On 7/3/12 4:04 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:30:45 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...

WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?

Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.


I did volonteer, so **** off...

To do what? What branch? For how long?

Did they accept you and why?



He surely was not accepted...even with military standards at their
lowest levels.

"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 7/3/12 4:04 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:30:45 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint
Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has
“18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to
the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq
war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command.
That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent
public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has
continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces
are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account
for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides
is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months
at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at
this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three,
four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was
something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United
States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never
ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of
their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return
home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...

WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?

Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.


I did volonteer, so **** off...

To do what? What branch? For how long?

Did they accept you and why?



He surely was not accepted...even with military standards at their
lowest levels.
-----------------------------------------
Lots were rejected. When I went for my draft physical, flat feet got a
couple, bad eyesight got a few. Coworker was rejected after he got to
training as he was over height. If you had larger than size 15 shoe, you
were out. they do not have the supplies to clothe over and undersize
people, etc.

On 7/3/12 9:21 PM, Califbill wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 7/3/12 4:04 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:30:45 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint
Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military
has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due
to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq
war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health
Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent
public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has
continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S.
forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only
account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to
private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military
suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12
months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at
this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone
three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from
the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was
something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United
States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have
investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration
never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of
their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return
home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...

WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?

Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.


I did volonteer, so **** off...

To do what? What branch? For how long?

Did they accept you and why?



He surely was not accepted...even with military standards at their
lowest levels.
-----------------------------------------
Lots were rejected. When I went for my draft physical, flat feet got a
couple, bad eyesight got a few. Coworker was rejected after he got to
training as he was over height. If you had larger than size 15 shoe,
you were out. they do not have the supplies to clothe over and
undersize people, etc.


Or om justsnot's case, underbrained.

"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 7/3/12 9:21 PM, Califbill wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 7/3/12 4:04 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:30:45 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 8:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint
Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military
has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due
to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq
war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health
Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent
public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has
continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S.
forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only
account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to
private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military
suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12
months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at
this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone
three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from
the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was
something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United
States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have
investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration
never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of
their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return
home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.

I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...

WTF were you doing at the time, sucking your thumb? Wiping your poop
all over your crib and the walls?

Did you volunteer when you were of age? If not, STFU.


I did volonteer, so **** off...

To do what? What branch? For how long?

Did they accept you and why?



He surely was not accepted...even with military standards at their
lowest levels.
-----------------------------------------
Lots were rejected. When I went for my draft physical, flat feet got a
couple, bad eyesight got a few. Coworker was rejected after he got to
training as he was over height. If you had larger than size 15 shoe,
you were out. they do not have the supplies to clothe over and
undersize people, etc.


Or om justsnot's case, underbrained.
------------------------------------------------------
could also describe your pscyh profile.

On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 11:51:46 -0700, jps wrote:


Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.

Wonder why 'Bama just stays and stays?

On 7/6/2012 4:38 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 11:51:46 -0700, jps wrote:


Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.

Wonder why 'Bama just stays and stays?

I think George had a removal strategy for Iraq all mapped out. Bama is
going to have to figger out Afghanistan on his own.