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BAR[_2_] November 3rd 12 02:37 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
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There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building
code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of
people who ignored the evacuation order.

NOLA was levee failure.
No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge.
Get used to it.


When you build at or below sea-level you are just one wave away from a
disaster.

They also seemed to ignore the warnings about having several days of
supplies and a hurricane kit with flashlights and other tools they
need. Some guy was selling flashlights for $20.
We also see FEMA still takes over a week to actually do anything of
consequence in spite of white victims, 8 years of reforms and a
democratic president.


Storm came Tuesday. This is Friday. FEMA is all over the place.
Learn to count, Mr Perfect.


Exactly what is FEMA doing?


Again it is the US military to the rescue, flying in power company
trucks from California (probably to be sure they are union). The navy
is bringing in ships for logistic support and the national guard is
doing what they always do in emergencies, backing up first
responders..

Only crackers believe your anti-union bull**** paranoia.
Prove it.
The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops.


Tell all of the National Guard units who went to war over the past
decade that they are just auxiliary cops.

The Navy is doing squat.


No orders, no go.

20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than the
entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship
underway. Navy isn't needed.


Not if they don't have the fuel to run the equipment.

And it won't matter if the loader drivers are union or not.


It does in New Jersey.


http://blog.fema.gov/


FEMA can make all the statements it wants, it doesn't change the fact
that New Jersey threw out power line workers by unions.



harry November 3rd 12 03:31 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
wrote:
On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 10:26:05 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...


Exactly what is FEMA doing?



http://blog.fema.gov/

Yup they are all over the place, having people fill out applications,
showing picture IDs and other government red tape.

"... to make an appointment to visit your property within 14 days
after you apply. "

Brownie got in trouble because FEMA was not in NOLA the next day with
food, ice and water. Where is FEMA's food and water?


Here?

http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/2012...sing-residents

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GuzzisRule November 3rd 12 03:40 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 15:47:02 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 13:53:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:40:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/aad8ma4

Notice this part:

There was little sign of a crime wave, although police made multiple
arrests in the city Monday and Tuesday, officials said. Charges included
burglary, criminal mischief and trespassing. In one incident, three men
were arrested on burglary charges after they struck a Radio Shack in
Rockaway Beach, Queens, on Tuesday morning.

Bloomberg promised "a very heavy police presence" in the darkened
neighborhoods, which include much of Manhattan south of the Empire State
Building, from the East River to the Hudson River. Even outside the
blackout areas, police deployed vans and patrol cars with their roof
lights on, along with officers on the streets in a robust show of force.

NOTHING like the debacle that was New Orleans.

To start with the NYPD is not nearly as corrupt as the NOLA police
was.

This is true. But that was only part of the problem.


True. The corruption started with the governor herself, and worked its way all down the line.


So you don't think the robbers, killers, burglars, etc. had any hand in
anything eh? That sounds very Harryesque.


They simply followed the example of those in leadership positions. You should know that, Kevin.

GuzzisRule November 3rd 12 03:43 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:30:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...

There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building
code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of
people who ignored the evacuation order.


NOLA was levee failure.
No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge.
Get used to it.

They also seemed to ignore the warnings about having several days of
supplies and a hurricane kit with flashlights and other tools they
need. Some guy was selling flashlights for $20.
We also see FEMA still takes over a week to actually do anything of
consequence in spite of white victims, 8 years of reforms and a
democratic president.


Storm came Tuesday. This is Friday. FEMA is all over the place.
Learn to count, Mr Perfect.

Again it is the US military to the rescue, flying in power company
trucks from California (probably to be sure they are union). The navy
is bringing in ships for logistic support and the national guard is
doing what they always do in emergencies, backing up first
responders..


Only crackers believe your anti-union bull**** paranoia.
Prove it.
The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops.


The above sentence is a good example of your lack of knowledge about the National Guard.


The Navy is doing squat.
20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than the
entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship
underway. Navy isn't needed.
And it won't matter if the loader drivers are union or not.


JustWait[_2_] November 3rd 12 03:47 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
On 11/3/2012 11:25 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 10:26:05 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,

says...


Exactly what is FEMA doing?



http://blog.fema.gov/

Yup they are all over the place, having people fill out applications,
showing picture IDs and other government red tape.

"... to make an appointment to visit your property within 14 days
after you apply. "

Brownie got in trouble because FEMA was not in NOLA the next day with
food, ice and water. Where is FEMA's food and water?


I know a lot of people down there and there is nothing... They are still
walking too because of trees and wires. There are sections of the city
where search and recovery efforts haven't even begun yet, the locals say
the death toll is gonna' go up fast when the FD and FEMA get in there...

JustWait[_2_] November 3rd 12 03:48 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
On 11/3/2012 11:31 AM, harry wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 10:26:05 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...


Exactly what is FEMA doing?



http://blog.fema.gov/

Yup they are all over the place, having people fill out applications,
showing picture IDs and other government red tape.

"... to make an appointment to visit your property within 14 days
after you apply. "

Brownie got in trouble because FEMA was not in NOLA the next day with
food, ice and water. Where is FEMA's food and water?


Here?

http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/2012...sing-residents



Well, this will be the last post I see of yours because I know how you
are, but I know real people down there, and the help is not there..
period...

JustWait[_2_] November 3rd 12 03:49 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
On 11/3/2012 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:30:02 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building
code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of
people who ignored the evacuation order.


NOLA was levee failure.
No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge.
Get used to it.


Bull**** The current FEMA rules are you can't build below sea level
Yet they allowed them to do it there again, just setting the taxpayers
up for another fall.


They also seemed to ignore the warnings about having several days of
supplies and a hurricane kit with flashlights and other tools they
need. Some guy was selling flashlights for $20.
We also see FEMA still takes over a week to actually do anything of
consequence in spite of white victims, 8 years of reforms and a
democratic president.


Storm came Tuesday. This is Friday. FEMA is all over the place.
Learn to count, Mr Perfect.


They don't seem to be in Staten Island. What are they doing "all over
the place", actually providing some kind of relief or just looking?



FEMA is nowhere.. I don't know one person who has actually found a truck
yet.. They just keep getting the run around and waling from "false
alarm" to false alarm and getting excuses... These folks are literally
dehydrating from lack of food and water in some areas still.

Boating All Out November 3rd 12 04:04 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:30:02 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building
code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of
people who ignored the evacuation order.


NOLA was levee failure.
No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge.
Get used to it.


Bull**** The current FEMA rules are you can't build below sea level
Yet they allowed them to do it there again, just setting the taxpayers
up for another fall.


You can talk about NOLA all you want. That was a levee failure.
I'm talking about Sandy.
Staten Island is above sea level, and no ****ing building code - except
requiring stilting or concrete bunker construction - would have saved
those buildings from the storm surge.
And despite your saying "be prepared, because it happens all the time,"
the Sandy storm surge MADE HISTORY.
http://seaandskyny.com/
So the bottom line is ANY community close to an ocean and not elevated
sufficiently can suffer a disastrous storm surge.
Or a Tsunami.
Nobody will prepare for a +300 year event like you want them too.
Florida codes don't protect from a strong cat 5, they just anticipate
what's fairly common there.
So your suggestion that Florida building codes be de rigueur elsewhere
is flat wrong.


They don't seem to be in Staten Island. What are they doing "all over
the place", actually providing some kind of relief or just looking?


Find out yourself. It's easy enough. Don't get all jacked up when you
post non-fact and it gets challenged.
BTW, FEMA is for when building codes don't work. Otherwise we wouldn't
need it. We could just huddle inside our bunkers until the storm
passes.

JustWait[_2_] November 3rd 12 04:06 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
On 11/3/2012 12:04 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:30:02 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building
code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of
people who ignored the evacuation order.

NOLA was levee failure.
No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge.
Get used to it.


Bull**** The current FEMA rules are you can't build below sea level
Yet they allowed them to do it there again, just setting the taxpayers
up for another fall.


You can talk about NOLA all you want. That was a levee failure.
I'm talking about Sandy.
Staten Island is above sea level, and no ****ing building code - except
requiring stilting or concrete bunker construction - would have saved
those buildings from the storm surge.
And despite your saying "be prepared, because it happens all the time,"
the Sandy storm surge MADE HISTORY.
http://seaandskyny.com/
So the bottom line is ANY community close to an ocean and not elevated
sufficiently can suffer a disastrous storm surge.
Or a Tsunami.
Nobody will prepare for a +300 year event like you want them too.
Florida codes don't protect from a strong cat 5, they just anticipate
what's fairly common there.
So your suggestion that Florida building codes be de rigueur elsewhere
is flat wrong.


They don't seem to be in Staten Island. What are they doing "all over
the place", actually providing some kind of relief or just looking?


Find out yourself.



You don't know what you are talking about. Folks who base their
judgements solely on political finger in the wind, are easy to spot
here. I have dozens of friends "down there" right frekin' now. I don't
have to "find out for myself" and neither does Greg, all he has to do is
listen..

.... you are not gonna' get this stuff from Cobert or Stewart...
It's easy enough. Don't get all jacked up when you
post non-fact and it gets challenged.
BTW, FEMA is for when building codes don't work. Otherwise we wouldn't
need it. We could just huddle inside our bunkers until the storm
passes.



Boating All Out November 3rd 12 04:14 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
In article ,
says...

wrote:
On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 10:26:05 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,

says...


Exactly what is FEMA doing?



http://blog.fema.gov/

Yup they are all over the place, having people fill out applications,
showing picture IDs and other government red tape.

"... to make an appointment to visit your property within 14 days
after you apply. "

Brownie got in trouble because FEMA was not in NOLA the next day with
food, ice and water. Where is FEMA's food and water?


Here?

http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/2012...sing-residents


That's all phony stuff. The wackos here deny it.
Even Greg got caught up in the insanity. Too bad.
I've even seen some of the wackos claim the Nat Guard doesn't do cop
duty in disasters and riots. We know better. I've actually seen that
in action. Feels okay to me.
It's better to know what you're dealing with, so it's all good.


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