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jps July 2nd 12 07:51 PM

America, the beautiful...
 

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.

Oscar July 2nd 12 08:00 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/2012 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.


Wouldn't you like take this opportunity to thank a vet for his service?
Don't be bashful. Ill wait


X ` Man July 2nd 12 08:03 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.


Oscar July 2nd 12 08:11 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.


JustWait[_2_] July 2nd 12 08:27 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/2012 3:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.


.... and turned every other country over there against us...


Canuck57[_9_] July 2nd 12 09:24 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 02/07/2012 1:00 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.


Wouldn't you like take this opportunity to thank a vet for his service?
Don't be bashful. Ill wait


I do. Takes courage to join a system to fight for coutnry when you know
they will let you down in the end.


--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing but debt and discontentment.



Canuck57[_9_] July 2nd 12 09:25 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.


I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.


--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing but debt and discontentment.



X ` Man[_3_] July 2nd 12 09:32 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/12 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.


Your "suspicions" won't lead to you to any conclusions that are valid.

I wasn't drafted. My draft board knew of my whereabouts in this country.
Therefore, I was not a draft dodger.

I know you are not too bright, but the reality is that only a small
percentage of age-eligible males was "drafted" during the years I could
have been drafted.

Oscar July 2nd 12 10:16 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/2012 4:32 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.


Your "suspicions" won't lead to you to any conclusions that are valid.

I wasn't drafted. My draft board knew of my whereabouts in this country.
Therefore, I was not a draft dodger.

I know you are not too bright, but the reality is that only a small
percentage of age-eligible males was "drafted" during the years I could
have been drafted.


The way you tell it there was a very small window of time you were draft
eligible. I doubt if they they thought they could use you for anything
anyway.


JustWait[_2_] July 2nd 12 10:36 PM

America, the beautiful...
 
On 7/2/2012 4:25 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2012 1:11 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/2/2012 3:03 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:51 PM, jps wrote:

Navy Admiral Mike Mullen (ret.), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, told an audience in Aspen this weekend that military has “18
vets a day who are killing themselves in the United States” due to the
incomprehensible stresses of military life, which he said are
compounded by a public that is increasingly disconnected from the
ongoing wars.

Military suicides rose dramatically after the start of the Iraq war,
according to a recent study by the Army’s Public Health Command. That
same study found that in 2008, 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers voluntarily
submitted to a mental health evaluation, “implying a prevalent public
health problem.” Since then, the military’s suicide rate has continued
to climb, hitting a 10-year high in 2012, even though U.S. forces are
almost entirely withdrawn from Iraq.

As bad as that sounds, it gets worse: Those figures only account for
active duty soldiers, and not soldiers who have returned to private
life. If Mullen is correct, then the problem of military suicides is
even worse than previously known.

“If I’m a 5-year-old boy or girl in the family of one of these
deploying units for the army whose average deployment was 12 months at
a time, and my dad or mom – but mostly my dad – has deployed at this
pace, I’m now 15 or 16 years old, and my dad has been gone three, four
or five times,” Mullen explained during an appearance at the Aspen
Ideas Festival last weekend. “And my whole conscious life, from the
time when I was 5 and I started to figure out that there was something
out there, my whole conscious life has been at war. The United States
has never, never experienced that before. And we see incredible
stresses on families.”



War provides an excellent return for the 1% who have investments in
military hardware, not so much for the rest of us.



The negative residue emanating from the Bush Administration never ends.
I think our military forces in Iraq and now Afghanistan are wasting
their lives, but I feel badly for their sacrifices and those of their
families. We don't take care of them properly upon their return home,
and that may be the ultimate tragedy.

Can't you morons take responsibility for your own ****. Your boy
escalated Afghanastan.


I suspect X-Man was a coward draft dodger.



Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner...



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