On 8/10/12 12:47 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:18:15 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/10/12 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

Simple minded guy.

Get used to it. Lots of Gen X and millennial will be saying this when
the cost of those entitlements start showing up on their W-2

I am 51 and I have planned my retirement to not expect any government
handouts.


There's always the hope you'll be wiped out by more shenanigans on Wall
Street. Then you can start a new career as a Wal-Mart greeter, thus
proving the validity of the Peter Principle.

Harry, What's your plan, when the financial system crashes?
I bet your union pension is invested in Wall Street too.
Where are your personal investments?


Through several quirks of fate, I have very little of my retirement
income or assets in the "market." The defined benefit pension I have
from my nearly 40 years of union membership *is* decent and is at least
partially invested in the market, but the pension fund has diverse
holdings, and the last time I looked was worth substantially more than
it was during the Bush crash. I used to be a pension fund director and
when I was I kept a close watch because of my fiduciary liability, but I
(gladly) gave up that office when my last elected term was coming to a
close. The fund needed young blood. The fund's rules do not permit
unfunded liabilities, not even a dollar's worth.

I have a decent amount of cash at interest and in money market funds,
and I am a one-third partner in a nice, fully leased out strip shopping
mall in Connecticut. My two partners are two years older than I am, and
we are planning to sell the mall at some point in the not too distant
future. We all have adult children and young grandchildren, and all of
us are planning to leave most of what we have to them after our needs
and the needs of our spouses are met.

I'm "maxed" in the Social Security benefit.

When the financial system crashes, I'll probably be under ground. Until
then, I have the liquidity to survive and when we sell the mall, I'll
figure out the best way to keep my share of the resulting cash safe.

I don't trust Wall Street. Not any of it.



--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

On 8/10/12 1:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:18:15 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/10/12 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

Simple minded guy.

Get used to it. Lots of Gen X and millennial will be saying this when
the cost of those entitlements start showing up on their W-2

I am 51 and I have planned my retirement to not expect any government
handouts.


There's always the hope you'll be wiped out by more shenanigans on Wall
Street. Then you can start a new career as a Wal-Mart greeter, thus
proving the validity of the Peter Principle.

Harry, What's your plan, when the financial system crashes?
I bet your union pension is invested in Wall Street too.
Where are your personal investments?

What amazes me is that Harry out of one side of his mouth acts like he
is for the little man, the working class if it were. Then on the other
side, he constantly insults those who ARE the working class.



I treat people how they deserve to be treated, little ****.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

On 8/10/2012 1:16 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 8/10/12 1:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:18:15 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/10/12 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

Simple minded guy.

Get used to it. Lots of Gen X and millennial will be saying this when
the cost of those entitlements start showing up on their W-2

I am 51 and I have planned my retirement to not expect any government
handouts.


There's always the hope you'll be wiped out by more shenanigans on Wall
Street. Then you can start a new career as a Wal-Mart greeter, thus
proving the validity of the Peter Principle.

Harry, What's your plan, when the financial system crashes?
I bet your union pension is invested in Wall Street too.
Where are your personal investments?

What amazes me is that Harry out of one side of his mouth acts like he
is for the little man, the working class if it were. Then on the other
side, he constantly insults those who ARE the working class.



I treat people how they deserve to be treated, little ****.

So do we. Asshole.

On 8/10/2012 1:09 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 8/10/12 12:47 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:18:15 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/10/12 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

Simple minded guy.

Get used to it. Lots of Gen X and millennial will be saying this when
the cost of those entitlements start showing up on their W-2

I am 51 and I have planned my retirement to not expect any government
handouts.


There's always the hope you'll be wiped out by more shenanigans on Wall
Street. Then you can start a new career as a Wal-Mart greeter, thus
proving the validity of the Peter Principle.

Harry, What's your plan, when the financial system crashes?
I bet your union pension is invested in Wall Street too.
Where are your personal investments?


Through several quirks of fate, I have very little of my retirement
income or assets in the "market." The defined benefit pension I have
from my nearly 40 years of union membership *is* decent and is at least
partially invested in the market, but the pension fund has diverse
holdings, and the last time I looked was worth substantially more than
it was during the Bush crash. I used to be a pension fund director and
when I was I kept a close watch because of my fiduciary liability, but I
(gladly) gave up that office when my last elected term was coming to a
close. The fund needed young blood. The fund's rules do not permit
unfunded liabilities, not even a dollar's worth.

I have a decent amount of cash at interest and in money market funds,
and I am a one-third partner in a nice, fully leased out strip shopping
mall in Connecticut. My two partners are two years older than I am, and
we are planning to sell the mall at some point in the not too distant
future. We all have adult children and young grandchildren, and all of
us are planning to leave most of what we have to them after our needs
and the needs of our spouses are met.

I'm "maxed" in the Social Security benefit.

When the financial system crashes, I'll probably be under ground. Until
then, I have the liquidity to survive and when we sell the mall, I'll
figure out the best way to keep my share of the resulting cash safe.

I don't trust Wall Street. Not any of it.



Why not stretch a condom over your head and end it now before you become
a burden on society. Your kids would be overjoyed and your "wife" would
be relieved. No more worries about your crumbling bones or forgetting to
breathe while you sleep.

In article ,
says...

On 8/10/12 1:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:18:15 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/10/12 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

Simple minded guy.

Get used to it. Lots of Gen X and millennial will be saying this when
the cost of those entitlements start showing up on their W-2

I am 51 and I have planned my retirement to not expect any government
handouts.


There's always the hope you'll be wiped out by more shenanigans on Wall
Street. Then you can start a new career as a Wal-Mart greeter, thus
proving the validity of the Peter Principle.

Harry, What's your plan, when the financial system crashes?
I bet your union pension is invested in Wall Street too.
Where are your personal investments?

What amazes me is that Harry out of one side of his mouth acts like he
is for the little man, the working class if it were. Then on the other
side, he constantly insults those who ARE the working class.



I treat people how they deserve to be treated, little ****.

You must be one fat pig to go around calling people "little" when you
know nothing of their stature.

On 8/10/12 1:39 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 8/10/12 1:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:18:15 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/10/12 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

Simple minded guy.

Get used to it. Lots of Gen X and millennial will be saying this when
the cost of those entitlements start showing up on their W-2

I am 51 and I have planned my retirement to not expect any government
handouts.


There's always the hope you'll be wiped out by more shenanigans on Wall
Street. Then you can start a new career as a Wal-Mart greeter, thus
proving the validity of the Peter Principle.

Harry, What's your plan, when the financial system crashes?
I bet your union pension is invested in Wall Street too.
Where are your personal investments?

What amazes me is that Harry out of one side of his mouth acts like he
is for the little man, the working class if it were. Then on the other
side, he constantly insults those who ARE the working class.



I treat people how they deserve to be treated, little ****.

You must be one fat pig to go around calling people "little" when you
know nothing of their stature.



I know you aren't very bright; the "little" doesn't refer to your height.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

In article m,
says...

On 8/10/2012 1:09 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 8/10/12 12:47 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:18:15 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/10/12 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

Simple minded guy.

Get used to it. Lots of Gen X and millennial will be saying this when
the cost of those entitlements start showing up on their W-2

I am 51 and I have planned my retirement to not expect any government
handouts.


There's always the hope you'll be wiped out by more shenanigans on Wall
Street. Then you can start a new career as a Wal-Mart greeter, thus
proving the validity of the Peter Principle.

Harry, What's your plan, when the financial system crashes?
I bet your union pension is invested in Wall Street too.
Where are your personal investments?


Through several quirks of fate, I have very little of my retirement
income or assets in the "market." The defined benefit pension I have
from my nearly 40 years of union membership *is* decent and is at least
partially invested in the market, but the pension fund has diverse
holdings, and the last time I looked was worth substantially more than
it was during the Bush crash. I used to be a pension fund director and
when I was I kept a close watch because of my fiduciary liability, but I
(gladly) gave up that office when my last elected term was coming to a
close. The fund needed young blood. The fund's rules do not permit
unfunded liabilities, not even a dollar's worth.

I have a decent amount of cash at interest and in money market funds,
and I am a one-third partner in a nice, fully leased out strip shopping
mall in Connecticut. My two partners are two years older than I am, and
we are planning to sell the mall at some point in the not too distant
future. We all have adult children and young grandchildren, and all of
us are planning to leave most of what we have to them after our needs
and the needs of our spouses are met.

I'm "maxed" in the Social Security benefit.

When the financial system crashes, I'll probably be under ground. Until
then, I have the liquidity to survive and when we sell the mall, I'll
figure out the best way to keep my share of the resulting cash safe.

I don't trust Wall Street. Not any of it.



Why not stretch a condom over your head and end it now before you become
a burden on society. Your kids would be overjoyed and your "wife" would
be relieved. No more worries about your crumbling bones or forgetting to
breathe while you sleep.

He can't forget, he's got a machine to breath for him!

In article , dump-on-
says...

On 8/10/12 1:39 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 8/10/12 1:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:18:15 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/10/12 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

Simple minded guy.

Get used to it. Lots of Gen X and millennial will be saying this when
the cost of those entitlements start showing up on their W-2

I am 51 and I have planned my retirement to not expect any government
handouts.


There's always the hope you'll be wiped out by more shenanigans on Wall
Street. Then you can start a new career as a Wal-Mart greeter, thus
proving the validity of the Peter Principle.

Harry, What's your plan, when the financial system crashes?
I bet your union pension is invested in Wall Street too.
Where are your personal investments?

What amazes me is that Harry out of one side of his mouth acts like he
is for the little man, the working class if it were. Then on the other
side, he constantly insults those who ARE the working class.



I treat people how they deserve to be treated, little ****.

You must be one fat pig to go around calling people "little" when you
know nothing of their stature.



I know you aren't very bright; the "little" doesn't refer to your height.

spin, spin, spin.....

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:09:03 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 8/10/12 12:47 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:18:15 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/10/12 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

Simple minded guy.

Get used to it. Lots of Gen X and millennial will be saying this when
the cost of those entitlements start showing up on their W-2

I am 51 and I have planned my retirement to not expect any government
handouts.


There's always the h
ope you'll be wiped out by more shenanigans on Wall
Street. Then you can start a new career as a Wal-Mart greeter, thus
proving the validity of the Peter Principle.

Harry, What's your plan, when the financial system crashes?
I bet your union pension is invested in Wall Street too.
Where are your personal investments?


Through several quirks of fate, I have very little of my retirement
income or assets in the "market." The defined benefit pension I have
from my nearly 40 years of union membership *is* decent and is at least
partially invested in the market, but the pension fund has diverse
holdings, and the last time I looked was worth substantially more than
it was during the Bush crash. I used to be a pension fund director and
when I was I kept a close watch because of my fiduciary liability, but I
(gladly) gave up that office when my last elected term was coming to a
close. The fund needed young blood. The fund's rules do not permit
unfunded liabilities, not even a dollar's worth.

I have a decent amount of cash at interest and in money market funds,
and I am a one-third partner in a nice, fully leased out strip shopping
mall in Connecticut. My two partners are two years older than I am, and
we are planning to sell the mall at some point in the not too distant
future. We all have adult children and young grandchildren, and all of
us are planning to leave most of what we have to them after our needs
and the needs of our spouses are met.

I'm "maxed" in the Social Security benefit.

When the financial system crashes, I'll probably be under ground. Until
then, I have the liquidity to survive and when we sell the mall, I'll
figure out the best way to keep my share of the resulting cash safe.

I don't trust Wall Street. Not any of it.

"Self praise sucks," said he.

"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...


I don't trust Wall Street. Not any of it.

----------------------------------------------------------

This may sound harsh, but there was a time when Wall Street was only
for those who could afford to lose their investments.

When programs like 401K plans came along and suddenly everyone had the
opportunity to invest, the **** hit the fan.
Instead of calculated risk investments, they became "retirement
plans".

I have never, ever considered Wall Street investments, either
privately invested or via a 401K type plan ... a retirement fund or
plan.

In fact, I have never participated in a 401K plan period, even when I
had a company that offered one with company contributions.