On 8/10/12 10:52 AM, Califbill wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 11:07:24 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 8/9/12 9:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:08:04 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

It's a bit annoying that the propane dealers around here don't post
their prices on their web sites. I don't mind paying the local
"convenience" street price for filling up a small tank for an outdoor
grill, but I'd sure like to know what the 20 or so "local" delivery
suppliers are charging per gallon to fill our 500-gallon tank without
having to call each one of them.

There should be a "Propane Delivery Price" app!

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Why not create a web site similar to what cruisers have been doing
with diesel fuel prices?

https://www.waterwayguide.com/fuel-pricing?area=cbdb


That would be an interesting thing to do, but then you'd have to recruit
a huge number of "reporters," and a homeowner buying a tankful of
propane usually does not happen more than two or three times a year. As
an example, we have a gas furnace, hot water heater, rangetop,
fireplace, generator, et cetera, and we've never used more than 350
gallons of propane in a calendar year. Typically, the truck comes by for
a partial fill-up in October and then another partial fill-up in March
so that on those two dates, we actually have about 400 gallons of LP in
the tank. Obviously, usage varies according to appliances and
geography/weather. Plus, propane prices vary widely from dealer to
dealer in the same market, depending upon when they bought their
supplies and other factors.

I was intrigued by this because a neighbor bought a near tankful of gas
for about 25 cent less a gallon than I paid. His supplier was helpful on
the phone and told me the wide variance is common among all dealers
during the year, that at the next fill-up, his price could be higher
than my dealer's, and that prices typically changed weekly.

So, what is needed is not reportage of what Joe paid last week in nearby
Dunkirk, MD, for example, but what XYZ Propane is charging for delivered
LP *today* and what his 10 nearby competitors are charging *today*, so a
call can be made and a delivery order placed for the lowest-priced
supplier at a given moment.

I'm going to contact my local state official to see if there is any
interest in requiring propane dealers to post their delivered prices
daily on their websites. They all seem to have decent websites. That
way, it would be easy to check individually or even write a spider that
would gather the prices on a webpage as you described.

Before you go thru a rigmarole - the company that owns the tank is the
only company that can fill
it. Of course, if you personally own the tank and it meets the
requirements of the other companies,
you can deal with anyone. Otherwise, if you decide to switch companies,
be prepared to switch tanks.
My daughter is going thru this right now. She'll probably have two tanks
at her house while waiting
for the current tank to empty.

When you stick to decent posts, you shouldn't deserve to be shunned.
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The company has to pay you for the contents when they remove the tank,
according to my buddy who just had his removed at his Tahoe cabin. Was
****ed about the $5/gal delivered price.



A company I might have bought a new tank from if I hadn't gotten a good
deal buying the old tank from the original gas company would have
emptied the original tank, removed it, put it on the curb for the
original company, installed a new tank, put my quantity of LP gas back
in it, et cetera, all for no more than the purchase price and
installation of the new tank.

There's no reason to deal with companies unfriendly to consumers or
companies that overcharge. I needed a new 15' USB A/B cable so I checked
it out at Office Depot. $32.00. Insanity. The same cable through Amazon
was $7.00. I would have paid $10 at Office Depot for convenience of
"instant" delivery into my hand, but more than four times as much? ****
Office Depot. Oh, wait...isn't that a Bain Capital funded company? That
explains the overcharging!

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