools they need. Some guy was selling flashlights for $20. We also see FEMA still takes over a week to actually do anything of consequence in spite of white victims, 8 years of reforms and a democratic president. Storm came Tuesday. This is Friday. FEMA is all over the place. Learn to count, Mr Perfect. Exactly what is FEMA doing? Again it is the US military to the rescue, flying in power company trucks from California (probably to be sure they are union). The navy is bringing in ships for logistic support and the national guard is doing what they always do in emergencies, backing up first responders.. Only crackers believe your anti-union bull**** paranoia. Prove it. The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops. Tell all of the National Guard units who went to war over the past decade that they are just auxiliary cops. The Navy is doing squat. No orders, no go. 20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than the entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship underway. Navy isn't needed. Not if they don't have the fuel to run the equipment. And it won't matter if the loader drivers are union or not. It does in New Jersey. http://blog.fema.gov/ |
Where is the media coverage?
In article ,
says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of people who ignored the evacuation order. NOLA was levee failure. No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge. Get used to it. When you build at or below sea-level you are just one wave away from a disaster. They also seemed to ignore the warnings about having several days of supplies and a hurricane kit with flashlights and other tools they need. Some guy was selling flashlights for $20. We also see FEMA still takes over a week to actually do anything of consequence in spite of white victims, 8 years of reforms and a democratic president. Storm came Tuesday. This is Friday. FEMA is all over the place. Learn to count, Mr Perfect. Exactly what is FEMA doing? Again it is the US military to the rescue, flying in power company trucks from California (probably to be sure they are union). The navy is bringing in ships for logistic support and the national guard is doing what they always do in emergencies, backing up first responders.. Only crackers believe your anti-union bull**** paranoia. Prove it. The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops. Tell all of the National Guard units who went to war over the past decade that they are just auxiliary cops. The Navy is doing squat. No orders, no go. 20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than the entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship underway. Navy isn't needed. Not if they don't have the fuel to run the equipment. And it won't matter if the loader drivers are union or not. It does in New Jersey. http://blog.fema.gov/ FEMA can make all the statements it wants, it doesn't change the fact that New Jersey threw out power line workers by unions. |
Where is the media coverage?
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On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 10:26:05 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Exactly what is FEMA doing? http://blog.fema.gov/ Yup they are all over the place, having people fill out applications, showing picture IDs and other government red tape. "... to make an appointment to visit your property within 14 days after you apply. " Brownie got in trouble because FEMA was not in NOLA the next day with food, ice and water. Where is FEMA's food and water? Here? http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/2012...sing-residents -- Sent from my iPhone 5 |
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 15:47:02 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 13:53:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:40:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: http://tinyurl.com/aad8ma4 Notice this part: There was little sign of a crime wave, although police made multiple arrests in the city Monday and Tuesday, officials said. Charges included burglary, criminal mischief and trespassing. In one incident, three men were arrested on burglary charges after they struck a Radio Shack in Rockaway Beach, Queens, on Tuesday morning. Bloomberg promised "a very heavy police presence" in the darkened neighborhoods, which include much of Manhattan south of the Empire State Building, from the East River to the Hudson River. Even outside the blackout areas, police deployed vans and patrol cars with their roof lights on, along with officers on the streets in a robust show of force. NOTHING like the debacle that was New Orleans. To start with the NYPD is not nearly as corrupt as the NOLA police was. This is true. But that was only part of the problem. True. The corruption started with the governor herself, and worked its way all down the line. So you don't think the robbers, killers, burglars, etc. had any hand in anything eh? That sounds very Harryesque. They simply followed the example of those in leadership positions. You should know that, Kevin. |
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:30:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of people who ignored the evacuation order. NOLA was levee failure. No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge. Get used to it. They also seemed to ignore the warnings about having several days of supplies and a hurricane kit with flashlights and other tools they need. Some guy was selling flashlights for $20. We also see FEMA still takes over a week to actually do anything of consequence in spite of white victims, 8 years of reforms and a democratic president. Storm came Tuesday. This is Friday. FEMA is all over the place. Learn to count, Mr Perfect. Again it is the US military to the rescue, flying in power company trucks from California (probably to be sure they are union). The navy is bringing in ships for logistic support and the national guard is doing what they always do in emergencies, backing up first responders.. Only crackers believe your anti-union bull**** paranoia. Prove it. The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops. The above sentence is a good example of your lack of knowledge about the National Guard. The Navy is doing squat. 20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than the entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship underway. Navy isn't needed. And it won't matter if the loader drivers are union or not. |
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On 11/3/2012 11:25 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 10:26:05 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Exactly what is FEMA doing? http://blog.fema.gov/ Yup they are all over the place, having people fill out applications, showing picture IDs and other government red tape. "... to make an appointment to visit your property within 14 days after you apply. " Brownie got in trouble because FEMA was not in NOLA the next day with food, ice and water. Where is FEMA's food and water? I know a lot of people down there and there is nothing... They are still walking too because of trees and wires. There are sections of the city where search and recovery efforts haven't even begun yet, the locals say the death toll is gonna' go up fast when the FD and FEMA get in there... |
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On 11/3/2012 11:31 AM, harry wrote:
wrote: On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 10:26:05 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Exactly what is FEMA doing? http://blog.fema.gov/ Yup they are all over the place, having people fill out applications, showing picture IDs and other government red tape. "... to make an appointment to visit your property within 14 days after you apply. " Brownie got in trouble because FEMA was not in NOLA the next day with food, ice and water. Where is FEMA's food and water? Here? http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/2012...sing-residents Well, this will be the last post I see of yours because I know how you are, but I know real people down there, and the help is not there.. period... |
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On 11/3/2012 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:30:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of people who ignored the evacuation order. NOLA was levee failure. No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge. Get used to it. Bull**** The current FEMA rules are you can't build below sea level Yet they allowed them to do it there again, just setting the taxpayers up for another fall. They also seemed to ignore the warnings about having several days of supplies and a hurricane kit with flashlights and other tools they need. Some guy was selling flashlights for $20. We also see FEMA still takes over a week to actually do anything of consequence in spite of white victims, 8 years of reforms and a democratic president. Storm came Tuesday. This is Friday. FEMA is all over the place. Learn to count, Mr Perfect. They don't seem to be in Staten Island. What are they doing "all over the place", actually providing some kind of relief or just looking? FEMA is nowhere.. I don't know one person who has actually found a truck yet.. They just keep getting the run around and waling from "false alarm" to false alarm and getting excuses... These folks are literally dehydrating from lack of food and water in some areas still. |
Where is the media coverage?
In article ,
says... On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:30:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of people who ignored the evacuation order. NOLA was levee failure. No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge. Get used to it. Bull**** The current FEMA rules are you can't build below sea level Yet they allowed them to do it there again, just setting the taxpayers up for another fall. You can talk about NOLA all you want. That was a levee failure. I'm talking about Sandy. Staten Island is above sea level, and no ****ing building code - except requiring stilting or concrete bunker construction - would have saved those buildings from the storm surge. And despite your saying "be prepared, because it happens all the time," the Sandy storm surge MADE HISTORY. http://seaandskyny.com/ So the bottom line is ANY community close to an ocean and not elevated sufficiently can suffer a disastrous storm surge. Or a Tsunami. Nobody will prepare for a +300 year event like you want them too. Florida codes don't protect from a strong cat 5, they just anticipate what's fairly common there. So your suggestion that Florida building codes be de rigueur elsewhere is flat wrong. They don't seem to be in Staten Island. What are they doing "all over the place", actually providing some kind of relief or just looking? Find out yourself. It's easy enough. Don't get all jacked up when you post non-fact and it gets challenged. BTW, FEMA is for when building codes don't work. Otherwise we wouldn't need it. We could just huddle inside our bunkers until the storm passes. |
Where is the media coverage?
On 11/3/2012 12:04 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:30:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of people who ignored the evacuation order. NOLA was levee failure. No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge. Get used to it. Bull**** The current FEMA rules are you can't build below sea level Yet they allowed them to do it there again, just setting the taxpayers up for another fall. You can talk about NOLA all you want. That was a levee failure. I'm talking about Sandy. Staten Island is above sea level, and no ****ing building code - except requiring stilting or concrete bunker construction - would have saved those buildings from the storm surge. And despite your saying "be prepared, because it happens all the time," the Sandy storm surge MADE HISTORY. http://seaandskyny.com/ So the bottom line is ANY community close to an ocean and not elevated sufficiently can suffer a disastrous storm surge. Or a Tsunami. Nobody will prepare for a +300 year event like you want them too. Florida codes don't protect from a strong cat 5, they just anticipate what's fairly common there. So your suggestion that Florida building codes be de rigueur elsewhere is flat wrong. They don't seem to be in Staten Island. What are they doing "all over the place", actually providing some kind of relief or just looking? Find out yourself. You don't know what you are talking about. Folks who base their judgements solely on political finger in the wind, are easy to spot here. I have dozens of friends "down there" right frekin' now. I don't have to "find out for myself" and neither does Greg, all he has to do is listen.. .... you are not gonna' get this stuff from Cobert or Stewart... It's easy enough. Don't get all jacked up when you post non-fact and it gets challenged. BTW, FEMA is for when building codes don't work. Otherwise we wouldn't need it. We could just huddle inside our bunkers until the storm passes. |
Where is the media coverage?
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says... wrote: On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 10:26:05 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Exactly what is FEMA doing? http://blog.fema.gov/ Yup they are all over the place, having people fill out applications, showing picture IDs and other government red tape. "... to make an appointment to visit your property within 14 days after you apply. " Brownie got in trouble because FEMA was not in NOLA the next day with food, ice and water. Where is FEMA's food and water? Here? http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/2012...sing-residents That's all phony stuff. The wackos here deny it. Even Greg got caught up in the insanity. Too bad. I've even seen some of the wackos claim the Nat Guard doesn't do cop duty in disasters and riots. We know better. I've actually seen that in action. Feels okay to me. It's better to know what you're dealing with, so it's all good. |
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