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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:25:51 -0400, Meyer wrote:
On 10/8/2012 8:28 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:14:29 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:45:17 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 18:35:27 -0400, GuzzisRule wrote: Still thinking about the Sig Sauer P226. This one, with a conversion kit: http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProdu...lassic-22.aspx Good idea, huh? === It depends on what you are looking for: Carry gun; home defense or target practice/competition. You really need to think that through because no one gun is ideal for more than one category. The P226 is. Small enough to carry, sizeable enough for home defense, and with the .22 conversion kit, cheap enough for target practice. The big question would be which conversion kit to buy. "...SIG SAUER X-CHANGE Kit™ is the perfect accessory for your SIG SAUER Classic .22 rimfire pistols. Now shooters can add SIG SAUER centerfire performance with just the change out of the slide assembly, barrel, recoil system, and magazine to any of the standard production pistol calibers; 9mm, .40 S&W, and .357SIG. Exchanging components does not alter the reliability or accuracy of either assembly." ----------------------------------------------- After many years of thinking about it, I recently completed the required safety course, necessary applications and am awaiting issuance of a MA LTC "A" permit. While I wait, I am researching potential pistols and/or revolvers. I want to buy new, so I am limited to MA Compliant versions. I'd like to have a .22 ... mainly for inexpensive target practice but I'd also like a 9mm or .40 cal as well. I looked at the Sig Sauer P226. The standard version *is* MA compliant and is available in 9mm, .357 Sig and .40 S&W calibers, but no .22 cal. The one with the .22 conversion kit that you provided a link to is nice, but for some reason is *not* MA compliant. Don't understand why not. Good question. Worthy of a call to Sig Sauer. I wonder if buying a .40 caliber, which is MA compliant (whatever that is), and then buying the .22 conversion kit would solve the problem. http://www.sigsauer.com/SigStore/22-...n-kit-266.aspx I wonder if you guys have looked at the demure Kahr PM9 or even Ruger's LC9. Both smaller than what I'm looking for. Plus, I'd have to buy two of them to get the advantage of the Sig Sauer. |
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On 10/8/2012 9:40 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:25:51 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 10/8/2012 8:28 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:14:29 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:45:17 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 18:35:27 -0400, GuzzisRule wrote: Still thinking about the Sig Sauer P226. This one, with a conversion kit: http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProdu...lassic-22.aspx Good idea, huh? === It depends on what you are looking for: Carry gun; home defense or target practice/competition. You really need to think that through because no one gun is ideal for more than one category. The P226 is. Small enough to carry, sizeable enough for home defense, and with the .22 conversion kit, cheap enough for target practice. The big question would be which conversion kit to buy. "...SIG SAUER X-CHANGE Kit™ is the perfect accessory for your SIG SAUER Classic .22 rimfire pistols. Now shooters can add SIG SAUER centerfire performance with just the change out of the slide assembly, barrel, recoil system, and magazine to any of the standard production pistol calibers; 9mm, .40 S&W, and .357SIG. Exchanging components does not alter the reliability or accuracy of either assembly." ----------------------------------------------- After many years of thinking about it, I recently completed the required safety course, necessary applications and am awaiting issuance of a MA LTC "A" permit. While I wait, I am researching potential pistols and/or revolvers. I want to buy new, so I am limited to MA Compliant versions. I'd like to have a .22 ... mainly for inexpensive target practice but I'd also like a 9mm or .40 cal as well. I looked at the Sig Sauer P226. The standard version *is* MA compliant and is available in 9mm, .357 Sig and .40 S&W calibers, but no .22 cal. The one with the .22 conversion kit that you provided a link to is nice, but for some reason is *not* MA compliant. Don't understand why not. Good question. Worthy of a call to Sig Sauer. I wonder if buying a .40 caliber, which is MA compliant (whatever that is), and then buying the .22 conversion kit would solve the problem. http://www.sigsauer.com/SigStore/22-...n-kit-266.aspx I wonder if you guys have looked at the demure Kahr PM9 or even Ruger's LC9. Both smaller than what I'm looking for. Plus, I'd have to buy two of them to get the advantage of the Sig Sauer. Having a carry gun and a target 22 isn't necessarily a bad thing. Throw in a shotgun to round things out. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:46:25 -0400, Meyer wrote:
On 10/8/2012 9:40 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:25:51 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 10/8/2012 8:28 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:14:29 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:45:17 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 18:35:27 -0400, GuzzisRule wrote: Still thinking about the Sig Sauer P226. This one, with a conversion kit: http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProdu...lassic-22.aspx Good idea, huh? === It depends on what you are looking for: Carry gun; home defense or target practice/competition. You really need to think that through because no one gun is ideal for more than one category. The P226 is. Small enough to carry, sizeable enough for home defense, and with the .22 conversion kit, cheap enough for target practice. The big question would be which conversion kit to buy. "...SIG SAUER X-CHANGE Kit™ is the perfect accessory for your SIG SAUER Classic .22 rimfire pistols. Now shooters can add SIG SAUER centerfire performance with just the change out of the slide assembly, barrel, recoil system, and magazine to any of the standard production pistol calibers; 9mm, .40 S&W, and .357SIG. Exchanging components does not alter the reliability or accuracy of either assembly." ----------------------------------------------- After many years of thinking about it, I recently completed the required safety course, necessary applications and am awaiting issuance of a MA LTC "A" permit. While I wait, I am researching potential pistols and/or revolvers. I want to buy new, so I am limited to MA Compliant versions. I'd like to have a .22 ... mainly for inexpensive target practice but I'd also like a 9mm or .40 cal as well. I looked at the Sig Sauer P226. The standard version *is* MA compliant and is available in 9mm, .357 Sig and .40 S&W calibers, but no .22 cal. The one with the .22 conversion kit that you provided a link to is nice, but for some reason is *not* MA compliant. Don't understand why not. Good question. Worthy of a call to Sig Sauer. I wonder if buying a .40 caliber, which is MA compliant (whatever that is), and then buying the .22 conversion kit would solve the problem. http://www.sigsauer.com/SigStore/22-...n-kit-266.aspx I wonder if you guys have looked at the demure Kahr PM9 or even Ruger's LC9. Both smaller than what I'm looking for. Plus, I'd have to buy two of them to get the advantage of the Sig Sauer. Having a carry gun and a target 22 isn't necessarily a bad thing. Throw in a shotgun to round things out. I'm not looking for a carry gun. But, if I decide to carry, the Sig isn't all that heavy. Hell, I'm a pretty good sized guy. |
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On 10/8/2012 9:53 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:46:25 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 10/8/2012 9:40 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:25:51 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 10/8/2012 8:28 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:14:29 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:45:17 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 18:35:27 -0400, GuzzisRule wrote: Still thinking about the Sig Sauer P226. This one, with a conversion kit: http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProdu...lassic-22.aspx Good idea, huh? === It depends on what you are looking for: Carry gun; home defense or target practice/competition. You really need to think that through because no one gun is ideal for more than one category. The P226 is. Small enough to carry, sizeable enough for home defense, and with the .22 conversion kit, cheap enough for target practice. The big question would be which conversion kit to buy. "...SIG SAUER X-CHANGE Kit™ is the perfect accessory for your SIG SAUER Classic .22 rimfire pistols. Now shooters can add SIG SAUER centerfire performance with just the change out of the slide assembly, barrel, recoil system, and magazine to any of the standard production pistol calibers; 9mm, .40 S&W, and .357SIG. Exchanging components does not alter the reliability or accuracy of either assembly." ----------------------------------------------- After many years of thinking about it, I recently completed the required safety course, necessary applications and am awaiting issuance of a MA LTC "A" permit. While I wait, I am researching potential pistols and/or revolvers. I want to buy new, so I am limited to MA Compliant versions. I'd like to have a .22 ... mainly for inexpensive target practice but I'd also like a 9mm or .40 cal as well. I looked at the Sig Sauer P226. The standard version *is* MA compliant and is available in 9mm, .357 Sig and .40 S&W calibers, but no .22 cal. The one with the .22 conversion kit that you provided a link to is nice, but for some reason is *not* MA compliant. Don't understand why not. Good question. Worthy of a call to Sig Sauer. I wonder if buying a .40 caliber, which is MA compliant (whatever that is), and then buying the .22 conversion kit would solve the problem. http://www.sigsauer.com/SigStore/22-...n-kit-266.aspx I wonder if you guys have looked at the demure Kahr PM9 or even Ruger's LC9. Both smaller than what I'm looking for. Plus, I'd have to buy two of them to get the advantage of the Sig Sauer. Having a carry gun and a target 22 isn't necessarily a bad thing. Throw in a shotgun to round things out. I'm not looking for a carry gun. But, if I decide to carry, the Sig isn't all that heavy. Hell, I'm a pretty good sized guy. That changes the picture alltogether. You will probably go through a few guns before you settle on something you wouldn't trade for anything. |
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On Oct 9, 6:48*pm, BAR wrote:
In article om, says... On 10/8/2012 9:40 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:25:51 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 10/8/2012 8:28 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:14:29 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "GuzzisRule" *wrote in message m... On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:45:17 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 18:35:27 -0400, GuzzisRule wrote: Still thinking about the Sig Sauer P226. This one, with a conversion kit: http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProdu...lassic-22.aspx Good idea, huh? === It depends on what you are looking for: *Carry gun; home defense or target practice/competition. You really need to think that through because no one gun is ideal for more than one category. The P226 is. Small enough to carry, sizeable enough for home defense, and with the .22 conversion kit, cheap enough for target practice. The big question would be which conversion kit to buy. "...SIG SAUER X-CHANGE Kit? is the perfect accessory for your SIG SAUER Classic .22 rimfire pistols. Now shooters can add SIG SAUER centerfire performance with just the change out of the slide assembly, barrel, recoil system, and magazine to any of the standard production pistol calibers; 9mm, .40 S&W, and .357SIG. Exchanging components does not alter the reliability or accuracy of either assembly." ----------------------------------------------- After many years of thinking about it, *I recently completed the required safety course, necessary applications and am awaiting issuance of a MA LTC "A" permit. * While I wait, I am researching potential pistols and/or revolvers. *I want to buy new, so I am limited to MA Compliant versions. * I'd like to have a .22 *.... mainly for inexpensive target practice but I'd also like a 9mm or .40 cal *as well. I looked at the Sig Sauer P226. *The standard version *is* *MA compliant and is available in 9mm, .357 Sig and .40 S&W calibers, but no .22 cal. The one with the .22 conversion kit that you provided a link to is nice, but for some reason is *not* *MA compliant. * Don't understand why not. Good question. Worthy of a call to Sig Sauer. I wonder if buying a ..40 caliber, which is MA compliant (whatever that is), and then buying the .22 conversion kit would solve the problem. http://www.sigsauer.com/SigStore/22-...n-kit-266.aspx I wonder if you guys have looked at the demure Kahr PM9 or even Ruger's LC9. Both smaller than what I'm looking for. Plus, I'd have to buy two of them to get the advantage of the Sig Sauer. Having a carry gun and a target 22 isn't necessarily a bad thing. Throw in a shotgun to round things out. Using the same frame and trigger has its advantages when practicing and using for real. The weight and balance is the same, however, the recoil and recovery is quite different and needs to be taken into consideration when converting back to the origional caliber. |
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On 10/10/2012 2:22 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 9, 6:48 pm, BAR wrote: In article om, says... On 10/8/2012 9:40 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:25:51 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 10/8/2012 8:28 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:14:29 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "GuzzisRule" wrote in message ... On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:45:17 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 18:35:27 -0400, GuzzisRule wrote: Still thinking about the Sig Sauer P226. This one, with a conversion kit: http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProdu...lassic-22.aspx Good idea, huh? === It depends on what you are looking for: Carry gun; home defense or target practice/competition. You really need to think that through because no one gun is ideal for more than one category. The P226 is. Small enough to carry, sizeable enough for home defense, and with the .22 conversion kit, cheap enough for target practice. The big question would be which conversion kit to buy. "...SIG SAUER X-CHANGE Kit? is the perfect accessory for your SIG SAUER Classic .22 rimfire pistols. Now shooters can add SIG SAUER centerfire performance with just the change out of the slide assembly, barrel, recoil system, and magazine to any of the standard production pistol calibers; 9mm, .40 S&W, and .357SIG. Exchanging components does not alter the reliability or accuracy of either assembly." ----------------------------------------------- After many years of thinking about it, I recently completed the required safety course, necessary applications and am awaiting issuance of a MA LTC "A" permit. While I wait, I am researching potential pistols and/or revolvers. I want to buy new, so I am limited to MA Compliant versions. I'd like to have a .22 .... mainly for inexpensive target practice but I'd also like a 9mm or .40 cal as well. I looked at the Sig Sauer P226. The standard version *is* MA compliant and is available in 9mm, .357 Sig and .40 S&W calibers, but no .22 cal. The one with the .22 conversion kit that you provided a link to is nice, but for some reason is *not* MA compliant. Don't understand why not. Good question. Worthy of a call to Sig Sauer. I wonder if buying a ..40 caliber, which is MA compliant (whatever that is), and then buying the .22 conversion kit would solve the problem. http://www.sigsauer.com/SigStore/22-...n-kit-266.aspx I wonder if you guys have looked at the demure Kahr PM9 or even Ruger's LC9. Both smaller than what I'm looking for. Plus, I'd have to buy two of them to get the advantage of the Sig Sauer. Having a carry gun and a target 22 isn't necessarily a bad thing. Throw in a shotgun to round things out. Using the same frame and trigger has its advantages when practicing and using for real. The weight and balance is the same, however, the recoil and recovery is quite different and needs to be taken into consideration when converting back to the origional caliber. Are you sure about that Tim. I thought I read the 22 had an aluminumm slide. |
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On Oct 10, 7:44*am, Meyer wrote:
On 10/10/2012 2:22 AM, Tim wrote: On Oct 9, 6:48 pm, BAR wrote: In article om, says... On 10/8/2012 9:40 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:25:51 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 10/8/2012 8:28 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:14:29 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "GuzzisRule" *wrote in message news:8er27857idmgpvucbgk476rqqn1c8ptthv@4ax .com... On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:45:17 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 18:35:27 -0400, GuzzisRule wrote: Still thinking about the Sig Sauer P226. This one, with a conversion kit: http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProdu...lassic-22.aspx Good idea, huh? === It depends on what you are looking for: *Carry gun; home defense or target practice/competition. You really need to think that through because no one gun is ideal for more than one category. The P226 is. Small enough to carry, sizeable enough for home defense, and with the .22 conversion kit, cheap enough for target practice. The big question would be which conversion kit to buy. "...SIG SAUER X-CHANGE Kit? is the perfect accessory for your SIG SAUER Classic .22 rimfire pistols. Now shooters can add SIG SAUER centerfire performance with just the change out of the slide assembly, barrel, recoil system, and magazine to any of the standard production pistol calibers; 9mm, .40 S&W, and .357SIG. Exchanging components does not alter the reliability or accuracy of either assembly." ----------------------------------------------- After many years of thinking about it, *I recently completed the required safety course, necessary applications and am awaiting issuance of a MA LTC "A" permit. * While I wait, I am researching potential pistols and/or revolvers. *I want to buy new, so I am limited to MA Compliant versions. * I'd like to have a .22 *..... mainly for inexpensive target practice but I'd also like a 9mm or .40 cal *as well. I looked at the Sig Sauer P226. *The standard version *is* *MA compliant and is available in 9mm, .357 Sig and .40 S&W calibers, but no .22 cal. The one with the .22 conversion kit that you provided a link to is nice, but for some reason is *not* *MA compliant. * Don't understand why not. Good question. Worthy of a call to Sig Sauer. I wonder if buying a ..40 caliber, which is MA compliant (whatever that is), and then buying the .22 conversion kit would solve the problem. http://www.sigsauer.com/SigStore/22-...n-kit-266.aspx I wonder if you guys have looked at the demure Kahr PM9 or even Ruger's LC9. Both smaller than what I'm looking for. Plus, I'd have to buy two of them to get the advantage of the Sig Sauer. Having a carry gun and a target 22 isn't necessarily a bad thing. Throw in a shotgun to round things out. Using the same frame and trigger has its advantages when practicing and using for real. The weight and balance is the same, however, the recoil and recovery is quite different and needs to be taken into consideration when converting back to the origional caliber. Are you sure about that Tim. I thought I read the 22 had an aluminum slide. I can't state that for a *fact* but a .45 has a lot more - Way lot more kick than a .22. Even with an aluminum slide I doubt if the recoil would be compatible with a .45ACP with steel. |
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On Oct 10, 5:19*pm, Tim wrote:
On Oct 10, 7:44*am, Meyer wrote: On 10/10/2012 2:22 AM, Tim wrote: On Oct 9, 6:48 pm, BAR wrote: In article om, says... On 10/8/2012 9:40 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:25:51 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 10/8/2012 8:28 AM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:14:29 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "GuzzisRule" *wrote in message news:8er27857idmgpvucbgk476rqqn1c8ptthv@4ax .com... On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:45:17 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 18:35:27 -0400, GuzzisRule wrote: Still thinking about the Sig Sauer P226. This one, with a conversion kit: http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProdu...lassic-22.aspx Good idea, huh? === It depends on what you are looking for: *Carry gun; home defense or target practice/competition. You really need to think that through because no one gun is ideal for more than one category. The P226 is. Small enough to carry, sizeable enough for home defense, and with the .22 conversion kit, cheap enough for target practice. The big question would be which conversion kit to buy. "...SIG SAUER X-CHANGE Kit? is the perfect accessory for your SIG SAUER Classic .22 rimfire pistols. Now shooters can add SIG SAUER centerfire performance with just the change out of the slide assembly, barrel, recoil system, and magazine to any of the standard production pistol calibers; 9mm, .40 S&W, and .357SIG. Exchanging components does not alter the reliability or accuracy of either assembly." ----------------------------------------------- After many years of thinking about it, *I recently completed the required safety course, necessary applications and am awaiting issuance of a MA LTC "A" permit. * While I wait, I am researching potential pistols and/or revolvers. *I want to buy new, so I am limited to MA Compliant versions. * I'd like to have a .22 *.... mainly for inexpensive target practice but I'd also like a 9mm or .40 cal *as well. I looked at the Sig Sauer P226. *The standard version *is* *MA compliant and is available in 9mm, .357 Sig and .40 S&W calibers, but no .22 cal. The one with the .22 conversion kit that you provided a link to is nice, but for some reason is *not* *MA compliant. * Don't understand why not. Good question. Worthy of a call to Sig Sauer. I wonder if buying a ..40 caliber, which is MA compliant (whatever that is), and then buying the .22 conversion kit would solve the problem. http://www.sigsauer.com/SigStore/22-...n-kit-266.aspx I wonder if you guys have looked at the demure Kahr PM9 or even Ruger's LC9. Both smaller than what I'm looking for. Plus, I'd have to buy two of them to get the advantage of the Sig Sauer. Having a carry gun and a target 22 isn't necessarily a bad thing. Throw in a shotgun to round things out. Using the same frame and trigger has its advantages when practicing and using for real. The weight and balance is the same, however, the recoil and recovery is quite different and needs to be taken into consideration when converting back to the origional caliber. Are you sure about that Tim. I thought I read the 22 had an aluminum slide. I can't state that for a *fact* but a .45 has a lot more - Way lot more kick than a .22. * Even with an aluminum slide I doubt if the recoil would be compatible with a .45ACP with steel. In the 'Floridian Hospitality" thread, this was written.- 40. EmpacherFan View profile More options Oct 10, 8:44 am In article , says... On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:41:30 -0700, jps wrote: snippage Still thinking about the Sig Sauer P226. This one, with a conversion kit: http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProdu...lassic-22.aspx Good idea, huh? "...I carry for work, but not a SIG, usually a Glock 22 or a 1911, plus another handgun for backup. The Sig P226 is a nice pistol, though. I'm not sure what you are trying to gain by fitting it with a 22 slide and works. The recoil, muzzle flip and noise will be totally different between the two rounds and at distance at a target, so will the impact of gravity, so you won't be gaining the shooting skills you want with a 40,45 or even a 9 round in a defense pistol by running 22s through it. I've tried a few of these combos at the range. They were fun but shooting 22rounds isn't going to help you become proficient firing larger rounds in the same basic pistol..." |
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