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iBoaterer[_2_] November 2nd 12 05:53 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:40:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/aad8ma4

Notice this part:

There was little sign of a crime wave, although police made multiple
arrests in the city Monday and Tuesday, officials said. Charges included
burglary, criminal mischief and trespassing. In one incident, three men
were arrested on burglary charges after they struck a Radio Shack in
Rockaway Beach, Queens, on Tuesday morning.

Bloomberg promised "a very heavy police presence" in the darkened
neighborhoods, which include much of Manhattan south of the Empire State
Building, from the East River to the Hudson River. Even outside the
blackout areas, police deployed vans and patrol cars with their roof
lights on, along with officers on the streets in a robust show of force.

NOTHING like the debacle that was New Orleans.


To start with the NYPD is not nearly as corrupt as the NOLA police
was.


This is true. But that was only part of the problem.

GuzzisRule November 2nd 12 07:01 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 13:53:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:40:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/aad8ma4

Notice this part:

There was little sign of a crime wave, although police made multiple
arrests in the city Monday and Tuesday, officials said. Charges included
burglary, criminal mischief and trespassing. In one incident, three men
were arrested on burglary charges after they struck a Radio Shack in
Rockaway Beach, Queens, on Tuesday morning.

Bloomberg promised "a very heavy police presence" in the darkened
neighborhoods, which include much of Manhattan south of the Empire State
Building, from the East River to the Hudson River. Even outside the
blackout areas, police deployed vans and patrol cars with their roof
lights on, along with officers on the streets in a robust show of force.

NOTHING like the debacle that was New Orleans.


To start with the NYPD is not nearly as corrupt as the NOLA police
was.


This is true. But that was only part of the problem.


True. The corruption started with the governor herself, and worked its way all down the line.

iBoaterer[_2_] November 2nd 12 07:47 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 13:53:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:40:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/aad8ma4

Notice this part:

There was little sign of a crime wave, although police made multiple
arrests in the city Monday and Tuesday, officials said. Charges included
burglary, criminal mischief and trespassing. In one incident, three men
were arrested on burglary charges after they struck a Radio Shack in
Rockaway Beach, Queens, on Tuesday morning.

Bloomberg promised "a very heavy police presence" in the darkened
neighborhoods, which include much of Manhattan south of the Empire State
Building, from the East River to the Hudson River. Even outside the
blackout areas, police deployed vans and patrol cars with their roof
lights on, along with officers on the streets in a robust show of force.

NOTHING like the debacle that was New Orleans.

To start with the NYPD is not nearly as corrupt as the NOLA police
was.


This is true. But that was only part of the problem.


True. The corruption started with the governor herself, and worked its way all down the line.


So you don't think the robbers, killers, burglars, etc. had any hand in
anything eh? That sounds very Harryesque.

Boating All Out November 2nd 12 11:30 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
In article ,
says...

There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building
code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of
people who ignored the evacuation order.


NOLA was levee failure.
No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge.
Get used to it.

They also seemed to ignore the warnings about having several days of
supplies and a hurricane kit with flashlights and other tools they
need. Some guy was selling flashlights for $20.
We also see FEMA still takes over a week to actually do anything of
consequence in spite of white victims, 8 years of reforms and a
democratic president.


Storm came Tuesday. This is Friday. FEMA is all over the place.
Learn to count, Mr Perfect.

Again it is the US military to the rescue, flying in power company
trucks from California (probably to be sure they are union). The navy
is bringing in ships for logistic support and the national guard is
doing what they always do in emergencies, backing up first
responders..


Only crackers believe your anti-union bull**** paranoia.
Prove it.
The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops.
The Navy is doing squat.
20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than the
entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship
underway. Navy isn't needed.
And it won't matter if the loader drivers are union or not.



Eisboch[_8_] November 3rd 12 12:26 AM

Where is the media coverage?
 


"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops.
The Navy is doing squat.
20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than
the
entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship
underway. Navy isn't needed.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Here's a short list of US Navy participation in providing help and aid
immediately following Katrina:

- More than 9,790 Americas were rescued or evacuated by the 50+ Navy
aircraft from deployed ships, as well as NAS Pensacola and Atlanta.
- 17 Navy ships on station including Iwo Jima, Bataan and USNS
Comfort, which treated 1,000 patients.
- More than 3,400 Seabees deployed to the region and helped clearing
roads, disposing of debris and building shelters.
- Ship’s small boats alone performed 380 evacuations, 28 MEDEVACS and
six rescues.
- They delivered 68,900 pound of food and 113,000 pounds of water.
-Onboard aircraft flew 1,730 sorties.
- The Navy took care of the more than 800 Navy families who lost
everything.

All that within a few days.





Boating All Out November 3rd 12 01:11 AM

Where is the media coverage?
 
In article ,
says...

"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops.
The Navy is doing squat.
20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than
the
entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship
underway. Navy isn't needed.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Here's a short list of US Navy participation in providing help and aid
immediately following Katrina:

- More than 9,790 Americas were rescued or evacuated by the 50+ Navy
aircraft from deployed ships, as well as NAS Pensacola and Atlanta.
- 17 Navy ships on station including Iwo Jima, Bataan and USNS
Comfort, which treated 1,000 patients.
- More than 3,400 Seabees deployed to the region and helped clearing
roads, disposing of debris and building shelters.
- Ship?s small boats alone performed 380 evacuations, 28 MEDEVACS and
six rescues.
- They delivered 68,900 pound of food and 113,000 pounds of water.
-Onboard aircraft flew 1,730 sorties.
- The Navy took care of the more than 800 Navy families who lost
everything.

All that within a few days.


Sandy, not Katrina. NY/NJ isn't a 3rd-world environment.
Navy isn't evacuating anybody or providing any medical care.
Locals have all that under control.
Maybe the Seebees can help clear debris - if they ever get there.
Not knocking the Navy. It's a different disaster. Any help they can
provide will be welcomed. But nobody's stranded on rooftops.
Here's the Navy role in Sandy relief efforts straight from the horse's
mouth.
http://navylive.dodlive.mil/2012/10/...-sandy-update/

Eisboch[_8_] November 3rd 12 01:29 AM

Where is the media coverage?
 


"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops.
The Navy is doing squat.
20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than
the
entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship
underway. Navy isn't needed.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Here's a short list of US Navy participation in providing help and
aid
immediately following Katrina:

- More than 9,790 Americas were rescued or evacuated by the 50+ Navy
aircraft from deployed ships, as well as NAS Pensacola and Atlanta.
- 17 Navy ships on station including Iwo Jima, Bataan and USNS
Comfort, which treated 1,000 patients.
- More than 3,400 Seabees deployed to the region and helped clearing
roads, disposing of debris and building shelters.
- Ship?s small boats alone performed 380 evacuations, 28 MEDEVACS
and
six rescues.
- They delivered 68,900 pound of food and 113,000 pounds of water.
-Onboard aircraft flew 1,730 sorties.
- The Navy took care of the more than 800 Navy families who lost
everything.

All that within a few days.


Sandy, not Katrina. NY/NJ isn't a 3rd-world environment.
Navy isn't evacuating anybody or providing any medical care.
Locals have all that under control.
Maybe the Seebees can help clear debris - if they ever get there.
Not knocking the Navy. It's a different disaster. Any help they can
provide will be welcomed. But nobody's stranded on rooftops.
Here's the Navy role in Sandy relief efforts straight from the horse's
mouth.
http://navylive.dodlive.mil/2012/10/...-sandy-update/

--------------------------------------------------

The Navy operates under orders from the Chief of Naval Operations who
receives his marching orders from the Commander in Chief.
The important part of your link with regard to Sandy is:

" Right now, the only official tasking the Navy has received is ....."

Granted, the role of the US Navy is not primarily for disaster relief
and assistance, but it has made serious contributions, both here at
home and to other countries over the years, as has the other branches
of the US military.




BAR[_2_] November 3rd 12 02:00 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building
code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of
people who ignored the evacuation order.


NOLA was levee failure.
No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge.
Get used to it.


When you build at or below sea-level you are just one wave away from a
disaster.

They also seemed to ignore the warnings about having several days of
supplies and a hurricane kit with flashlights and other tools they
need. Some guy was selling flashlights for $20.
We also see FEMA still takes over a week to actually do anything of
consequence in spite of white victims, 8 years of reforms and a
democratic president.


Storm came Tuesday. This is Friday. FEMA is all over the place.
Learn to count, Mr Perfect.


Exactly what is FEMA doing?


Again it is the US military to the rescue, flying in power company
trucks from California (probably to be sure they are union). The navy
is bringing in ships for logistic support and the national guard is
doing what they always do in emergencies, backing up first
responders..


Only crackers believe your anti-union bull**** paranoia.
Prove it.
The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops.


Tell all of the National Guard units who went to war over the past
decade that they are just auxiliary cops.

The Navy is doing squat.


No orders, no go.

20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than the
entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship
underway. Navy isn't needed.


Not if they don't have the fuel to run the equipment.

And it won't matter if the loader drivers are union or not.


It does in New Jersey.



iBoaterer[_2_] November 3rd 12 02:23 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building
code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of
people who ignored the evacuation order.


NOLA was levee failure.
No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge.
Get used to it.

They also seemed to ignore the warnings about having several days of
supplies and a hurricane kit with flashlights and other tools they
need. Some guy was selling flashlights for $20.
We also see FEMA still takes over a week to actually do anything of
consequence in spite of white victims, 8 years of reforms and a
democratic president.


Storm came Tuesday. This is Friday. FEMA is all over the place.
Learn to count, Mr Perfect.

Again it is the US military to the rescue, flying in power company
trucks from California (probably to be sure they are union). The navy
is bringing in ships for logistic support and the national guard is
doing what they always do in emergencies, backing up first
responders..


Only crackers believe your anti-union bull**** paranoia.
Prove it.
The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops.
The Navy is doing squat.
20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than the
entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship
underway. Navy isn't needed.
And it won't matter if the loader drivers are union or not.


But all that you say is logical! The righties here are completely
illogical in their thinking. It's insanity.

iBoaterer[_2_] November 3rd 12 02:26 PM

Where is the media coverage?
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

There are still a lot of parallels. You have an inadequate building
code with houses that were not up to the weather and thousands of
people who ignored the evacuation order.


NOLA was levee failure.
No code protects a house from 8 feet of rushing storm surge.
Get used to it.


When you build at or below sea-level you are just one wave away from a
disaster.

They also seemed to ignore the warnings about having several days of
supplies and a hurricane kit with flashlights and other tools they
need. Some guy was selling flashlights for $20.
We also see FEMA still takes over a week to actually do anything of
consequence in spite of white victims, 8 years of reforms and a
democratic president.


Storm came Tuesday. This is Friday. FEMA is all over the place.
Learn to count, Mr Perfect.


Exactly what is FEMA doing?


Again it is the US military to the rescue, flying in power company
trucks from California (probably to be sure they are union). The navy
is bringing in ships for logistic support and the national guard is
doing what they always do in emergencies, backing up first
responders..


Only crackers believe your anti-union bull**** paranoia.
Prove it.
The Nat Guard always provides help. They are auxiliary cops.


Tell all of the National Guard units who went to war over the past
decade that they are just auxiliary cops.

The Navy is doing squat.


No orders, no go.

20 guys with front end loaders can do more good clearing roads than the
entire Navy, and they'll do it before the Navy gets a single ship
underway. Navy isn't needed.


Not if they don't have the fuel to run the equipment.

And it won't matter if the loader drivers are union or not.


It does in New Jersey.


http://blog.fema.gov/



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